Bills players kept and cut - Consolidated thread

[Slim]

Per Adam Schefter

[T-Long]

I knew it!

[Pinkerton Security]

A tiny bit surprising, but not really

[SquishDaFish]

<s>@</s>AdamSchefter (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter) Buffalo released DL Dwan Edwards.

[Slim]

I could see the Colts of jets bringing him in.

[ublinkwescore]

he will be a patriot.

[GingerP]

He made too much for a backup. Wonder if they offered him a paycut. Would think.

[X-Era]

Too much money for too little production.

But, I hope the Bills are very careful about how many vets they cut. We need experienced backups.

[kingJofNYC]

Spencer Johnson is awful, not sure what they see in him.

[Slim]

Spencer Johnson is awful, not sure what they see in him.

Really? I think Spencer is a pretty good third DT in a 4-3. He'll get blown up sometimes, but he has a knack for being disruptive.

[ServoBillieves]

Spencer Johnson is awful, not sure what they see in him.

Dwan Edwards cut... 3 other DT's on the roster... yet Spencher Johnson sucks... Relevance is just gushing right here.

[T-Long]

Not sure what you guys are watching, but I think Spencer Johnson is a great DL for this team.

[X-Era]

Not sure what you guys are watching, but I think Spencer Johnson is a great DL for this team.
Any player who has played in real games and isn't a total POS has value to a young team.

Injuries happen and you better have backups that can play at least solid.

[OpIv37]

The only reason this surprises me a little is because of the Troup injury situation. But, Spencer Johnson is at least equal to Edwards, and cheaper I believe.

[Slim]

The only reason this surprises me a little is because of the Troup injury situation. But, Spencer Johnson is at least equal to Edwards, and cheaper I believe.

Dwan 3.8 million. Spencer is 3 million I believe.

[Scumbag College]

D. Edwards was an expensive FA pickup for the Bills brought in to be a 3-4 DE. With the change back to the 4-3 and with all the money already tied up in the DL this isn't a shocker. I bet he gets picked up soon, still looks pretty good out there as a rotational player.

[X-Era]

4 mill in cap room back plus 2.5 mill or so from Merriman. That's so far.

http://nyjetscap.com/Bills/bills2013.php

[Skooby]

Ralph's cheap.

[Scumbag College]

Joselio Hanson cut by the Eagles...I think he's a good nickel or dime CB at an obvious position of need for the Bills.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/19996179/eagles-cuts-no-qbs-released-in-first-wave-stay-tuned

Bring him in!

[Ed]

Way back when they first decided to switch to the 4-3 I assumed Edwards was a goner for sure, but I thought he played ok and provided some solid depth so I'm a little surprised. We've talked a lot about having great DL depth this year, but that was assuming Edwards and Merriman would be decent backup rotation guys and now they're both gone.

I hope they're going to use the extra cap space for extensions for Byrd and Levitre.

[T-Long]

I hope they're going to use the extra cap space for extensions for Byrd and Levitre.
Exactly.

[kingJofNYC]

My beef with Spencer Johnson is the run game, can't hold his own in that area. It's always good to have a guy on the roster who can plug up the run, especially when we've been terrible at stopping the running game in recent years.

[Ed]

My beef with Spencer Johnson is the run game, can't hold his own in that area. It's always good to have a guy on the roster who can plug up the run, especially when we've been terrible at stopping the running game in recent years.
I actually think he's been one of our better run defenders this preseason. He struggled last year because they had him lining up as a 3-4 OLB. That was just stupid. He's finally back in a much more natural position.

[X-Era]

My beef with Spencer Johnson is the run game, can't hold his own in that area. It's always good to have a guy on the roster who can plug up the run, especially when we've been terrible at stopping the running game in recent years.My problem is that he's more proven and a better option than anyone else currently on the roster as a potential backup.

[Slim]

My problem is that he's more proven and a better option than anyone else currently on the roster as a potential backup.

We already have an expensive/versitile backup with Spencer. I'd rather roll the dice with Heard, Troup (when/if he gets better), or Gilbert as the 4th DT.

