Bills trade for Tarvaris Jackson

[GingerP]

I guess both Young and Thigpen are gone.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000055085/article/tarvaris-jackson-to-be-traded-to-buffalo-bills?module=HP11_headline_stack

No word on Compensation yet.

[IAG]

Good fit with Chan.

[Raptor]

Thank God! I no longer have to watch the complete and utter incompetence of V.Young and T.Thigpen

Cut there asses now

[ServoBillieves]

Awesome.

[GingerP]

Would have to think his contract will be altered. He has a $4M salary this year and is a free agent in 2013. He reportedly was willing to talk about the contract as part of a trade. I wonder if they extend him multiple years as primary backup.

[kingJofNYC]

Thank God! I no longer have to watch the complete and utter incompetence of V.Young and T.Thigpen

Cut there asses now
Wait until you see the incompetence of Tjack.

[Skooby]

I guess both Young and Thigpen are gone.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000055085/article/tarvaris-jackson-to-be-traded-to-buffalo-bills?module=HP11_headline_stack

No word on Compensation yet.

We have a back-up, I repeat we have a back-up.

[stuckincincy]

Would have to think his contract will be altered. He has a $4M salary this year and is a free agent in 2013. He reportedly was willing to talk about the contract as part of a trade. I wonder if they extend him multiple years as primary backup.

Heh - what are we paying Fitz? Wouldn't that rock the house if Jackson beats him out at some point?

[GingerP]

Florio is reporting it isn't done yet, as they are talking about the contract. It sounds like it will get done soon, once a new contract is worked out.

[GingerP]

Heh - what are we paying Fitz? Wouldn't that rock the house if Jackson beats him out at some point?

Jackson isn't a guy who is a starter for anyone at this point. He is 29 years old and has enough experience that it is pretty clear what he is. If he starts, it will be because he is holding the fort when Fitzpatrick got hurt or flopped. He isn't a solution, he is a backup.

[Raptor]

Wait until you see the incompetence of Tjack.


Still better than Young and Thigpen

[Slim]

DB is gonna be so happy when he sees this.

[stuckincincy]

Jackson isn't a guy who is a starter for anyone at this point. He is 29 years old and has enough experience that it is pretty clear what he is. If he starts, it will be because he is holding the fort when Fitzpatrick got hurt or flopped. He isn't a solution, he is a backup.

Well - it's not out of the realm of thought that other clubs might feel the same about Fitz.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

It means that Thigpen is gone, and probably young too: Fitz, Jackson, and Smith, not a bad rotation at qb.

[Jaybird]

He's a good backup.. but we already have one of those in Fitz

[Generalissimus Gibby]

He's a good backup.. but we already have one of those in Fitz

could be a sign that they are just not confident with Fitzy's play and Chan is putting him on notice in hopes that it will motivate him to step up his game.

[JoeMama]

Eh, this feels like a lateral move rather than an upward move.

Jackson has been a career-long disappointment.

If the goal is to supplant Young/Thigpen, what has Jackson done to really set himself apart?

They're all underachievers. Except we have to give something up to acquire Jackson.

And it damn well better be nickels and dimes.

[Meathead]

they must really have completely lost all confidence in thigpen. thigpen has looked brutal in the practice games but as a starter jackson is only slightly superior stat wise to thigpen. i wonder what they see in jackson that made them spend a draft pick over just keeping thigpen or young and rolling the dice on getting jackson (or somebody else) free in later cuts. yeah getting a qb another week in practice reps has value, but alone not enough to send a pick, so it had to be something pretty bad

[SeatownBillsFan21]

Haha I was just tell my coworker how we need to trade for him as our starter not 10 minutes later I get the alert. I know what Jackson is but it's better than VY IMO so I'm sure I'll hear it from Seahawks nation in the days to come. At least they know the QB position is broken.

[Scumbag College]

Maybe the seahags want one of the Bills backup Dlinemen in the deal. Or Terrance McGee. Or Johnny White.

[kingJofNYC]

Still better than Young and Thigpen
No he's not, stop deluding yourself. Jackson is equal or worse, not better.

