Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

[Joe Fo Sho]

its all in the thread. Go back and read

Oh no, don't go back and read! Coastal will just accuse you of something like this..


You care that much about this and me to be digging up crap like this in some feeble attempt to tilt the table away from me?

Trolls find a way to ignore you know matter what information you bring up.

[pmoon6]

No. Seems you and him are kindred spirits...'twas you who said "in my book" and now can't deal with a response. Tut, tut, how you children like to make statements and can't deal with push back. A sign of our times, alas.:rofl: I can take it as well as give it.

Seems you like making stuff up in your head.

[coastal]

Oh no, don't go back and read! Coastal will just accuse you of something like this..



Trolls find a way to ignore you know matter what information you bring up.
I'm not the one about to get cut from a lucrative deal for not earning it.

[Mr. Pink]

I'm not the one about to get cut from a lucrative deal for not earning it.

I'm sure Mario is upset, he's just gonna sign a new deal with a bunch more guaranteed money in his pocket.

And he might even get to go to a halfway decent team while having that happen and maybe get to play some meaningful football games come December and January.

[Joe Fo Sho]

I'm not the one about to get cut from a lucrative deal for not earning it.

You're just the one who's been crying for it to happen for 4 seasons.

[BertSquirtgum]

No

[feldspar]

its all in the thread. Go back and read

Let me get this straight: you want me to go back through over TWELVE HUNDRED posts to find where you said that Mario faked a wrist injury before? Is that right?

I already remember you saying that, but I'm asking you what exactly you are basing that conclusion on. You make that presumption based on prejudice, and I have to ask myself if even YOU truly believe that. How could you make such a claim? Gimme one link from a reputable source that even comes close to proving your case here.

I think it's a proven fact that you've injured your wrist while violently whacking off to visions of Mario. Read the thread again, and you'll find your proof.

How many games did you watch of your beloved Bills again this year? Last year?

[feldspar]

Not in my book...often attacks the poster, not the post.

**** your post.

[Novacane]

I'm sure Mario is upset, he's just gonna sign a new deal with a bunch more guaranteed money in his pocket.

And he might even get to go to a halfway decent team while having that happen and maybe get to play some meaningful football games come December and January.


Think he'll actually give an effort if he makes it to a meaningful game?

[Blondie]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/anonymous-bills-player-rips-mario-williams--who-likely-will-be-cut-162405012.html

Best part of this:

Still, it's on Williams — paid handsomely, mind you — to do what the coaches are asking him to do, no matter how crazy it sounds, to the best of his ability. That's how winning teams operate. The Bills, sadly, will not have a winning season and only have had two since 1999.


Mario is FOOLS GOLD.

[feldspar]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/anonymous-bills-player-rips-mario-williams--who-likely-will-be-cut-162405012.html

Best part of this:

Still, it's on Williams — paid handsomely, mind you — to do what the coaches are asking him to do, no matter how crazy it sounds, to the best of his ability. That's how winning teams operate. The Bills, sadly, will not have a winning season and only have had two since 1999.


Mario is FOOLS GOLD.




That's right, keep the thread going, honey pie.

The large fonts means it's true, new, and insightful.

[Blondie]

Awe.. Honey pie..

I like honey and I like pie, the two together are marvelous!

Kisses.. You made may day :D

[YardRat]

When I lock this thread, are you going to pick out another player and get one started for the next three years?

[coastal]

When I lock this thread, are you going to pick out another player and get one started for the next three years?
No.

next enemy in Russ Brandon.

Its a fight I will likely have to take to my grave.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

No.

next enemy in Russ Brandon.

Its a fight I will likely have to take to my grave.

im fighting with you to the death on that one. I'll keep bumping that every day if I have to.

[Blondie]

im fighting with you to the death on that one. I'll keep bumping that every day if I have to.

wow, you are hardcore man.

[swiper]

Mario Williams had one nice play today. Otherwise useless.

He didn't even try on that TD to Decker. It was pathetic.

[swiper]

Geez. Watch Williams...

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Manny Lawson goes 100% always. Williams looks for opportunities.

[swiper]

LAWSON!!!!!!!!!!!

[HHURRICANE]

Mario didn't want to tackle today. Nice strip but I also watched him jog on almost every play.

[coastal]

Like Mario's Fool's Gold career here in Buffalo... this thread is about to end!

[Owen DeBoard]

Geez. Watch Williams...

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Manny Lawson goes 100% always. Williams looks for opportunities.
Like him or not but Jerry Hughes always gives 100%. Now if he would just clean up the stupid personal foul penalties he will help this team a lot.

[mdcas22]

a team doesn't get better by getting rid of 1 of your best D players, as bad as everyone is saying about Mario he is tied for the lead in sacks, he is not the only 1 that his sack totals have gone down, and now we got people saying he is dogging it on most plays. unreal. do doubt you can't pay him 20 million but you try and restructure 1st but because of all the bad talk I wouldn't restucture either, he will end up with N.E or Miami and haunt us in the future.

[swiper]

a team doesn't get better by getting rid of 1 of your best D players, as bad as everyone is saying about Mario he is tied for the lead in sacks, he is not the only 1 that his sack totals have gone down, and now we got people saying he is dogging it on most plays. unreal. do doubt you can't pay him 20 million but you try and restructure 1st but because of all the bad talk I wouldn't restucture either, he will end up with N.E or Miami and haunt us in the future.

Firstly, Mario has said he is not interested in redoing his contract. It's not on the table. That's why everybody is reporting that he is getting released. Try to keep up.

Secondly, try watching the games. Today, for instance, he gave no effort on most plays. It was pathetic and should make the man paying him angrier than hell.

Let him go slack off in Indianapolis or somewhere like that. I guarantee you that Robert Kraft isn't gong to pay him the kind of money he wants the way he plays.

[coastal]

The same year we signed Mario "Super Fool's Gold" Williams... Denver signed Peyton.

Two trips to the Super Bowl later, do you think Elway would rather have Mario?

[YardRat]

Buffalo wasn't even at the bottom of list of possibilities for Manning to land, so it's a moot point.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

The same year we signed Mario "Super Fool's Gold" Williams... Denver signed Peyton.

Two trips to the Super Bowl later, do you think Elway would rather have Mario?

If you've been thinking this whole time that we had the choice between Mario and Peyton and chose Mario, it explains a lot.

[coastal]

If you've been thinking this whole time that we had the choice between Mario and Peyton and chose Mario, it explains a lot.
And why didn't we?

[IlluminatusUIUC]

And why didn't we?

We had nothing to offer him. Denver had a much better roster and Tennessee was a place where he enjoyed playing and was still a folk hero.

He turned down San Francisco for ****s sake, and they were a Super Bowl favorite. How does our pitch to Manning sound? "Hey, we know you are looking for a title before you retire, how about you come to Buffalo? You can throw to Steve Johnson and handoff to CJ Spiller. If you struggle, it's OK, our 30th ranked scoring defense will ball you out."

[BertSquirtgum]

When is Mario getting cut from the Bills?

[pmoon6]

The same year we signed Mario "Super Fool's Gold" Williams... Denver signed Peyton.

Two trips to the Super Bowl later, do you think Elway would rather have Mario?HaHaHa. Peyton would have laughed if the Bills offered him 100 million per game to come to Buffalo.

[pmoon6]

If you've been thinking this whole time that we had the choice between Mario and Peyton and chose Mario, it explains a lot.Hey, Coastal knows football, dontcha know.

[Blondie]

If you've been thinking this whole time that we had the choice between Mario and Peyton and chose Mario, it explains a lot.

I don't think this was his point..

I think his point is that teams pay players big money when they WANT to make a run for the Superbowl.... Not to not even make it to the playoffs 16 years running..

Paying Mario $100 million from the beginning was a stupid decision for the BILLS and it got them no where...

They should have just disbursed the money to their fans, at least then they would have gotten more in return ... OR they could have taken the money and tossed it out the window..

Either way this is just one more example as to why the BILLS just suck and have no real desire to be winners.

[TacklingDummy]

Like Mario's Fool's Gold career here in Buffalo... this thread is about to end!

This thread will be alive and well next year when Mario does nothing with his new team.

[BertSquirtgum]

I don't think this was his point..

I think his point is that teams pay players big money when they WANT to make a run for the Superbowl.... Not to not even make it to the playoffs 16 years running..

Paying Mario $100 million from the beginning was a stupid decision for the BILLS and it got them no where...

They should have just disbursed the money to their fans, at least then they would have gotten more in return ... OR they could have taken the money and tossed it out the window..

Either way this is just one more example as to why the BILLS just suck and have no real desire to be winners.

Go paint your nails

[Blondie]

Go paint your nails

Go play with your balls

[Joe Fo Sho]

Go play with your balls

You first.

[coastal]

Awesome job, baby!