[SquishDaFish]

Jessi Carder ‏<s>@</s>Jessi_Carder (https://twitter.com/Jessi_Carder) Just wanted to thank <s>#</s>BillsMafia (https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23BillsMafia) for all the love and support! Our time in buffalo has come to an end! "the lord works is mysterious ways"

[mikemac2001]

Good cut makes sense not really surprised

[kingJofNYC]

not surprised, looked useless out there.

[mikemac2001]

Ah thats kind of a bummer maybe we can bring him back for ps

[HAMMER]

But he has a cool name and is a perfect fit in Buffalo.

[mikemac2001]

haha thats why i am bummed i loved the name but we have a lot of white lb's

[Slim]

Great candidate for the PS.

[ServoBillieves]

Practice Squad. Great story, but apparently McKillop gets the backup/ST position.

If he's not a Bill, he'll get picked up pretty quick.

[DBrown77]

He looked small out there...and lost. That being said do we typically cut current year draft picks? especially 5th rounders?

[The King]

Tackled way too high.

[Ed]

Kind of surprised. I can't remember the last time we cut a draft pick that went higher than the 7th round. I guess that speaks to our depth though, and we did have extra picks this year. I think he'll end up on the practice squad. McKillop deserved the spot. He looked better.

[Mr. Pink]

Didn't fit anymore. He's a 3-4 DE not a 4-3 DE.

Not a shock.

[BertSquirtgum]

Spencer Johnson was terrible as a linebacker/defensive end as a defensive tackle in 4-3 he's decent. Definitely a better fit than dwan edwards.

[SquishDaFish]

Tank Carder ‏<s>@</s>tankcarder (https://twitter.com/tankcarder) Preciate everything the Bills have done for me thus far, wasn't the right fit, best of luck to the team and the organization <s>#</s>godbless (https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23godbless)

[Buffalogic]

Alphonso Smith cut too...I bet Miami takes a run at both of them

[more cowbell]

best of luck to him

[Bulldog]

Class act. Hope they can sign him to the practice squad. If not, good luck elsewhere.

[SquishDaFish]

Jeff Russo ‏<s>@</s>JeffRussoWKBW (https://twitter.com/JeffRussoWKBW) League source <s>#</s>Bills (https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23Bills) WR Marcus Easley among teams cuts

[Slim]

Interested to see if he's added to the PS.

[Ed]

Well I guess we'll find out soon. I really hope the Jets don't grab him.

[The King]

There's that.

[Skooby]

We're cutting all the fat, which I like.

[jamze132]

Hmmm.....

[Bangarang]

Not surprised.

[jamze132]

Spencer Johnson is awful, not sure what they see in him.

Not sure why you think that?

[SABURZFAN]

they just put acehole on suicide watch. he was ALLLLLLLLLL over Easley's nutsack. it damn near knocked his tonsils out too.

[SABURZFAN]

a lot of people in here were on this guys nutsack too.

[YardRat]

Tank Carder ‏<s>@</s>tankcarder (https://twitter.com/tankcarder) Preciate everything the Bills have done for me thus far, wasn't the right fit, best of luck to the team and the organization <s>#</s>godbless (https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23godbless)

Doesn't sound like he'd come back, if offered.

[YardRat]

Should be on PS if nobody else bites on him for a regular spot.

[Skooby]

they just put acehole on suicide watch. he was ALLLLLLLLLL over Easley's nutsack. it damn near knocked his tonsils out too.

Sorta of like your Mom on my jock, she even likes my drip.

[SABURZFAN]

We're cutting all the fat, which I like.


we cut your mom too? :shocked:

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Sorta of like your Mom on my jock, she even likes my drip.


i didn't know she turned lesbian.

[YardRat]

Funny how these things roll. With the switch to 43, Edwards was immediately annointed the poster boy for victims of the scheme. Then he played decently in OTA's and TC, and looked like he may be a lock as a back-up. Then the axe falls.