They're all equally bad, lateral move if you ask me.

[Michael82]

Thank God! I no longer have to watch the complete and utter incompetence of V.Young and T.Thigpen

Cut there asses now

Exactly! He can't be any worse than those two! Cut them both!

[Meathead]

i wonder if its possible they cut brad smith and keep one of young/thigpen?

that would give them a comparable wc qb to smith but actually able to start a game at qb. that would give them a little more insurance should young or thigpen stay and continue to stink it up

[YardRat]

Maybe the seahags want one of the Bills backup Dlinemen in the deal. Or Terrance McGee. Or Johnny White.

Or a WR...they released Owens today.

[stuckincincy]

No he's not, stop deluding yourself. Jackson is equal or worse, not better.

They're all equally bad, lateral move if you ask me.

Perhaps. There are always journeyman qbs who help out...AJ Feely, Steve Beuerlein, Anthony Wright, Gus Ferrotte, many others. Varying degrees of success, for sure. But a peripatetic qb with several years of steady NFL qb employment isn't a bad thing.

[Night Train]

He threw for over 3000 yards and went 7-7 as a starter last year. How is this bad ?

[Meathead]

But a peripatetic qb with several years of steady NFL qb employment isn't a bad thing.

i had no idea he lost the use of his legs

[kingJofNYC]

One good really thing about this is that front office realizes they have nothing at QB, Fitz being the exception. Needs to be addressed in the draft, early in the draft. Not some 7th round camp fodder.

[stuckincincy]

One good really thing about this is that front office realizes they have nothing at QB, Fitz being the exception. Needs to be addressed in the draft, early in the draft. Not some 7th round camp fodder.

Yes - you make a good point.

[Skooby]

Contract is a sticky point, so the thread title is inaccurate.

[madness]

Goodbye Thigpen AND B. Smith? Can we afford to cut Smith dollar wise? It seems he had yet to show anything, especially at QB.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

Why?! Why, at this point in the preseason less than two weeks before the start of the regular season does this team sign yet another washed up, mediocre journeyman quarterback who, on top of all that, doesn't know the system? Do they expect him to learn it in two weeks?

This move is ridiculously stupid. Jackson is no franchise quarterback.

[Mr. Miyagi]

I don't understand why we continue to keep Brad Smith. Maybe we can trade him off to somebody else. He's not a good QB, sucks as a returner, below average WR, and if we have TJax or Young, we don't need Smith to run the wildcat. So what are we keeping him for?

[Skooby]

Why?! Why, at this point in the preseason less than two weeks before the start of the regular season does this team sign yet another washed up, mediocre journeyman quarterback who, on top of all that, doesn't know the system? Do they expect him to learn it in two weeks?

This move is ridiculously stupid. Jackson is no franchise quarterback.

Fitz goes down & this season is over, all 3 of our back-up QB's should be cut with VY given the benefit of the doubt.

[YardRat]

Still rather have a young guy with decent skills and a brain to groom for a season or two while we wait for a QB to become available.

[stuckincincy]

Why?! Why, at this point in the preseason less than two weeks before the start of the regular season does this team sign yet another washed up, mediocre journeyman quarterback who, on top of all that, doesn't know the system? Do they expect him to learn it in two weeks?

This move is ridiculously stupid. Jackson is no franchise quarterback.

So - where do the Bills get that franchise QB? Who is handing them out, offering them up for trade? Tell us.

[Albany,n.y.]

I don't understand why we continue to keep Brad Smith. Maybe we can trade him off to somebody else. He's not a good QB, sucks as a returner, below average WR, and if we have TJax or Young, we don't need Smith to run the wildcat. So what are we keeping him for?

Because he might be our #2 receiver by mid-season. With the exception of Stevie, ALL the Bills receivers are below average.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

So - where do the Bills get that franchise QB? Who is handing them out, offering them up for trade? Tell us. You either build them like New England built Brady, or you purposely tank to get them when they come up in the draft, like Indianapolis did for Luck. You don't pick them up from other teams-- they dump them for a reason.

[Philagape]

Jackson is no franchise quarterback.