The mouth breathers are melting... just like Fool's Gold did.

mario had his excuse for a lack of production provided for him by an external situation (Rex and a defensive philosophy change). Instead of taking ownership for his role... he took his opportunity to divert the attention elsewhere.

As parents... we are more than familiar with this kind of behavior and Bills fans are getting to watch a guy with a $100 million contract exercise the same behavior.

theyre failure to recognize this is telling as it relates to their own emotional intelligence.

[Blondie]

You first.

Nah, I will let you do the honors. Once you get them warm maybe you should start sucking them too... You seem like you'd be good at that

[Joe Fo Sho]

Nah, I will let you do the honors. Once you get them warm maybe you should start sucking them too... You seem like you'd be good at that

It takes one to know one.

[Blondie]

It takes one to know one.

Exactly.. Why do you think I knew you'd be good at it :D

Now go get to work.

[coastal]

It takes one to know one.
I didn't marry her for her cooking... although her meatloaf is pretty awesome.

[Blondie]

Awesome job, baby!

The mouth breathers are melting... just like Fool's Gold did.

mario had his excuse for a lack of production provided for him by an external situation (Rex and a defensive philosophy change). Instead of taking ownership for his role... he took his opportunity to divert the attention elsewhere.

As parents... we are more than familiar with this kind of behavior and Bills fans are getting to watch a guy with a $100 million contract exercise the same behavior.

theyre failure to recognize this is telling as it relates to their own emotional intelligence.

They are ball suckers not mouth breathers...

[Blondie]

I didn't marry her for her cooking... although her meatloaf is pretty awesome.


And here i thought it was the way I moved my hips, not my mouth.

[coastal]

Time for a nooner!

[Blondie]

Time for a nooner!

You're not here so who will be my nooner.... Bwahahahahaha

[coastal]

Acca awkward

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

You're not here so who will be my nooner.... Bwahahahahaha


My guess is mario

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I don't think this was his point..

I think his point is that teams pay players big money when they WANT to make a run for the Superbowl.... Not to not even make it to the playoffs 16 years running..

If that's his point, it's a silly point. The Bills thought their #1 weakness was pass rush and Mario was a great pass rusher hitting the FA market, which rarely happens. They went hard after him and overpaid him because Buffalo was (and remains) an undesirable FA destination. So undesirable that Manning wouldn't have even picked up the phone if Nix called, so there's no reason to bring him into the conversation. He might as well be complaining that we didn't draft Cam Newton or Von Miller, they won the games for their teams yesterday and we had just as much of a shot at getting them.

[Mr. Pink]

If that's his point, it's a silly point. The Bills thought their #1 weakness was pass rush and Mario was a great pass rusher hitting the FA market, which rarely happens. They went hard after him and overpaid him because Buffalo was (and remains) an undesirable FA destination. So undesirable that Manning wouldn't have even picked up the phone if Nix called, so there's no reason to bring him into the conversation. He might as well be complaining that we didn't draft Cam Newton or Von Miller, they won the games for their teams yesterday and we had just as much of a shot at getting them.

My favorite is still Coastal thinking we should have drafted Jabaal Sheard instead. Amp up that time machine and go back a year to get him, so then we don't have to sign Mario.

We won't mention that Sheard wouldn't have even fit the system at the time either.

[Blondie]

If that's his point, it's a silly point. The Bills thought their #1 weakness was pass rush and Mario was a great pass rusher hitting the FA market, which rarely happens. They went hard after him and overpaid him because Buffalo was (and remains) an undesirable FA destination. So undesirable that Manning wouldn't have even picked up the phone if Nix called, so there's no reason to bring him into the conversation. He might as well be complaining that we didn't draft Cam Newton or Von Miller, they won the games for their teams yesterday and we had just as much of a shot at getting them.

Players don't come to Buffalo because they recruit ****ty players plain and simple. Mario was no more the savior than the next guy. Mario is one lucky son of a ***** because he played for a ****ty team and got paid! He didn't have to put much effort into his play time ..

Maybe had the BILLS recruited 10 solid players and paid them $5 Million each and built a solid team, then they could justify spending $100 Million on a guy like Mario, to COMPLETE the team, but that wasn't the case and will NEVER be the case. The BILLS don't know how to be winners. All they know is how to lose, and the fans don't care because they have NOTHING else. They are satisfied with their 4 trips to the SB, and that is it.

Its cool, just embrace it... :D

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My guess is mario

YAY!! I am going to put a little honey on them chocolate balls!!! Make them a little sweeter :D

[coastal]

My favorite is still Coastal thinking we should have drafted Jabaal Sheard instead. Amp up that time machine and go back a year to get him, so then we don't have to sign Mario.

We won't mention that Sheard wouldn't have even fit the system at the time either.
Funny you bring up Jabaal... he just played in the AFC Championship Game.

Guess who didn't?

[feldspar]

Funny you bring up Jabaal... he just played in the AFC Championship Game.

Guess who didn't?

JJ Watt is my guess.

[coastal]

JJ Watt is my guess.
I'll give u another guess...

17656

[feldspar]

I'll give u another guess...
]

I'm wrong?

[coastal]

I'm wrong?
You mean the JJ Watt that played in the wild card round?

[Historian]

They are satisfied with their 4 trips to the SB, and that is it.


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I agree wholeheartedly.

I think this organization has been comfortably sitting back, basking in the glow of four SB appearances, for over twenty years now.

Big accomplishment? Sure.

Is the job finished? Not even close.

Ed Rutkowski said in an interview a few years back that he was at a party, talking with someone from the SB years.

When whomever it was started bragging about how big the AFC Championship ring was, Rutkowski's calm reply was:

"I would never wear a second place ring."

That's why I believe the Brandons, Overdorfs, and Munsons all need to be given their walking papers.

These people have become complacent about losing.

[Blondie]

:goodpost:

That is why I have nothing but respect for the Historian!

[feldspar]

You mean the JJ Watt that played in the wild card round?

That's the one. He had one tackle there, and his team got skunked and lost by 30-points in that round...could have been more. But yeah, that's the one I'm speaking of.

But he didn't play in that AFC Championship game, so you can see how I would guess that's who you were talking about.

I'm still wrong?

[trapezeus]

this thread is so painful. it's a calling card on how uninformed the original poster and his wife are. Mario brought in a top defense and multiple seasons of huge sack counts. the team was largely mismanaged last year. and something tells me if the bills had even won the superbowl, this moron would still be arguing about something. it's pure hate for no reason. and its largely unjustified from stats and for people who watch every game. he won't be here next year. hopefully this is done then. but I suspect these 2 will keep posting until he retires. #stalkerscary

[coastal]

this thread is so painful. it's a calling card on how uninformed the original poster and his wife are. Mario brought in a top defense and multiple seasons of huge sack counts. the team was largely mismanaged last year. and something tells me if the bills had even won the superbowl, this moron would still be arguing about something. it's pure hate for no reason. and its largely unjustified from stats and for people who watch every game. he won't be here next year. hopefully this is done then. but I suspect these 2 will keep posting until he retires. #stalkerscary
16 years.

winning.

[coastal]

I'm still wrong?perhaps... but I can't past the thought of you licking windows to take a thing you have to say seriously.

[feldspar]

perhaps... but I can't past the thought of you licking windows to take a thing you have to say seriously.

Tit for tat...and you're the tit.

And I'm definitely not wrong...

[coastal]

Dork

[Blondie]

Tit for tat...and you're the tit.

And I'm definitely not wrong...

Hey he is MY tit and I like pinching his nipples .. he likes it when i give them a twist too!

[YardRat]

Go play with your balls

lol...like anybody around here has to be told to do that.

[pmoon6]

If that's his point, it's a silly point. The Bills thought their #1 weakness was pass rush and Mario was a great pass rusher hitting the FA market, which rarely happens. They went hard after him and overpaid him because Buffalo was (and remains) an undesirable FA destination. So undesirable that Manning wouldn't have even picked up the phone if Nix called, so there's no reason to bring him into the conversation. He might as well be complaining that we didn't draft Cam Newton or Von Miller, they won the games for their teams yesterday and we had just as much of a shot at getting them.Miller was gone when we drafted so we took Dareus.

[feldspar]

Dork

That's pretty ****ing clever. How do you do it?

Guess that means you win, huh?

Tell your wife to give you another titty-twister for me.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Miller was gone when we drafted so we took Dareus.

that was his point moonie.

[Blondie]

lol...like anybody around here has to be told to do that.

No more than any woman needs to hear, go paint your nails OR toes :D

At least we are making ourselves look good, you neanderthals on the other hand .. not so much.

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That's pretty ****ing clever. How do you do it?

Guess that means you win, huh?

Tell your wife to give you another titty-twister for me.

OK :D

[pmoon6]

that was his point moonie.Thanks, I misread his post.

That's what I get for skimming. Maybe I should retake that speed reading course.