[SquishDaFish]

Damond Talbot ‏<s>@</s>drocksthaparty (https://twitter.com/drocksthaparty) Breaking news; Scott McKillop has been cut by bills

[GingerP]

Is Easley PS eligible? I don't think he is. I don't think you can be on a PS after having a year of NFL service. He doesn't have many active games, but the I/R time gave him a year of service.

[Ed]

Interesting. I figured McKillop was the reason they cut Carder. Looks like Morrison will be safe.

[Skooby]

McKilled.

[SquishDaFish]

Yes report came out that he is eligible

[Skooby]

i didn't know she turned lesbian.

Your sister said you knew about them.

[Ed]

Is Easley PS eligible? I don't think he is. I don't think you can be on a PS after having a year of NFL service. He doesn't have many active games, but the I/R time gave him a year of service.
No he's still eligible. You have to be active for 9 games in one season to lose eligibility and he's never been active for any since he spent both seasons on IR.

[better days]

Any player who has played in real games and isn't a total POS has value to a young team.

Injuries happen and you better have backups that can play at least solid.

They must like the potential of Moore.

[more cowbell]

Morrison can play MLB and OLB and is a solid backup...I'm fine with this move.

[more cowbell]

Wont be sad to see him go. Sick and tired of hearing about his "Potential" and the guy has never played in a regular season game in his life.

[Jersey1031]

He is most certainly PS eligible. Im disappointed but not surprised. Too little, too late... He's worth the shot, if given the chance, he will pay dividends. He's a got a great story and I'd hate to lose him to waivers.

*Disclaimer - I'm a UConn grad which means I'm a homer, but I've also seen every snap and acrobatic catch he's made.*

[better days]

I hope this is not true, but if it is I hope the Bills can get him on the PS. I will be surprised if a team like the Jets or Seahawks don't pick him up.

[YardRat]

Leaves a spot open for White...unfortunately.

[more cowbell]

I hope this is not true, but if it is I hope the Bills can get him on the PS. I will be surprised if a team like the Jets or Seahawks don't pick him up.

Why would they pick him up? What has this guy ever done, ever except get hurt?

[Ed]

Leaves a spot open for White...unfortunately.
I don't know maybe they only go with 6 LB's to make room at another position like Thigpen or Potter. I'd be ok with Barnett, Sheppard, Moats, Morrison, Bradham, and Scott. Plus maybe Carder to the PS. Considering how much our D will line up in nickel, I don't really see a need for 7 LB's.

[YardRat]

I don't know maybe they only go with 6 LB's to make room at another position like Thigpen or Potter. I'd be ok with Barnett, Sheppard, Moats, Morrison, Bradham, and Scott. Plus maybe Carder to the PS. Considering how much our D will line up in nickel, I don't really see a need for 7 LB's.

Could be. Can't argue that.

[SquishDaFish]

Tim Graham ‏<s>@</s>ByTimGraham (https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham) Team source: Bills keep 5 WRs, counting Brad Smith. Gone: Hagan, Martin, Roosevelt, Aiken, Easley.

[Ed]

Wow, Hagan is gone too. That sucks. So it looks like we're definitely keeping Thigpen. What a waste.

[Mr. Pink]

Shocked.

I figured they'd keep 5 WRs + Brad Smith.

[better days]

Wont be sad to see him go. Sick and tired of hearing about his "Potential" and the guy has never played in a regular season game in his life.

Well, this post is just STUPID. There is no question Easley has shown he has potential. When that potential does come to fruition, I would like to see him do it on the Bills.

[MikeInRoch]

This is a mistake. They should cut Brad and keep one of the others.

Or maybe they are going to make a move for one of the cut WRs from the Pats...

[Ed]

This is a mistake. They should cut Brad and keep one of the others.

Or maybe they are going to make a move for one of the cut WRs from the Pats...
That's a good point. They could have their eye on someone else, and maybe they're pretty confident that Easley will clear waivers. I hope they have some kind of plan because I'm not really liking our WR depth right now. I guess they could always call these guys back up if someone goes on IR. It's not like all these guys are going to get picked up by someone else.