He's the new backup, Johnny. Backup.

[gebobs]

It means that Thigpen is gone, and probably young too: Fitz, Jackson, and Smith, not a bad rotation at qb.
Good rotation? Surely, you jest. We have two backups and a ****up.

[gebobs]

Because he might be our #2 receiver by mid-season. With the exception of Stevie, ALL the Bills receivers are below average.
LOL...they could pick up any number of free agents that would be better than Smith.

[YardRat]

I don't understand why we continue to keep Brad Smith. Maybe we can trade him off to somebody else. He's not a good QB, sucks as a returner, below average WR, and if we have TJax or Young, we don't need Smith to run the wildcat. So what are we keeping him for?

Would you prefer to cut both Thigpen and Smith and go with a rotation of Fitz/Jackson/Young? Just asking...

[DraftBoy]

You're getting a QB coming off his best year yet, who is a close to perfect fit for our system. He's also tough as nails and a great leader/locker room guy. Ideal spot starter who MAYBE develops some. He's always had off the charts physical ability, just never had it mentally. I was a huge fan of his coming out of school, and Minny screwed the pooch by putting him out there his rookie year. Showed some solid signs of life last year in Seattle.

[Skooby]

You're getting a QB coming off his best year yet, who is a close to perfect fit for our system. He's also tough as nails and a great leader/locker room guy. Ideal spot starter who MAYBE develops some. He's always had off the charts physical ability, just never had it mentally. I was a huge fan of his coming out of school, and Minny screwed the pooch by putting him out there his rookie year. Showed some solid signs of life last year in Seattle.

I smell a new-jersey purchase.

[DraftBoy]

I smell a new-jersey purchase.

I dont buy jerseys, waste of money imo.

[CoolBreeze]

I believe the love fest for Jackson started 2 years ago. The game when Moats knocked out Favre. Remember who came in and lit the place up? Travaris Jackson....
I'm sure Chan hasn't forgot that.

[stuckincincy]

You're getting a QB coming off his best year yet, who is a close to perfect fit for our system. He's also tough as nails and a great leader/locker room guy. Ideal spot starter who MAYBE develops some. He's always had off the charts physical ability, just never had it mentally. I was a huge fan of his coming out of school, and Minny screwed the pooch by putting him out there his rookie year. Showed some solid signs of life last year in Seattle.

Saw him last season, playing CIN when that club was riding the crest of their wave. He only hit 50% or so, and was a bit hobbled - couldn't run down field.

My impression - he played a decent, starting qb job. He's a "gamer."

[Skooby]

I dont buy jerseys, waste of money imo.

Either way, you're a fan.

[DraftBoy]

Saw him last season, playing CIN when that club was riding the crest of their wave. He only hit 50% or so, and was a bit hobbled - couldn't run down field.

My impression - he played a decent, starting qb job. He's a "gamer."

Per the scouting report I posted in another thread, he was injured almost all of last season but played through it. The Seahawks guy who wrote the report for BBD said he's tough as nails and refuses to quit. Teammates love him.

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Either way, you're a fan.

That I am.

[THRILLHO]

Good fit with Chan.

Same thing we said about Thigpen. Same thing we said about Vince Young.

I'm not saying its a bad move, if he can make this team better then lets do it.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

He's the new backup, Johnny. Backup. And an unnecessary one at this stage of the game. Too good for third string, and no better than Young in the battle for second. It'd be one thing if they stumbled upon a major prospect with long-term starter potential, but that hasn't happened here since Brian Brohm. The last quarterback to have begun his career here was Levi Brown a couple years ago, and they kicked him to the curb. Just like they did with Corp and Tanney this offseason. This team has too little patience when it comes to raw quarterback talent, and too much of a googly eye for washed-up journeymen. So sure, if they want the next Doug Flutie who'll show up for a couple years and then disappear, fine. But they already have that guy in Vince Young. Jackson adds nothing to this roster that they don't already have.

[EDS]

Jackson isn't a guy who is a starter for anyone at this point. He is 29 years old and has enough experience that it is pretty clear what he is. If he starts, it will be because he is holding the fort when Fitzpatrick got hurt or flopped. He isn't a solution, he is a backup.