[pmoon6]

That's pretty ****ing clever. How do you do it?

Guess that means you win, huh?

Tell your wife to give you another titty-twister for me.I'm waiting for her to pierce his nipples, insert rings, attach chains and lead him around the house.

I want it on video as well.

[YardRat]

I'm waiting for her to pierce his nipples, insert rings, attach chains and lead him around the house.


Based on this thread, and a couple of others, I just assumed that was already a given.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

I'll give u another guess...

17656

are you at the other end of this gun? is this why you hate him so much?

[BertSquirtgum]

My balls itch

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Players don't come to Buffalo because they recruit ****ty players plain and simple.

Players don't come to Buffalo because they don't want to come to Buffalo. Robert Meachem literally walked out of a dinner meeting with Buddy Nix and signed with San Diego over the phone. Tyson Clabo played us for leverage with Atlanta. And so on.


Mario was no more the savior than the next guy.

Your boytoy's exact claim is that Manning would have been our savior. But he wasn't an option.

[Blondie]

Players don't come to Buffalo because they don't want to come to Buffalo. Robert Meachem literally walked out of a dinner meeting with Buddy Nix and signed with San Diego over the phone. Tyson Clabo played us for leverage with Atlanta. And so on.



Your boytoy's exact claim is that Manning would have been our savior. But he wasn't an option.

You think the only reason players don't come to buffalo is because it's BUFFALO??

Just want to make sure I am understanding you correctly..

And coastals exact claim were NOT Manning would have been Buffalos savior. He ASKED a question, he didn't state a claim, but carry on ...

[coastal]

Ball suckers... lol

[IlluminatusUIUC]

You think the only reason players don't come to buffalo is because it's BUFFALO??

I said they don't want to come to Buffalo. Our team offers them no chance at a title, has high taxes, bad weather, and limited opportunities for career exposure. For some players, money is enough. For others, it isn't, but that's all we have to offer at this point.


And coastals exact claim were NOT Manning would have been Buffalos savior. He ASKED a question, he didn't state a claim, but carry on ...

Why else would you bring up Manning in a thread about Williams?

[Joe Fo Sho]

Why else would you bring up Manning in a thread about Williams?

This thread is not about Williams, it's about Coastal.

[coastal]

This thread is not about Williams, it's about Coastal.
67 pages of it in all its glory!

like Blondie said... ball lickers

[YardRat]

You have to admit, it's a pretty good troll thread, as far as troll threads go.

[coastal]

You have to admit, it's a pretty good troll thread, as far as troll threads go.
Fact based trolling isn't trolling

[Blondie]

67 pages of it in all its glory!

like Blondie said... ball lickers

Suckers .. BALL SUCKERS :D

[Mace]

Suckers .. BALL SUCKERS :D

Some of us morbidly obese people with chronic monstrous swellings and weeping sores prefer less aggressive oral ministrations, thank you.

[pmoon6]

67 pages of it in all its glory!

like Blondie said... ball lickersSays the guy who needs his old lady to back up his Bull ****.

Maybe after you take off the apron, you can tell us how you wear the pants in the family.....

...and I would assume it's hard to get your balls licked when they're hidden away in Blondies' purse.:D

[Blondie]

Says the guy who needs his old lady to back up his Bull ****.

Maybe after you take off the apron, you can tell us how you wear the pants in the family.....

...and I would assume it's hard to get your balls licked when they're hidden away in Blondies' purse.:D

He doesn't need me to back him up..

It's painful reading yalls posts and clearly not getting his point.

And he can keep the apron on, and I will lick his balls while he is cooking! :D

[coastal]

lol.

pwnage.

[pmoon6]

lol.

pwnage.If you say so. How's the view behind her skirt?

[YardRat]

67 pages of it in all its glory!

like Blondie said... ball lickers


Says the guy who needs his old lady to back up his Bull ****.

Maybe after you take off the apron, you can tell us how you wear the pants in the family.....

...and I would assume it's hard to get your balls licked when they're hidden away in Blondies' purse.:D

lol...

"Yeah! What she said!"

Case in point...

[Mr. Cynical]

btw is this thread anywhere near the record for most pages on this site?

[feldspar]

btw is this thread anywhere near the record for most pages on this site?

Why not?

After all, it takes over 1300 posts and 68 pages to make the point that Mario Williams is overpaid.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

btw is this thread anywhere near the record for most pages on this site?

Longest one I've seen was the thread about Rick, the former owner of buffalorange.com, which I recall reaching 100+ pages

Guess which two divas started that thread?

[Zero]

the thread that never dies...

[Blondie]

Longest one I've seen was the thread about Rick, the former owner of buffalorange.com, which I recall reaching 100+ pages

Guess which two divas started that thread?

Lol .. Quit being a ball sucker. You are better than that

[Joe Fo Sho]

Lol .. Quit being a ball sucker. You are better than that

OMG, guys! Look! It's a girl calling a guy a 'ball sucker!' Can you believe it? What a thing this 'inter-net' is!! She's sooooo edgy!

[Blondie]

OMG, guys! Look! It's a girl calling a guy a 'ball sucker!' Can you believe it? What a thing this 'inter-net' is!! She's sooooo edgy!

ahhh how cute.. Jo Fo Sho riding in for some attention :D

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/130821153453-pavel-13-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

[Joe Fo Sho]

ahhh how cute.. Jo Fo Sho riding in for some attention :D

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/130821153453-pavel-13-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

She's done it AGAIN!!! OMG, it's a pic of a naked dude on a horse, and she's inferring that I'M THE NAKED GUY! How clever is that?! HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Is anyone else paying attention to this chick?!?!?!?! She's totally winning the internet right now!!!!!!!

[coastal]

Denver signed Peyton.

We signed Mario "Super Fool's Gold" Williams.

Denver just won the Super Bowl.

you guys can all shampoo my crotch.

[YardRat]

Denver signed Peyton.

We signed Mario "Super Fool's Gold" Williams.

Denver just won the Super Bowl.

you guys can all shampoo my crotch.

http://www.drugstoredepot.com.au/images/thumbnails/8/300/300/Vagisil_Feminine_Wash_175Ml.jpg

[pmoon6]

Denver signed Peyton.

We signed Mario "Super Fool's Gold" Williams.

Denver just won the Super Bowl.

you guys can all shampoo my crotch.Ha! Manning didn't win the Super Bowl, the defense did. Maybe we should have went out and bought two safeties, a corner and Demarcus Ware.

As far as shampooing your crotch, what kind of douche do you want? Strawberry?

[coastal]

Ha! Manning didn't win the Super Bowl, the defense did. Maybe we should have went out and bought two safeties, a corner and Demarcus Ware.

As far as shampooing your crotch, what kind of douche do you want? Strawberry?
Culture of champions...


not Russ Brandon's marketing ploy contract signing of a douchebag that spends $1,000,000 on an engagement ring.

[Mr. Cynical]

Ah well...did a search and found this one....136 pages....looks like Fools Gold is going down as the #2 unless there's some really creative posting ahead in the next 30 days before he's released ;)

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/213150-Emails-I-have-received-from-the-Billsman

(although technically that is in the spin zone and not about football, so could be a disqualifier)

[pmoon6]

Ah well...did a search and found this one....136 pages....looks like Fools Gold is going down as the #2 unless there's some really creative posting ahead in the next 30 days before he's released ;)

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/213150-Emails-I-have-received-from-the-Billsman

(although technically that is in the spin zone and not about football, so could be a disqualifier)This thread isn't about football. It's about Coastie tweaking everyone's nose.

Then he goes and beats off.

[Blondie]

Ah well...did a search and found this one....136 pages....looks like Fools Gold is going down as the #2 unless there's some really creative posting ahead in the next 30 days before he's released ;)

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/213150-Emails-I-have-received-from-the-Billsman

(although technically that is in the spin zone and not about football, so could be a disqualifier)

That was an awesome thread.. Does anyone know whatever happened to the Range?

[pmoon6]

That was an awesome thread.. Does anyone know whatever happened to the Range?It's still there last time I checked, but it gets very little participation.

It seems it's Lit's very small sandbox with only three playmates.

[swiper]

It's still there last time I checked, but it gets very little participation.

It seems it's Lit's very small sandbox with only three playmates.

ROFLMAO. Those playmates are just him using other names trying to make it look like he's got users.

[pmoon6]

ROFLMAO. Those playmates are just him using other names trying to make it look like he's got users.Really. I always knew he was deeply disturbed, but........

[coastal]

How dare someone turn this thread about me into a thread about that psycho

[coastal]

Every hater in this thread can blow me!

you now have permission to close this thread...

*drops mic*

[Buffalogic]

Every hater in this thread can blow me!

you now have permission to close this thread...