[better days]

What are they down to now? About 44 players? Maybe they are looking to pick up other teams cast offs & need the roster space.

[SquishDaFish]

Joe Buscaglia ‏<s>@</s>JoeB_WGR (https://twitter.com/JoeB_WGR) A lot of money to keep 3 backup QBs RT <s>@</s>ByTimGraham (https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham) Source also tells Buffalo News: Bills will keep Tyler Thigpen and Tarvaris Jackson.

[YardRat]

Mistake not keeping Hagan, IMO.

[YardRat]

Kinda figured that after the events of the past week.

[Bangarang]

They probably want to give TJ a few more weeks with the play book before they get rid of Thigpen.

[better days]

Joe Buscaglia ‏<s>@</s>JoeB_WGR (https://twitter.com/JoeB_WGR) A lot of money to keep 3 backup QBs RT <s>@</s>ByTimGraham (https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham) Source also tells Buffalo News: Bills will keep Tyler Thigpen and Tarvaris Jackson.

WHY???!!!!!! It makes no sense whatsoever to keep Thigpen. Thigpen must have pictures of Budy in a gay club dressed in leathers dancing away like that guy on the Soprannos.

[YardRat]

Big failure this off-season not addressing the back-up QB position adequately.

[ServoBillieves]

This is a ****ing joke right?

[Mr. Pink]

As much as I hate Pigpen this kind of makes sense at least on a short term basis.

Jackson obviously doesn't know the playbook and if Fitz gets hurt early in the year it would be tough having to play a guy that knows likely 10 total plays.

Now if Pigpen is still here come the bye I'll be shocked and pissed.

[SquishDaFish]

<s>@</s>ByTimGraham (https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham) Source tells me Bills are keeping H-back Dorin Dickerson.

[better days]

VERY strange year of cuts this year IMO.

[ZAZusmc03]

Good, I like the ability he brings to the team.

[better days]

Why would they pick him up? What has this guy ever done, ever except get hurt?

He was hurt ONCE. Last year was a medical condition. He is fully recoverd from both. AGAIN the guy has the potential to be GREAT. He may never realize that potential, but it is there, unlike many players throughout the NFL that have no potential to be anything better than mediocre to average.

[X-Era]

McKillop cut? Good. Carder cut? Huhh? Who is the backup?

Must be Morrison.

Which means we have Barnett, Shepp, Morrison, Moats, and Bradham? 5 total?

I wonder if they won't scan the wire for another LB addition.

[ZAZusmc03]

I'd imagine these guys that are PS eligible are told by the org. that if they clear the waivers we would like to keep them. His tweet doesn't sound as though that conversation happened.

[X-Era]

This move is solely insurance until they have fully evaluated Jackson. Then they will release Thigpen or Jackson. One of those two will not stay on the team all year.

[X-Era]

Even more reason to put LB at the top of the want list from next years offseason... along with WR.

[X-Era]

Zero issue with cutting him. I want a legit player or prospect at WR. I'm a huge fan of Justin Hunter from Tenn, and Keenan Allen from Cal.

[GingerP]

No he's still eligible. You have to be active for 9 games in one season to lose eligibility and he's never been active for any since he spent both seasons on IR.

If the rules are as I understand them, you can't have more than one full season accrued, active or on reserve. If you have one season and are active less than 9 games, then you are eligible, but Easley has 2 seasons accrued.

I didn't think anyone with 2 accrued seasons was eligible for the practice squad, no matter how many games they are active.

[better days]

I'd imagine these guys that are PS eligible are told by the org. that if they clear the waivers we would like to keep them. His tweet doesn't sound as though that conversation happened.

Agreed, if he was told he was wanted on the PS he would have tweeted "caught up in a numbers game" NOT "wasn't the right fit".

[SquishDaFish]

nm

[better days]

Zero issue with cutting him. I want a legit player or prospect at WR. I'm a huge fan of Justin Hunter from Tenn, and Keenan Allen from Cal.

Yeah, cause they are both legit players. LOL.