You could use those exact words to describe Fitzpatrick.

[coastal]

8-8 is becoming a pipe dream.

[BertSquirtgum]

i wonder if its possible they cut brad smith and keep one of young/thigpen?

that would give them a comparable wc qb to smith but actually able to start a game at qb. that would give them a little more insurance should young or thigpen stay and continue to stink it up

I hope so, Brad Smith is a waste.

[BertSquirtgum]

Chan must have finally realized he ****ed himself in the ass by placing his faith on a bum like Fitzpatrick.

[Skooby]

Chan must have finally realized he ****ed himself in the ass by placing his faith on a bum like Fitzpatrick.

You really think that T-Jax is being brought in now to replace Fitz or his back-ups? I just want to be clear so your opinion can be on record right now one way or the other.

You might also bring up something I haven't fully thought of yet about this, so I'm intrigued to see how you support the point. I have a feeling it'll be a simple sentence with a swear word or two & a blunt stance.

[BertSquirtgum]

No, but when Fitz blows for the first five weeks, I don't think they're comfortable putting Vince in so they traded for someone who is better than Fitzputrid.

[Skooby]

No, but when Fitz blows for the first five weeks, I don't think they're comfortable putting Vince in so they traded for someone who is better than Fitzputrid.

So how did you draw the conclusion that Chan self-sodomized by keeping Fitz & improving the QB back-ups ?

Fitz + a better backup - 1 or 2 previous bad backups = Chad's self-sodimization ? Is that the logical formulation you've arrived at to present to the group ?

[Meathead]

lets get it out of the way right now

fitzlickers vs jacklovers

[Bill Cody]

No truth VY and TJ will play a game of "scrabble" to decide who stays

[Skooby]

No truth VY and TJ will play a game of "scrabble" to decide who stays

It was on the table but it was determined that the game would end up in a incomplete tie.

[BertSquirtgum]

So how did you draw the conclusion that Chan self-sodomized by keeping Fitz & improving the QB back-ups ?

Fitz + a better backup - 1 or 2 previous bad backups = Chad's self-sodimization ? Is that the logical formulation you've arrived at to present to the group ?

Because he knows he is going to have to replace Stinkspatrick so he traded for somebody who will win games for him. Don't forget to wear your helmet tomorrow.

[Skooby]

Because he knows he is going to have to replace Stinkspatrick so he traded for somebody who will win games for him. Don't forget to wear your helmet tomorrow.

So T-Jax is replacing Fitz then right?? It that what you're saying? It's not clear & you just told me that T-Jax is not replacing Fitz.

BTW- Thanks for the helmet warning, I always forget it.

[BertSquirtgum]

He will be getting replaced by week 5, if not sooner. You think this guy is going to walk on the team and magically know the offense? Come on man.

[SquishDaFish]

Man i cant wait for reg season. im tired of seeing people ***** and cry about preseason results and stuff they know nothing about

[TacklingDummy]

I guess both Young and Thigpen are gone.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000055085/article/tarvaris-jackson-to-be-traded-to-buffalo-bills?module=HP11_headline_stack

No word on Compensation yet.

One teams garbage is another teams treasure.

Doesn't solve the fact that our starting QB blows.

[jamze132]

One teams garbage is another teams treasure.

Doesn't solve the fact that our starting QB blows.

Doesn't solve the fact that our back up QBs blow either. lol

[GingerP]

Just reported as a done deal by Albert Breer. Says contract re-done and Jackson can make "up to $3M this year". Probably needs to hit some incentives to earn that.

No word yet on the compensation to Seattle.

[PTI]

Think I have said many times out here Jackson is better than Fitz and the Bills should trade for him. Finally they listened. At least for this year, he will be playing later at some point when Fitz sucks it up again. No long term answer, but better than Fitz, it is obvious.

[Luisito23]

We have a back-up, I repeat we have a back-up.

Yes, and his name is Ryan Fitzpatrick.
All we did was just trade for another backup with a different name.