*drops mic*Why? Because he eventually got cut after having tremendous seasons here? Cool, that happens to every player ever. Not sure why you are expecting any sort of kudos. This thread proves your idiocy on this topic more than anything else and it culminates with this post.

[coastal]

Keep slurping... I'm almost there!

[swiper]

Tide's out.

Or in.

Or surf's up.

Whatever.

Nobody cares.

You told us all you wrote off the Bills and were going to be a 49ers fan. How'd that work out for you?

[Victor7]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/44367130.jpg

[YardRat]

lol...cookie for Victor and the RDJ meme...

http://images.media-allrecipes.com/userphotos/250x250/54991.jpg

[BertSquirtgum]

Sometimes, when I eat a lot of protein, my farts smell.

[Novacane]

Bye Mario!

[coastal]

For all of you mouth breathers and window lickers...

this has never been about Mario "Super Fool's Gold" Williams. This has always been about the decision making process that went into making him the highest paid defensive player in the franchise's and NFL's history.

We went all in on this guy and what was the return...

...16 years and counting. It's that simple.

As a contrast, Dan Elway and the Denver Broncos went all in on Peyton Manning. What was their return... two Super Bowl appearances and one Super Bowl win!

and before you all start turning your tighty whities in circles pointing out the fallacy inherent in the player for player comparison... understand that this is all about organizational approaches, structures and decision making.

one side has HOF QB John Elway making decisions about what's best for the football team and one side has ticket salesman Russ Brandon making football decisions about what's best to continue to put butts in seats.

you guys have over and over pointed out how I have a hard-on for Mario... an obsession... want to marry him.. all of this nonsense. I have none of that. Mario is really a very talented football player whose career is going to be viewed as semi-productive but under performing. He's a career pay check collector and not a true warrior of the game. None of that matters though.

If you want to make this thread about my hate or obsession with one person... that person isn't Mario Williams.

its Russ Brandon.

he has sold you the Fool's Gold and pawned it off as real. That makes you the fools.

All ive done is try to help educate you all as to the reality of what you bought hook line and sinker.

soak it up ******s. Enjoy this year's cap hit. It's what you've paid for. It's what you've earned.

and another year closer to two decades of Russ Brandon.

Tide out.

Close the thread.

[Joe Fo Sho]

As a contrast, Dan Elway and the Denver Broncos went all in on Peyton Manning.

Dan Elway is sure to go down in history.

[coastal]

Dan Elway is sure to go down in history.
Blow me

[Joe Fo Sho]

Blow me

Like you've been doing to Mario for 3 years? I guess that why you don't consider yourself a mouth breather, when Mario's around all you seem to be able to do is hum.

[coastal]

Like you've been doing to Mario for 3 years? I guess that why you don't consider yourself a mouth breather, when Mario's around all you seem to be able to do is hum.
Focusing on all the wrong things... typical, predictable, boring.

bills fans.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Focusing on all the wrong things... typical, predictable, boring.

bills fans.

It's the only thing in this thread worth discussing.

[coastal]

It's the only thing in this thread worth discussing.
Bills fans and their collective stupidity? Absolutely!

[Joe Fo Sho]

Bills fans and their collective stupidity? Absolutely!

Not all of us can be Niners fans, just the few that are a special kind of stupid. How's that working out for you, by the way? Are you able to fill the void that Mario left in your mouth with York's meat stick?

[pmoon6]

For all of you mouth breathers and window lickers...

this has never been about Mario "Super Fool's Gold" Williams. This has always been about the decision making process that went into making him the highest paid defensive player in the franchise's and NFL's history.

We went all in on this guy and what was the return...

...16 years and counting. It's that simple.

As a contrast, Dan Elway and the Denver Broncos went all in on Peyton Manning. What was their return... two Super Bowl appearances and one Super Bowl win!

and before you all start turning your tighty whities in circles pointing out the fallacy inherent in the player for player comparison... understand that this is all about organizational approaches, structures and decision making.

one side has HOF QB John Elway making decisions about what's best for the football team and one side has ticket salesman Russ Brandon making football decisions about what's best to continue to put butts in seats.

you guys have over and over pointed out how I have a hard-on for Mario... an obsession... want to marry him.. all of this nonsense. I have none of that. Mario is really a very talented football player whose career is going to be viewed as semi-productive but under performing. He's a career pay check collector and not a true warrior of the game. None of that matters though.

If you want to make this thread about my hate or obsession with one person... that person isn't Mario Williams.

its Russ Brandon.

he has sold you the Fool's Gold and pawned it off as real. That makes you the fools.

All ive done is try to help educate you all as to the reality of what you bought hook line and sinker.

soak it up ******s. Enjoy this year's cap hit. It's what you've paid for. It's what you've earned.

and another year closer to two decades of Russ Brandon.

Tide out.

Close the thread.HaHaHa. yeah, Elway was so "all in" on Manning that he was almost cut last year unless he took a significant pay cut. The Broncos bought the Super Bowl by adding defensive players like Ware, Talib and Ward. It also helped that the NFL wanted a storied ending to a storied career so the Broncos were given the benefit of officials looking the other way when then the Broncos O-Line grabbed, pulled and held their opponents to protect the Golden Boy.

Bottom line is you started this thread to be controversial and attempted to feed your own ego as some kind of great prognosticator. You're just an Ian Rappaport wannabe looking for aggrandizement in a corner of the Internet.

Good job.

[trapezeus]

this thread solidifies coastal as one of the most uninformed posters. the point of this originally was that Mario would be a bust. and he pretty much replicated his numbers in Houston, except for last year when he quit. There are so many other players this thread could have applied to over the years. but you picked the one free agent who actually delivered what was expected. they went to the be a top 4 defense. and after years of being wrong, you close it out because he had a huge payment where he was likely to be cut even if he was performing.

[coastal]

except for last year when he quit.:rofl:

[pmoon6]

this thread solidifies coastal as one of the most uninformed posters. the point of this originally was that Mario would be a bust. and he pretty much replicated his numbers in Houston, except for last year when he quit. There are so many other players this thread could have applied to over the years. but you picked the one free agent who actually delivered what was expected. they went to the be a top 4 defense. and after years of being wrong, you close it out because he had a huge payment where he was likely to be cut even if he was performing.You hit the nail on the head, man. Williams would have been cut regardless. The seeds were sown when they signed Hughes and Dareus to big contracts.

[feldspar]

.

Bottom line is you started this thread to be controversial and attempted to feed your own ego as some kind of great prognosticator. You're just an Ian Rappaport wannabe looking for aggrandizement in a corner of the Internet.

Good job.

That's about all there is to it.

What do you expect, coastal? That we're supposed to bend over backwards to kiss your ass for doing us the grand favor of doing our thinking for us? Most people on this board would watch the Bills under ANY circumstance, no matter how you feel about maybe somebody trying to pull the wool over their eyes or whatever. You're preaching to the choir, and being a douche-bag while you're at it.

I remember you saying that the Bills were trying to put butts in the seats by PRETENDING to go after Tyson Clabo...Tyson Clabo, for crying out loud. Your judgement is not sound in this area. This thread, and the one you created on the the other board were both about the same thing...YOU, you half-assed dip-squat. Congratulations on the attention you get.

How many Bills games have you watched this year again?

[pmoon6]

That's about all there is to it.

What do you expect, coastal? That we're supposed to bend over backwards to kiss your ass for doing us the grand favor of doing our thinking for us? Most people on this board would watch the Bills under ANY circumstance, no matter how you feel about maybe somebody trying to pull the wool over their eyes or whatever. You're preaching to the choir, and being a douche-bag while you're at it.

I remember you saying that the Bills were trying to put butts in the seats by PRETENDING to go after Tyson Clabo...Tyson Clabo, for crying out loud. Your judgement is not sound in this area. This thread, and the one you created on the the other board were both about the same thing...YOU, you half-assed dip-squat. Congratulations on the attention you get.

How many Bills games have you watched this year again?Unfortunately, we see this kind of stuff all too often. Guys make some prediction and then beat their chest when they are correct. If you go back to 2014, Mr. Coastal even backpedaled when Mario made the Pro bowl and we were the No. 4 defense and admitted he was wrong, only to come out with guns a blazin' when Williams didn't play up to expectations this year. Coastal can't say he gave a half hearted effort because he just looked at the stat sheet.

I also find it funny that he bashes Bills Fans as stupid or "mouth breathers" when they aren't as negative as he is.

His only goal was to bait the rank and file trying to make this thread into a monumental monster which he succeeded in doing.

Of course, that has nothing to do with actual knowledge of the game.

[coastal]

Watching you guys scramble to save face is embarrassing.

[feldspar]

Watching you guys scramble to save face is embarrassing.

You SHOULD be embarrassed.

[pmoon6]

Watching you guys scramble to save face is embarrassing.Save face? We watched you reverse your opinion and then change It back to the original when it suited you.

You should run for the Florida State Senate because you flip flop with the best of them.