[Buffalogic]

5 wr's is pretty thin. They are going to add one if not two

[mikemac2001]

it makes sense

[Buffalogic]

Disappointing. He has talent obviously. Somebody will get it out of him.

[better days]

This move is solely insurance until they have fully evaluated Jackson. Then they will release Thigpen or Jackson. One of those two will not stay on the team all year.

The point is if both are on the roster opening day, the Bills will have to pay both their entire salary even if later released. Maybe Ralph is not so cheap or the Bills have him locked up in a hospital under lock & key so he can't object.

[X-Era]

Yeah, cause they are both legit players. LOL.
Legit player OR prospect (meaning legit prospect).

Easley was a mid-round guy who was considered to be an average prospect by many. He's more like a guy a team really liked when many other weren't so high on him than a prospect that everyone saw the high potential in.

[GingerP]

That is a lot of money for insurance. I hope they got him to take a paycut.

[mikemac2001]

scott as posted above and keep a Safety they like more

[kingJofNYC]

this may actually be a blessing, maybe chan's realized he can't go 4 and 5 wide all game long, hahahaha

seriously doubt it, but im sick of the spread ****

[mikemac2001]

Ralph is cheap

pretty sure i saw a post regarding this and why we got jackson to cut thigpen

[Generalissimus Gibby]

dear God someone please just cut Thiggy Puddin

[X-Era]

The point is if both are on the roster opening day, the Bills will have to pay both their entire salary even if later released. Maybe Ralph is not so cheap or the Bills have him locked up in a hospital under lock & key so he can't object.I really don't care. If we "lose" money this way, I don't care. My point was that I really don;t think we keep both all season.

[ZAZusmc03]

I don't see why people are *****ing about this. TJax knows basically none of the playbook, Thigpen is there as insurance for the beginning of the season, or at until TJax gets the playbook down. You'd rather we cut him and rely on a guy that doesn't know the playbook if Fitz goes down early?

[ServoBillieves]

YES! My Hombre! So pumped for this!

[GingerP]

It could mean they are going to use Spiller more in spread sets.

if Johnson gets hurt the offense is screwed. He better stay healthy.

[ServoBillieves]

We need a BACKUP QB. If we're that afraid that our starting QB will go down in 1 week, then why not hire a better Strength and Conditioning coach? Pretty sure that if we traded potential for a quarterback, then he could pick up the offense or at least the vanilla version in 2 or 3 weeks.

[GingerP]

Dude's a stiff.

[better days]

Legit player OR prospect (meaning legit prospect).

Easley was a mid-round guy who was considered to be an average prospect by many. He's more like a guy a team really liked when many other weren't so high on him than a prospect that everyone saw the high potential in.

Well, if both have GREAT years turn out to be great, legit prospects, what do you think the chances are of the Bills getting either of them? Stevie Johnson was another small school guy as was Freddie Jackson, NOBODY thought either of them were legit prospects either.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

This team is just plain determined to lose, isn't it?

[YardRat]

I like having underdogs to root for. Good for him.

[X-Era]

I like Dickersons athleticism. I think he's a good prospect for the spread.

[ServoBillieves]

Played RB and LB in high school, played WR, TE, FB, LB, and RB in college at Pitt, and was drafted as a WR to Houston. The guy is the epitome of an H-Back. You think Smith is a weapon? Double D is a weapon.

[X-Era]

Well, if both have GREAT years turn out to be great, legit prospects, what do you think the chances are of the Bills getting either of them? Stevie Johnson was another small school guy as was Freddie Jackson, NOBODY thought either of them were legit prospects either.
What do I think the chances are? Based on projecting where we will pick and where they will evaluate ulitmately? I think there is a chance we have a shot at one or the other. I worry (for the Bills) that if Hunter has recovered fully (and reports are he has), and shows what he's capable of, that he may be the 1st or 2nd WR taken assuming he declares. At this extremely early point, I'm thinking we pick in the middle to late round 1. I think Hunter or Allen could end up in that range.

But, we know very little about where we will pick and where these guys will end up grading out.