You should also change your username to "Mr. Waffles".

[Ginger Vitis]

You should also change your username to "Mr. Waffles".

Mr.Waffles changed his mind around this time last year about 100x whether or not he liked the concept of tanking or not.. Oh look Jack Eichel is in a bit of a slump and Mr. Waffles is basically implying Eichel is the most overrated prospect ever.. I wonder what Mr.Waffles will say once Eichel starts getting points in bunches again

[pmoon6]

Mr.Waffles changed his mind around this time last year about 100x whether or not he liked the concept of tanking or not.. Oh look Jack Eichel is in a bit of a slump and Mr. Waffles is basically implying Eichel is the most overrated prospect ever.. I wonder what Mr.Waffles will say once Eichel starts getting points in bunches againWow, he does it with the Sabres as well?

Maybe he should just stick with the Tampa Bay Lightning and the Bucs.

They also should have a "shoot on sight" order for him at the Erie County line.

[coastal]

I'm glad you guys are all trying to get your yuks... but this is serious business.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2013/05/18/mario-williams-suicidal-texts-erin-marzouki-engagement-ring/2268733/

[feldspar]

I'm glad you guys are all trying to get your yuks... but this is serious business.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2013/05/18/mario-williams-suicidal-texts-erin-marzouki-engagement-ring/2268733/

http://i0.wp.com/gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/realkid_original_crop_north.jpg?resize=400%2C300

[Joe Fo Sho]

I'm glad you guys are all trying to get your yuks... but this is serious business.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2013/05/18/mario-williams-suicidal-texts-erin-marzouki-engagement-ring/2268733/

Sounds like someone is a little peanut butter and jelly that Mario didn't put a ring on his finger.

[coastal]

zing

[Yasgur's Farm]

http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/eff7df7e-5e7a-428c-8e4b-783530e6291c/ac595b11-39f9-47fe-83f4-59835300fd75_560_420.jpg

[coastal]

Olukais r the only flip flops in this house.

try again.

[chernobylwraiths]

Dear Zoners,

I hereby make this solemn promise to each and everyone of you... the moment Mario Williams is cut, I will never post in this thread again. Why you may ask... well quite simply because it will be done. This loser of a "football player" will no longer be a part of the team I love. As such... who cares wtf he is doing or what he's done. It will be time to move on.

All along my point has been that The signing of Mario Williams to the highest defensive player contract in the history of the NFL to a guy that was providing diminishing returns year upon year was not a wise move. Not just that... but once Mario was in town he was saying things like "I'm not here to be a leader."

Those were huge red flags.

in three years here, Schwartz was able to get one "decent" year out of him... but if everyone is truly being honest... he took games off that year... not just plays... but games.

And now this quote from a teammate...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/01/unnamed-of-course-bill-mario-williams-has-totally-checked-out/

“It’s been clear to me that Mario doesn’t care about anybody but himself,” the teammate said. “He followed that up by not giving any effort during the season and complaining about the scheme instead of manning up and saying he played like crap and doesn’t care.”

the only thing I ask as the book on Mario "Super Fool's Gold" Williams comes to an end, is for everyone to see him for what he was and is... a super talented DE who is a career pay check collector... not a warrior... and certainly not a HOF DE ala Deacon Jones, Bruce Smith, and Reggie White.

For as difficult as it is for some of you to admit due to how shiny he may seem... he is what I've said from the beginning...

Fool's Gold.

tide out.

A true man of his word

[pmoon6]

I'm glad you guys are all trying to get your yuks... but this is serious business.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2013/05/18/mario-williams-suicidal-texts-erin-marzouki-engagement-ring/2268733/:rofl:

This whole thread is a gigantic Yukfest.

- - - Updated - - -


A true homo of his wordFixed

[feldspar]

Yeah, he's a true homo alright, especially if he thinks this thread actually means something...anything at all...

[pmoon6]

Olukais r the only flip flops in this house.

try again.Are those like the Louis Vitton of flip flops?

Makes sense, they go fabulously with all your purses.

[coastal]

70 pages sack suckers

[feldspar]

70 pages sack suckers

Congratulations.

But I don't suck sacs, I kick them. Which reminds me...what are you doing later?

[Yasgur's Farm]

Olukais r the only flip flops in this house.

try again.http://americablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/gay-flip-flops1-186x200.jpg

[pmoon6]

70 pages sack suckers:rofl: Yeah, major accomplishment.

However, you're wrong. Making fun of you while participating in your thread doesn't make one a "sack sucker".

We couldn't anyway because you have no sack.

[pmoon6]

Congratulations.

But I don't suck sacs, I kick them. Which reminds me...what are you doing later?Mario's coming to Tampa for a visit. Coastal will be too busy standing in line for a "drop the soap" session with the future Buccaneer. He will make him feel loved.

[coastal]

lol.

not.

[YardRat]

This thread needs to stay alive at least through the next season or two.

[pmoon6]

This thread needs to stay alive at least through the next season or two.How about until the Bills win the Super Bowl?

[sudzy]

How about until the Bills win the Super Bowl?

But, none of us will be around then.

[mdcas22]

the the heck
:wtf:

[pmoon6]

But, none of us will be around then.I knew someone would take the setup.

[Buckets]

Thank God he was cut. Maybe this stupid thread will end!

[feldspar]

Thank God he was cut. Maybe this stupid thread will end!

Never underestimate douche-baggery on the Internet.

[stuckincincy]

A dead dog gets another kick...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/25503327/after-further-review-heres-the-proof-that-mario-williams-quit-on-bills

[swiper]

How about until the Bills win the Super Bowl?

One of the best suggestions I've ever seen you make. LOL.

[swiper]

Never underestimate douche-baggery on the Internet.

Takes a douche bag to know a douche bag.

[feldspar]

Takes a douche bag to know a douche bag.

I don't know you, nor do I want to.

[coastal]

look at all u derps go?!

17682

[Joe Fo Sho]

look at all u derps go?!

I like the use of the question mark, it really shows how ******ed you are. Were you the one taking that picture?

[Mace]

look at all u derps go?!

17682

Ok so I took the back corner seat, I was there early when the doors opened.

[feldspar]

If any of this was actually funny, that would be another story...

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Rapoport says the Fins are bringing him in for a visit. Coastal can take his road show to the Dolphin board when that happens

[ParanoidAndroid]

Miami is where he's always wanted to be. Fine with me, at this point in his career.

[coastal]

No state income tax... his career is all about the financial transactions... and that's how Russ Brandon views Bills fans.

[pmoon6]

If any of this was actually funny, that would be another story...Aw c'mon. The banter is a little amusing.

[Mike13]

Rapoport says the Fins are bringing him in for a visit. Coastal can take his road show to the Dolphin board when that happens

Insurance for when OV walks.

[feldspar]

Aw c'mon. The banter is a little amusing.

Maybe, but that's only because it's so ****ing annoying.

I'd compare it to Gilbert Gottfried at best...him I could live with, but this is beyond...

[sudzy]

Maybe, but that's only because it's so ****ing annoying.

I'd compare it to Gilbert Gottfried at best...him I could live with, but this is beyond...

This thread has been around for almost 4 years. Everyone knows what it is by now. If it annoys you, then maybe you should avoid clicking on it.

[feldspar]

This thread has been around for almost 4 years. Everyone knows what it is by now. If it annoys you, then maybe you should avoid clicking on it.

I'll do whatever I please, Susie.

[swiper]

I'll do whatever I please, Susie.

Besides you're so good at playing the whiny little *****. Just getting more practice here.

[swiper]

I don't know you, nor do I want to.

Feelings mutual. Rubio mixed up your hands with Trump's.

[feldspar]

Besides you're so good at playing the whiny little *****. Just getting more practice here.

Go suck a sack, Knob Goblin.

Why not . That's the way we talk in thread is, right? Or, in your case, constantly.


Feelings mutual.

Who the **** was talking to you in the first place, Butch? Are you speaking for coastal because his mouth is too full of come?

Tell 'em all how it is, Big Guy.

I bet you troll YouTube and tell people they should kill themselves, don't you?

[swiper]

I can hear your momma calling you for dinner.

You'd better get home before she beats you again.

[feldspar]

I can hear your momma calling you for dinner.

You'd better get home before she beats you again.

Brilliant post.

Somebody's momma is calling me, but it ain't mine. Know what I'm saying, hot- **** Butch?

You are such an incredible ass, and always portrayed yourself that way, mikgaes. What's-a-matter, tiny penis?

Now go let 'em have it on YouTube, and have a good day.

[YardRat]

Settle down you two, your binkies will be out of the dishwasher in a couple of minutes.

[feldspar]

Settle down you two, your binkies will be out of the dishwasher in a couple of minutes.

Yes, Papa.