These are guys I like based on what I've seen. Where I guess we may pick. And where I guess they may fall.

That's a lot of unknowns.

BTW, both Stevie and Freddie proved themselves on the field Easley has done zero on the field.

[kingJofNYC]

This is a ****ing joke right?

You wanted them to go with T.Jack and B.Smith at QB. Now that would be a ****ing joke.

Once they cut Young, Thigpen was a shoe in.


We need a BACKUP QB. If we're that afraid that our starting QB will go down in 1 week, then why not hire a better Strength and Conditioning coach? Pretty sure that if we traded potential for a quarterback, then he could pick up the offense or at least the vanilla version in 2 or 3 weeks.

A strength and conditioning coach doesn't prevent injuries. **** happens, bones break, ligaments rupture.

[Parzival]

Big failure this off-season not addressing the back-up QB position adequately.

Failure, but I don't think it's from lack of trying. They did bring in Young who I think we all thought would at least make the team. He proved he couldn't cut it and got cut. I really think Kirk Cousins was our pick in the third if the Skins didn't take him. Still a head scratcher.

[GingerP]

If he is so good, why is he on his 4th team in 3 years?

He is too small and not physical enough for TE, and not quick enough for WR. He does have straight-line speed, but he doesn't cut or move like a WR. He is a tweener who doesn't have a position. I'm sure he is a nice guy, but I just haven't seen much that would make you think he is a good NFL player. Even if you keep him around as a specialty receiver in spread sets, he doesn't do much on ST.

I just don't see it.

[Goobylal]

I'd put Powell in the PS. While Moorman is kicking as well as, if not better than, ever, he won't be around a whole lot longer.

And hopefully Potter makes it.

[more cowbell]

Well, this post is just STUPID. There is no question Easley has shown he has potential. When that potential does come to fruition, I would like to see him do it on the Bills.

...what potential...the one preseason game where he caught a TD last season? Yeah wow...Impressive.

[better days]

What do I think the chances are? Based on projecting where we will pick and where they will evaluate ulitmately? I think there is a chance we have a shot at one or the other. I worry (for the Bills) that if Hunter has recovered fully (and reports are he has), and shows what he's capable of, that he may be the 1st or 2nd WR taken assuming he declares. At this extremely early point, I'm thinking we pick in the middle to late round 1. I think Hunter or Allen could end up in that range.

But, we know very little about where we will pick and where these guys will end up grading out.

Agreed if both truly are legit prospects, both could be gone by the end of the first rnd. I just don't think Nix would draft a WR in the first rnd even if mid to late. The Bills NEED to draft a QB this year period, no matter how Fitz plays. They will have nobody behind him next year if they don't because Jackson is on a one year deal. If Fitz has a good year, don't be surprised if the Bills have to give up an extra pick or two to get a QB they desperately will need.

[X-Era]

Agreed if both truly are legit prospects, both could be gone by the end of the first rnd. I just don't think Nix would draft a WR in the first rnd even if mid to late. The Bills NEED to draft a QB this year period, no matter how Fitz plays. They will have nobody behind him next year if they don't because Jackson is on a one year deal. If Fitz has a good year, don't be surprised if the Bills have to give up an extra pick or two to get a QB they desperately will need.
I understand your take. But, I don't see the Bills placing as high an importance on QB as you do. They have had multiple drafts to get a prospect and have ignored it for all practical purposes. They seem to believe in Fitz. I agree that I'd like a developmental guy if Fitz stinks it up but I don't think the Bills are thinking this way.

If I had to guess right now I would say both Allen and Hunter are 1st rounders. I think Hunter could be the 1st WR taken; I like him that much. So, you could be right that neither may be there. That's why I look at the whole team and all the needs and look at where they may fall and where we may pick. I think Te'o and Skov may also be possibilities at LB for the Bills.

[more cowbell]

He was hurt ONCE. Last year was a medical condition. He is fully recoverd from both. AGAIN the guy has the potential to be GREAT. He may never realize that potential, but it is there, unlike many players throughout the NFL that have no potential to be anything better than mediocre to average.

As I stated in my original post...Whether it was his "fault" or not the guy has never played in a regular season game, and he was drafted in 2010. If he showed all of this "potential" then why was he the sixth WR on the depth chart on a team that can certainly use a WR? Oh yeah...and now he's teamless.

[Bone]

Per Gregg rosenthal at nfl.com

[ServoBillieves]

HUZZAH!

[better days]

I understand your take. But, I don't see the Bills placing as high an importance on QB as you do. They have had multiple drafts to get a prospect and have ignored it for all practical purposes. They seem to believe in Fitz. I agree that I'd like a developmental guy if Fitz stinks it up but I don't think the Bills are thinking this way.

I'm just speculating, but I think the Bills thought they could get Wilson or Cousins this past draft, later than they were drafted. NOBODY expected both Seattle & Washington to take a QB other than the Skins drafting RGIII. And both Wilson Cousins have looked GOOD this preseason.

[better days]

As I stated in my original post...Whether it was his "fault" or not the guy has never played in a regular season game, and he was drafted in 2010. If he showed all of this "potential" then why was he the sixth WR on the depth chart on a team that can certainly use a WR? Oh yeah...and now he's teamless.

Easley may be teamless, but he won't be for long.

[better days]

Agreed. I posted in another thread I think the Bills thought they could get either Cousins or Wilson in this draft, but were surprised by Seattle & Washington drafting them.

[Ed]

Sam Young and Colin Brown both made the team according to Chris Brown. Also S Delano Howel and Kyle Moore.

[Jan Reimers]

I think they cut a QB - Thigpen - when T. Jackson is up to speed, and add back a WR - Easley - if no on claims him and we put him on the PS.

[Oaf]

If he is so good, why is he on his 4th team in 3 years?

He is too small and not physical enough for TE, and not quick enough for WR. He does have straight-line speed, but he doesn't cut or move like a WR. He is a tweener who doesn't have a position. I'm sure he is a nice guy, but I just haven't seen much that would make you think he is a good NFL player. Even if you keep him around as a specialty receiver in spread sets, he doesn't do much on ST.


I just don't see it.

I like the idea, but I'm in general agreement w/ this.

[YardRat]

I understand your take. But, I don't see the Bills placing as high an importance on QB as you do. They have had multiple drafts to get a prospect and have ignored it for all practical purposes. They seem to believe in Fitz. I agree that I'd like a developmental guy if Fitz stinks it up but I don't think the Bills are thinking this way.

Because they have concentrated on the defense and the o-line before QB. Which, of course, is a philosophy I agree with. The time to concentrate on QB is coming, though...depending on how the lines develop perhaps sooner rather than later.

[better days]

What do I think the chances are? Based on projecting where we will pick and where they will evaluate ulitmately? I think there is a chance we have a shot at one or the other. I worry (for the Bills) that if Hunter has recovered fully (and reports are he has), and shows what he's capable of, that he may be the 1st or 2nd WR taken assuming he declares. At this extremely early point, I'm thinking we pick in the middle to late round 1. I think Hunter or Allen could end up in that range.

But, we know very little about where we will pick and where these guys will end up grading out.

These are guys I like based on what I've seen. Where I guess we may pick. And where I guess they may fall.

That's a lot of unknowns.

BTW, both Stevie and Freddie proved themselves on the field Easley has done zero on the field.

NEITHER Stevie or Fred proved themselves on the field their first two years. FACT.

[Mr. Pink]

NEITHER Stevie or Fred proved themselves on the field their first two years. FACT.

Stevie I'll give you but you're wrong on Jackson. Although Stevie at least saw the field a few times in his first two years though which is a plus over Easley.

Fred Jackson first two years combined stats - 188 carries 871 yards 3 TDs 59 catches 507 yards.

[Mr. Pink]

Easley may be teamless, but he won't be for long.

Why? Because he has size and speed?