But Mario is visiting the Dolphins today, apparently.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/05/mario-williams-visiting-the-dolphins-today/

I'd pity the fools on the Dolphins boards if they're paying Suh AND Mario this kind of money. On the other hand, our best buddy coastal actually lives in Florida, so maybe someone will have his pea-brained head.

[coastal]

I'd pity the fools on the Dolphins boards if they're paying Mario this kind of money.thats how I feel about you people.

[feldspar]

thats how I feel about you people.

"Us people."

Lol

You're probably not even insightful enough to know how I feel about you...

And what happened to your promise of never posting in this thread once Mario is gone? You're a welcher on top of everything else, huh?

[coastal]

17685

[feldspar]

17685

Blah, blah, blah...

Do you remember your "solemn promise?"


Dear Zoners,

I hereby make this solemn promise to each and everyone of you... the moment Mario Williams is cut, I will never post in this thread again.

..as if what you think is of key importance.

Hmm...yet you are still here posting extremely cute things. Explain.

Now watcha gonna try and crawl up everyone's ass about. Watcha gonna project on "us people" to hold us in contempt over, smart guy? Of course, if you are a man of your word, you won't reply in this thread...but us people already know that you aren't a man of your word and are full of **** in the first place.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Blah, blah, blah...

Do you remember your "solemn promise?"



..as if what you think is of key importance.

Hmm...yet you are still here posting extremely cute things. Explain.

Now watcha gonna try and crawl up everyone's ass about. Watcha gonna project on "us people" to hold us in contempt over, smart guy? Of course, if you are a man of your word, you won't reply in this thread...but us people already know that you aren't a man of your word and are full of **** in the first place.

C'mon now, the guy must not be getting enough attention at home. Blondie must be on vacation or blowing the neighbor, I wonder how close he lives to Mario.

[sudzy]

Miami has just struck "fools gold" for 8 million a year.

[YardRat]

lol

[The last buffalo fan]

Miami has just struck "fools gold" for 8 million a year.

Gracias a Dios!

[Mr. Cynical]

Feels like I just passed a $100M gall stone. Ahhhhh.

[coastal]

You just can't make this up.

[feldspar]

You just can't make this up.

I made a solemn promise not to.

[pmoon6]

Now the Phins will have to make a decision on Oliver Vernon and Cameron Wake. Wake had more sacks in half as many games as Williams and Vernon had more sacks and three times as many tackles.

Looks to me that the Dolphins would have been better served signing their own players.

[Blondie]

C'mon now, the guy must not be getting enough attention at home. Blondie must be on vacation or blowing the neighbor, I wonder how close he lives to Mario.

I can ASSURE you, that he gets PLENTY of attention at home .... Coastal was a smart man and married a chick what will throw a MAJOR ****ing temper tantrum when she does not get his attention... now go back to playing with your dick, it appears its all you got :D

[Joe Fo Sho]

I can ASSURE you, that he gets PLENTY of attention at home .... Coastal was a smart man and married a chick what will throw a MAJOR ****ing temper tantrum when she does not get his attention... now go back to playing with your dick, it appears its all you got :D

Whoa, where have you been this whole time? I'm surprised you found some free time to post now that Mario is in town, how's your jaw?


Coastal was a smart man and married a chick what will throw a MAJOR ****ing temper tantrum when she does not get his attention...

That honestly sounds like a miserable situation.

[pmoon6]

Coastal was a smart man and married a chick what will throw a MAJOR ****ing temper tantrum when she does not get his attention.Portrait of the new age American, especially American women.

Still children even in their 40's.

[BertSquirtgum]

https://media.giphy.com/media/RSFb7xZMCNg8U/giphy.gif

[Topas]

Bert, that is ... ehrrm ... irritating, to say the least

[Historian]

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12814273_464242993765227_3505565360392099571_n.jpg?oh=df6c9c22ed8e0c0210fb9dfc99f7288a&oe=579387E8

[Historian]

this has never been about Mario "Super Fool's Gold" Williams. This has always been about the decision making process that went into making him the highest paid defensive player in the franchise's and NFL's history.

We went all in on this guy and what was the return...

...16 years and counting. It's that simple.


If you want to make this thread about my hate or obsession with one person... that person isn't Mario Williams.

its Russ Brandon.

he has sold you the Fool's Gold and pawned it off as real.

All ive done is try to help educate you all as to the reality of what you bought hook line and sinker.



This is the best post in this thread. (I edited it down for brevity)

I haven't commented on the Mario situation, because I was taking a little time to digest it all, while focusing on hockey, but the crux of the matter for me, was that you could take more than a handful of names over the last sixteen seasons, and replace them with "Mario Williams".

Some examples:

Drew Bledsoe
Terrell Owens
Lawyer Malloy
Derrick Dockery
Kawika Mitchell


Then there's the draft picks:

Donte Whitner
JP Losman
Willis McGahee
Chris Kelsay
Leodis McDumbass
CJ Spiller
Torell Troup
Aaron Maybin

Then there's just the plain bad luck:

Kevin Everett

Look at some of those names. Players we went "all out on. Think about not just their performance, but the alternatives that we did NOT take because of them.

Mario Williams is just the latest in a very long string of splash signings, all in the name of selling tickets, to cover the fact that this has been a very bad football team.

The irony, in my mind, is that despite all this, ticket sales are again reaching record numbers. At this point I don't think anyone even cares about what goes on on the field.

They're just there for a party.

I'm with Coastal on this one, because of the pattern. Everyone misfires once and a while, but sixteen years of it, in the era of free agency, is unconscionable, IMO.

At some point even the Pegulas are going to tire of it.

The front office needs gutted, as does the scouting staff.

On a personal note, when your kid asks you, "Were the Bills ever any good?" it's kind of sad.

As bad as the '70's were, we at least had some successes.

The last twenty years have been painful...not to mention costly.

[Joe Fo Sho]

This is the best post in this thread. (I edited it down for brevity)

Kind of humorous that the best post in this thread still had to be edited.


Here's a thread I started on a different site... I was bombed with hate over it.



Im still wondering why... 1 tackle for a million dollars...

can I get a woot woot?!

Here's the worst post in this thread, the very first one. It also includes the worst sentence in this thread, which is also the very first one.

Why would someone who was 'bombed with hate' somewhere else post the exact same thread here? What would be the point? This whole thread has been a big jerk off.


I haven't commented on the Mario situation, because I was taking a little time to digest it all, while focusing on hockey, but the crux of the matter for me, was that you could take more than a handful of names over the last sixteen seasons, and replace them with "Mario Williams".

Some examples:

Drew Bledsoe
Terrell Owens
Lawyer Malloy
Derrick Dockery
Kawika Mitchell


Then there's the draft picks:

Donte Whitner
JP Losman
Willis McGahee
Chris Kelsay
Leodis McDumbass
CJ Spiller
Torell Troup
Aaron Maybin

Then there's just the plain bad luck:

Kevin Everett

Look at some of those names. Players we went "all out on. Think about not just their performance, but the alternatives that we did NOT take because of them.

Mario Williams is just the latest in a very long string of splash signings, all in the name of selling tickets, to cover the fact that this has been a very bad football team.

The irony, in my mind, is that despite all this, ticket sales are again reaching record numbers. At this point I don't think anyone even cares about what goes on on the field.

They're just there for a party.

I'm with Coastal on this one, because of the pattern. Everyone misfires once and a while, but sixteen years of it, in the era of free agency, is unconscionable, IMO.

At some point even the Pegulas are going to tire of it.

The front office needs gutted, as does the scouting staff.

On a personal note, when your kid asks you, "Were the Bills ever any good?" it's kind of sad.

As bad as the '70's were, we at least had some successes.

The last twenty years have been painful...not to mention costly.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to understand that the front office of a team that hasn't made the playoffs in 16 years has made some bad decisions. However, you can't fault the current front office for making the decisions that were made 8 years ago. They should be criticized for the more recent bad decisions.

[Historian]

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to understand that the front office of a team that hasn't made the playoffs in 16 years has made some bad decisions. However, you can't fault the current front office for making the decisions that were made 8 years ago. They should be criticized for the more recent bad decisions.

And that's the whole point to this thread. Just the latest in a long line of high profile misfires.

Go into the thread I just bumped up for you, and read my post #82.

These are the people I'm talking about. (and the service numbers come right out of the 2015 media guide) not Rex, Doug, etc.

This is part of the power structure that has been in place since at least Polian.

[sukie]

And that's the whole point to this thread. Just the latest in a long line of high profile misfires.

Go into the thread I just bumped up for you, and read my post #82.

These are the people I'm talking about. (and the service numbers come right out of the 2015 media guide) not Rex, Doug, etc.

This is part of the power structure that has been in place since at least Polian.

How does one misfire without at least firing? Seems like a hindsight thing.

[swiper]

How does one misfire without at least firing? Seems like a hindsight thing.