Isaiah Williams 6'2" 4.43 CUT by Arizona, Logan Payne 6'4" 4.50 CUT by Baltimore, Lamont Bryant 6'5" 4.45 CUT by Carolina...etc, etc, etc...

There's guys all over the NFL who get cut that have size, speed and potential.

So why are you all over Easley who was raw coming out of college is obviously still raw now and his knocks out of college were poor hands and poor route running?

[kishoph]

5 wr's is pretty thin. They are going to add one if not two

I was thinking the same thing, but after hearing an interview with David Nelson after the cuts were made, I'm not so sure, he basically said that he thinks that they'll be good with the 5 because they plan on getting Scott Chandler more involved. I'd be fine with this, I think that Chandler is capable of pulling in 50-60 receptions. Also they can move Spiller out there a few times a game. As someone else mentioned this could mean less 4 and 5 receiver sets, which I'm also fine with.

[Night Train]

I was thinking the same thing, but after hearing an interview with David Nelson after the cuts were made, I'm not so sure, he basically said that he thinks that they'll be good with the 5 because they plan on getting Scott Chandler more involved. I'd be fine with this, I think that Chandler is capable of pulling in 50-60 receptions. Also they can move Spiller out there a few times a game. As someone else mentioned this could mean less 4 and 5 receiver sets, which I'm also fine with.
It also could mean Fred and C.J. are on the field at the same time quite often, meaning only 2 WR's and TE Chandler. Nelson in only in certain packages.

Personally, I'd throw the ball to Chandler until his hands bled. He's always open and has sure hands. Hard to defend.

At other positions, I expect to see another vet CB coming in within the next couple of days.

Potter was a must keep. He purposely shorted 2 kickoffs to let the coverage show the coaches something in Detroit. Can always drive it out of the end zone. D defending the field 80 yards is huge.

Was fine with the cuts.

[kishoph]

It also could mean Fred and C.J. are on the field at the same time quite often, meaning only 2 WR's and TE Chandler. Nelson in only in certain packages.




I've heard this a few times this preseason, but Gailey has said it in the past also and hasn't really gone to it much, of course with Freddie being injured the 2nd half of last season it wasn't possible. I'd like to see more running plays, we have two good backs, take advantage of them.

[starrymessenger]

Agreed. I posted in another thread I think the Bills thought they could get either Cousins or Wilson in this draft, but were surprised by Seattle & Washington drafting them.
I agree. My guess is that they were thinking the fourth for either one. Suggests to me that they are a little slow to move on a QB. They go a lot sooner now.

[GingerP]

Dwan Edwards signed with Carolina. Good fit for him, they need help inside and he will probably play quite a bit for them.

[X-Era]

NEITHER Stevie or Fred proved themselves on the field their first two years. FACT.in 08, in part time duties, and in Freddies second year with the Bills he ran for over 500 yards and 3 TD's. He proved he can have success in the NFL. So much so that he then became our starter.

Easley never even hit the field and that's the ultimate point.

But, my point is that nothing in what Easleys done should convince the Bills they are all set at #2 WR. In fact, Jones is the same story. To extend it even further, if you set aside Stevie and Nelson's stats, we have less than 500 yards and only 2 TD's from the rest of the WR corp! Sorry, but there is no proven #2 WR on this squad and the Bills should still be looking until one proves themselves.

IMO you don't bank on unproven's at starting positions to the exclusion of looking for upgrades. Gailey and Nix have been clear that they are always looking to get better. Right now, WR and LB are the biggest needs on the team IMO.

We should always be evaluating every position and trying to win now. There's no way we can field confident that we have a proven #2 WR at this point.

[YardRat]

http://www.heraldonline.com/2012/09/06/4243083/dwan-edwards-on-a-fast-track-with.html

Dwan Edwards is trying to remember when he flew to Charlotte to report to the Carolina Panthers. He says last Friday. Then he thinks about it and says Saturday. You can’t blame him. The Buffalo Bills released Edwards Friday, Carolina signed him Tuesday and he will start for the Panthers at defensive tackle against Tampa Bay Sunday.

Good pick up for Carolina...I think their defense could be solid this season.



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