If I had eyes in the back of my head I would have never let the owner of Roman Cafe catch me stealing that roll of TP from the men's room.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

And that's the whole point to this thread. Just the latest in a long line of high profile misfires.

If every player we sign is going to have to carry the weight of 16 years of missed expectations, then naturally bitterness and threads like this are going to result.

He was brought it to get sacks and he did. He was brought in to improve our defense and he did. When he stopped doing that, we cut him.

[feldspar]

Portrait of the new age American, especially American women.

Still children even in their 40's.

Yeah, she throws temper tantrums when she doesn't get his attention and considers this a positive thing? It's childish, like you allude to...that's obvious.

So it really comes as no surprise that coastal NEEDS his attention as well...thus this thread going on 1,500 posts. He had one on the Range that was gigantic too. Why? "Look at me. Look at me!"

If you get attention, that makes you very important and special, right? Doesn't even matter HOW you get said attention either to "those people" apparently.

[coastal]

If every player we sign is going to have to carry the weight of 16 years of missed expectations, then naturally bitterness and threads like this are going to result.

He was brought it to get sacks and he did. He was brought in to improve our defense and he did. When he stopped doing that, we cut him.
You're missing the point... which is suprising to me because you're one of the smarter posters out here IMO.

first and only question and to address your statement about Mario being brought in for sacks and please answer this as honestly as you can (putting aside all of the BS in this thread)... was it wise for a franchise without an NFL playoffs starting caliber QB to make a guy like Mario, who had to that point in his career promising but inconsistent production, the highest paid player in the history of the franchise and the highest paid defensive player in the history of the game... to as you put it.... get sacks?

My answer to that is no and throughout this whole thread I've provided snipets as to why.

honestly I can't figure out why this is a hard concept to get.

[feldspar]

You're missing the point... which is suprising to me because you're one of the smarter posters out here IMO.

first and only question and to address your statement about Mario being brought in for sacks and please answer this as honestly as you can (putting aside all of the BS in this thread)... was it wise for a franchise without an NFL playoffs starting caliber QB to make a guy like Mario, who had to that point in his career promising but inconsistent production, the highest paid player in the history of the franchise and the highest paid defensive player in the history of the game... to as you put it.... get sacks?

My answer to that is no and throughout this whole thread I've provided snipets as to why.

honestly I can't figure out why this is a hard concept to get.

I solemnly promise that you should shut the **** up, finally.

It's over, Sport.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

You're missing the point... which is suprising to me because you're one of the smarter posters out here IMO.

first and only question and to address your statement about Mario being brought in for sacks and please answer this as honestly as you can (putting aside all of the BS in this thread)... was it wise for a franchise without an NFL playoffs starting caliber QB to make a guy like Mario, who had to that point in his career promising but inconsistent production, the highest paid player in the history of the franchise and the highest paid defensive player in the history of the game... to as you put it.... get sacks?

My answer to that is no and throughout this whole thread I've provided snipets as to why.

honestly I can't figure out why this is a hard concept to get.

I think you are creating a false choice. Improving the defense does not mean we lose the chance to find a franchise QB. What franchise QB did signing Mario cost us? The one you keep bringing up is Manning, but we were never a possibility for him.

[YardRat]

You're missing the point... which is suprising to me because you're one of the smarter posters out here IMO.

first and only question and to address your statement about Mario being brought in for sacks and please answer this as honestly as you can (putting aside all of the BS in this thread)... was it wise for a franchise without an NFL playoffs starting caliber QB to make a guy like Mario, who had to that point in his career promising but inconsistent production, the highest paid player in the history of the franchise and the highest paid defensive player in the history of the game... to as you put it.... get sacks?

My answer to that is no and throughout this whole thread I've provided snipets as to why.

honestly I can't figure out why this is a hard concept to get.

It's a false concept that, if anything, was proven wrong once again by Denver this season. NFL teams can win championships with less than stellar QBing if they have a dominant defense. Anybody that doesn't acknowledge that Manning was a thin shell of his former self, basically a non-factor in the playoffs and Super Bowl, and Osweiler was middling just isn't paying attention. Buffalo actually was going about the building process the right way this time, until they fubared everything with the Wrecks hire last off season.

They built a dominant defense, and that started with Mario.

People should be frustrated with the lack of playoffs. People should be frustrated with hiring Wrecks. People should understand that Buffalo very could well have been Denver this season, with the established state of the defense and especially considering the 'upgrades' on offense made last off season. People shouldn't be pissed that the team threw a boatload of money at a possible future HOFer that actually (mostly) delivered what was expected, they should be pissed that they had actually gotten to the point where something was built...something was ready for success...and they flushed everything down the drain by hiring a buffoon to run the show from the sidelines.

If my choices are paying Mario or paying Wrecks, I'm ponying up for Williams. Every. Damn, Time.

[coastal]

I think you are creating a false choice. Improving the defense does not mean we lose the chance to find a franchise QB. What franchise QB did signing Mario cost us? The one you keep bringing up is Manning, but we were never a possibility for him.
Again you're still missing the point.

Try this... forget Mario Williams even exists and go back to the Drew Bledsoe trade.

what team won that trade?

[feldspar]

Again you're still missing the point.

Try this... forget Mario Williams even exists and go back to the Drew Bledsoe trade.

what team won that trade?

Maybe at post 3,000, after your wife climbs offs your dick, those people will finally get the point.

To you, I make this solemn promise.

[YardRat]

Again you're still missing the point.

Try this... forget Mario Williams even exists and go back to the Drew Bledsoe trade.

what team won that trade?


What team won the Hughes/Sheppard trade?
What team won the McCoy/Alonso trade?
If Cleveland offered the Bills Cameron Erving, Ibreheim Campbell, and Justin Gilbert for Sammy Watkins would you take it?

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Again you're still missing the point

I understand your point. It's not a complicated argument. I disagree with its premises and your conclusion.


what team won that trade?

The Pats did. How is this relevant to the current thread?

[mysticsoto]

It's a false concept that, if anything, was proven wrong once again by Denver this season. NFL teams can win championships with less than stellar QBing if they have a dominant defense. Anybody that doesn't acknowledge that Manning was a thin shell of his former self, basically a non-factor in the playoffs and Super Bowl, and Osweiler was middling just isn't paying attention. Buffalo actually was going about the building process the right way this time, until they fubared everything with the Wrecks hire last off season.

They built a dominant defense, and that started with Mario.

People should be frustrated with the lack of playoffs. People should be frustrated with hiring Wrecks. People should understand that Buffalo very could well have been Denver this season, with the established state of the defense and especially considering the 'upgrades' on offense made last off season. People shouldn't be pissed that the team threw a boatload of money at a possible future HOFer that actually (mostly) delivered what was expected, they should be pissed that they had actually gotten to the point where something was built...something was ready for success...and they flushed everything down the drain by hiring a buffoon to run the show from the sidelines.

If my choices are paying Mario or paying Wrecks, I'm ponying up for Williams. Every. Damn, Time.

I sort of agree in that I don't like that we've essentially dismantled what was a very strong defense - for no reason other than the coach wants to implement a different scheme. I'm usually against those types of moves. I believe schemes should reflect personnel and not the other way around which is what Rex is doing. Normally I prefer a 3-4, but we didn't have the personnel for it and more importantly, we had a very strong 4-3...why change it?

I'm just hoping that Rex can quickly get a 3-4 alignment running smoothly and well. But I have a nagging underlying belief that he won't and Buffalo will continue the playoff drought. I hope I'm wrong...

On a sidenote, I've been critical of Whaley, but he's been having a good offseason!

[Pinkerton Security]

Can we delete this thread for all of time so I never have to see it pop up again?

[coastal]

How is this relevant to the current thread?we will get there.

first... what did it say that NE would be willing to trade their "franchise quarterback" to a division rival?

[coastal]

What team won the Hughes/Sheppard trade?
What team won the McCoy/Alonso trade?
If Cleveland offered the Bills Cameron Erving, Ibreheim Campbell, and Justin Gilbert for Sammy Watkins would you take it?
Clearly, intelligence isn't a requirement for the COTRM's Sargent at Arms position.

- - - Updated - - -


Can we delete this thread for all of time so I never have to see it pop up again?
Please leave my thread D-list poster.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

we will get there.

first... what did it say that NE would be willing to trade their "franchise quarterback" to a division rival?

It said that he wasn't their franchise quarterback any more, because the backup had just won a Super Bowl.

[coastal]

It said that he wasn't their franchise quarterback any more.true.

it also said that they felt comfortable in making the decision to trade him to a division rival... a team they would face twice a year and could possibly keep them from achieving their goals moving forward.

would that be an accurate statement?

[IlluminatusUIUC]

true.

it also said that they felt comfortable in making the decision to trade him to a division rival... a team they would face twice a year and could possibly keep them from achieving their goals moving forward.

would that be an accurate statement?

Yes

[coastal]

Yeswouldn't it stand to reason then that the decision makers at OBD should have been asking themselves... is there a reason the team this franchise quarterback just played with is willing to let him go to a division rival?

you know... like its a red flag?

[IlluminatusUIUC]

wouldn't it stand to reason then that the decision makers at OBD should have been asking themselves... is there a reason the team this franchise quarterback just played with is willing to let him go to a division rival?

you know... like its a red flag?

I'm sure they asked themselves that exact question. And biggest reasons were apparent to all: He had one of, if not the largest contract in the league at the time and the backup on a rookie deal was the reigning Super Bowl MVP. I don't remember what Bledsoe's trade market was at the time either, it's possible that we were the best offer because of that contract situation.

[coastal]

I'm sure they asked themselves that exact question. And biggest reasons were apparent to all: He had one of, if not the largest contract in the league at the time and the backup on a rookie deal was the reigning Super Bowl MVP. I don't remember what Bledsoe's trade market was at the time either, it's possible that we were the best offer because of that contract situation.
and now in retrospect that was admittedly not a good trade for the Bills.

Bledsoe turned out to be a turnover machine and had serious in-correctable flaws in his game.

The red flags were certainly there, but they were either ignored or rationalized and butts in seats happened as a result!

Turning back to Mario and post #1 in this thread...

Tackles
2007 - 59
2008 - 53
2009 - 43
2010 - 28
2011 - 11


Sacks
2007 - 14
2008 - 12
2009 - 9
2010 - 8.5
2011 - 5

Those are diminishing return stats... injuries or not. And Houston who drafted this guy 1st overall... let him go into free agency without a fight... for nothing...

and yet the decision makers at OBD were so steadfast in their decision making that they felt making Mario the highest paid defensive player in the history of the game and the highest paid player in the history of the franchise was a solid football decision.

[coastal]

and just to add some fun to this thread... lol.

17687

[BertSquirtgum]

( o )( o )

[IlluminatusUIUC]

and now in retrospect that was admittedly not a good trade for the Bills.

Bledsoe turned out to be a turnover machine and had serious in-correctable flaws in his game.

Bledsoe's turnover rates were right in line with his career averages, and not out of place for a QB in the early 2000s. It was his sack rates that were a problem, and they thought they could improve that by drafting Mike Williams.

Oops.


Turning back to Mario and post #1 in this thread...
...
Those are diminishing return stats... injuries or not. And Houston who drafted this guy 1st overall... let him go into free agency without a fight... for nothing...

and yet the decision makers at OBD were so steadfast in their decision making that they felt making Mario the highest paid defensive player in the history of the game and the highest paid player in the history of the franchise was a solid football decision.

Except, despite the "diminishing returns" stats, he went right back to his double-digit sack totals and stayed there through three DCs and three new schemes. By year four (and his fourth DC, and his fourth scheme) he said "**** it" and took the year off. That i terrible of course, but it doesn't invalidate the three years he gave us.

[sukie]

and now in retrospect that was admittedly not a good trade for the Bills.

Bledsoe turned out to be a turnover machine and had serious in-correctable flaws in his game.

The red flags were certainly there, but they were either ignored or rationalized and butts in seats happened as a result!

Turning back to Mario and post #1 in this thread...

Tackles
2007 - 59
2008 - 53
2009 - 43
2010 - 28
2011 - 11


Sacks
2007 - 14
2008 - 12
2009 - 9
2010 - 8.5
2011 - 5

Those are diminishing return stats... injuries or not. And Houston who drafted this guy 1st overall... let him go into free agency without a fight... for nothing...

and yet the decision makers at OBD were so steadfast in their decision making that they felt making Mario the highest paid defensive player in the history of the game and the highest paid player in the history of the franchise was a solid football decision.




Yeah I see what you are saying for his time in Houston and the silliness of the cash thrown at him but his "return" wasn't diminishing in Buffalo the first three years. 10.5 13. 14.5 sacks and tackles 37, 28, 36 the scheme hurt and his attitude towards it also hurt last year. Definitely not worth paying him anymore at his age. Miami is the fool even at 8 mil... He isn't replacing Vernon and Wake is not gonna be the same after the achilles. Miami's pass rush got weaker than the start of last season.

[Historian]

Okay, take this with a huge grain of salt but....

My dentist takes care of some of the Bills staff that live in the area.

They believe that the Bills defense is ready to rock and roll this year, thanks to cutting Mario.

He was described as uncooperative with the coaches, sometimes bordering on petulant, as if to say, "How dare you ask a veteran like me to do that?"

Again, take it for what it's worth, but the subtext is clear, that the Bills wanted to unload he and his salary.

[SpikedLemonade]

Okay, take this with a huge grain of salt but....

My dentist takes care of some of the Bills staff that live in the area.

They believe that the Bills defense is ready to rock and roll this year, thanks to cutting Mario.

He was described as uncooperative with the coaches, sometimes bordering on petulant, as if to say, "How dare you ask a veteran like me to do that?"

Again, take it for what it's worth, but the subtext is clear, that the Bills wanted to unload he and his salary.

Can we replace Rex with your dentist?

[coastal]

Okay, take this with a huge grain of salt but....

My dentist takes care of some of the Bills staff that live in the area.

They believe that the Bills defense is ready to rock and roll this year, thanks to cutting Mario.

He was described as uncooperative with the coaches, sometimes bordering on petulant, as if to say, "How dare you ask a veteran like me to do that?"

Again, take it for what it's worth, but the subtext is clear, that the Bills wanted to unload he and his salary.amd the subtext that Mario is career paycheck collector

[Historian]

Can we replace Rex with your dentist?

Rofl...he's actually a hockey coach.

[SpikedLemonade]

Rofl...he's actually a hockey coach.

Those people are asswipes.

[Historian]

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13217215_818356284937703_4274004660759580532_o.jpg

[cookie G]

Okay, take this with a huge grain of salt but....

My dentist takes care of some of the Bills staff that live in the area.

They believe that the Bills defense is ready to rock and roll this year, thanks to cutting Mario.

He was described as uncooperative with the coaches, sometimes bordering on petulant, as if to say, "How dare you ask a veteran like me to do that?"

Again, take it for what it's worth, but the subtext is clear, that the Bills wanted to unload he and his salary.

mmhmmm..that's definitely a huge grain of salt statement.

I wouldn't expect a member of his staff to say something like "that was the worst defensive coaching in a decade, but we're hoping to bounce back"

They need a scapegoat.

[Mr. Pink]

When the defense performs just as poorly this year as last and when Mario goes out and has another 10+ sack season on a different team, I wonder what people will say.

[trapezeus]

the same guy who started this thread is going to say how he was right all along by not being right at all...there are 75 pages of that nonsense thus far. though I don't think Mario will be that good. something about Miami and high priced free agents seems to strip people of all their skill.

[Blondie]

When the defense performs just as poorly this year as last and when Mario goes out and has another 10+ sack season on a different team, I wonder what people will say.

At least the bills will save some money while they still suck ..
:D

[SpikedLemonade]

At least the bills will save some money while they still suck ..
:D


OK

I finally figured it out.

I always thought it was about Coastal being sexually frustrated.

Now I understand that you need to peg (is that the right word for putting an object in a man's anus?) Coastal in the ass.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnboa0uV8Co

[coastal]

Lmao

[Blondie]

Do I eve want to know how you found that video?

[coastal]

Do I eve want to know how you found that video?
Pigmy sex games?

thats in his top 10 searches.. bank on it.

[Blondie]

Pigmy sex games?

thats in his top 10 searches.. bank on it.

Do I dare ask how.you know.this..

[SpikedLemonade]

Do I dare ask how.you know.this..

You have no right to ask this question.

Please accept who you are...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg

[Mr. Cynical]

OMG.

This. Thread. Won't. Die.

(and I even agree 100% with it, but wow....this isn't a dead horse, is a pile of dust getting beaten)

[gr8slayer]

How is this thread still going? This has to be the longest Bills related thread in the history of the Zone.

[SpikedLemonade]

Pigmy sex games?

thats in his top 10 searches.. bank on it.

Now you criticize the "research" I do to properly respond here?

[pmoon6]

How is this thread still going? This has to be the longest Bills related thread in the history of the Zone.That was Coastal's plan in the first place. Notice how he resurrects it when it has waned for a couple weeks.

He's part of the "It's all aboot meeeee!!!!" generation.

Of course, it has a new dynamic. Spike and Coastal get to play grabass for another fifty pages.

[SpikedLemonade]

That was Coastal's plan in the first place. Notice how he resurrects it when it has waned for a couple weeks.

He's part of the "It's all aboot meeeee!!!!" generation.

Of course, it has a new dynamic. Spike and Coastal get to play grabass for another fifty pages.

Who pooped in your oatmeal this morning old man?