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  • Mike
    Registered User
    • Jan 2009
    • 3805

    How to Fix the Bills

    The answer is quite simple. Simple indeed, however the implementation is not. Two major factors are needed, competence and luck. Here is a step by step guid to fixing the Bills:

    1. Bills bottom out: Historically teams that stay in the 6-10 to 9-7 range over an extended time period don't become contenders. In the 60's the Steelers were bottom feeders however this allowed them to draft the players needed to become the team of the 70's. In the 70's the 49ers were a joke, complete and utter joke but this allowed them to draft the top talent and become the team of the 80's. In the late 80's the Cowboys were dreadful, however this allowed them to draft the players needed to become the team of the 90s and the story goes on. So, the Bills need to take a page out of the Steelers, 49ers, and Cowboys playbook and bottom out.

    2. FO/Coach: There are no dynasties that were void of great coaching. There are two ways to get a great coach: 1. Hire a great coach ala Bill Parcels 2. Hire a great prospect - ala Walsh, etc (some luck needed as for every great coach there are many more great prospects that never materialized)

    3. QB: use top pick to get the much needed franchise QB. Most Hall of Fame QBs are first overall picks, second most are first rounders, third are second rounders, and I believe outside the second round there are only 2 HOF QBs. So what the moral of the story? First round first pick QBs have dominated the NFL.

    4. Build: Build team around QB, focus on lines, wr, cb, te, rb, etc...

    * We have been circling the wagon in the worst way, getting one retread coach after another. Its time they get a top GM, and then a top coach. This will go a very very long way, just look at the 49ers.
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  • Mr. Pink
    Peterman Sucks!
    • Mar 2006
    • 35303

    #2
    Re: How to Fix the Bills

    3. QB point is wrong.

    3 HOF QBs were drafted 1st overall. Bradshaw, Elway, Aikman.

    And 2 outside of the first two rounds total? You need to research more before posting threads to try and prove a point. Joe Montana, Fran Tarkenton and Dan Fouts were all drafted in the 3rd round. Bart Starr was drafted in the 17th round. Warren Moon wasn't even drafted. Go look up guys like Staubach, Blanda, Unitas too.

    While most were first rounders you negate your entire point by not researching before typing.

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    • GreedoII
      Registered User
      • Aug 2007
      • 1301

      #3
      Re: How to Fix the Bills

      if we keep the team as is:

      ball control offense
      QB game manager
      playaction
      run the football
      be like the 49ers and ravens.
      they built the lines now they need to get the LBs.
      attack defense


      Originally posted by Mike View Post
      The answer is quite simple. Simple indeed, however the implementation is not. Two major factors are needed, competence and luck. Here is a step by step guid to fixing the Bills:

      1. Bills bottom out: Historically teams that stay in the 6-10 to 9-7 range over an extended time period don't become contenders. In the 60's the Steelers were bottom feeders however this allowed them to draft the players needed to become the team of the 70's. In the 70's the 49ers were a joke, complete and utter joke but this allowed them to draft the top talent and become the team of the 80's. In the late 80's the Cowboys were dreadful, however this allowed them to draft the players needed to become the team of the 90s and the story goes on. So, the Bills need to take a page out of the Steelers, 49ers, and Cowboys playbook and bottom out.

      2. FO/Coach: There are no dynasties that were void of great coaching. There are two ways to get a great coach: 1. Hire a great coach ala Bill Parcels 2. Hire a great prospect - ala Walsh, etc (some luck needed as for every great coach there are many more great prospects that never materialized)

      3. QB: use top pick to get the much needed franchise QB. Most Hall of Fame QBs are first overall picks, second most are first rounders, third are second rounders, and I believe outside the second round there are only 2 HOF QBs. So what the moral of the story? First round first pick QBs have dominated the NFL.

      4. Build: Build team around QB, focus on lines, wr, cb, te, rb, etc...

      * We have been circling the wagon in the worst way, getting one retread coach after another. Its time they get a top GM, and then a top coach. This will go a very very long way, just look at the 49ers.

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      • MattyNH
        Registered User
        • Nov 2011
        • 253

        #4
        Re: How to Fix the Bills

        The Redskins (yes the Redskins) showed the rest of the league how it was done this offseason. It IS worth all those picks to get a true franchise QB!

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        • Historian
          2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
          • Dec 2002
          • 61897

          #5
          Re: How to Fix the Bills

          It really is time for an ownership change.

          At this point, the nuts are running the asylum, and sadly Wilson in not competent enough to stop them.

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          • jdaltroy5
            Registered User
            • Aug 2012
            • 3227

            #6
            Re: How to Fix the Bills

            1. See if Cowher will take over and keep Chan as the OC.

            2. Get a ******* QB finally.

            3. Get some ******* LBers.

            I know Buddy took over a **** roster, but he completely f'ed up the first draft he had. I think he's done really well since then, so I would definitely leave him where he is. I just wish he would've gotten SOMETHING after the first round so we wouldn't still have so many holes.

            It's time to go all in on a QB. No ifs, ands, or buts. We can't win with Fitz.

            You just can't have sustained success in the NFL with inconsistent QB play.

            The ONLY way I won't flip my lid next April is if Fitz plays consistently the rest of the season. He hasn't done it in 8 years, so I don't see it happening now.

            Unless there's an absolute stud at LB or WR and the top 4 QBs are already off the board, there's no reason whatsoever to pass on a QB next year (ok, I know there were some ifs, ands, or buts).
            Last edited by jdaltroy5; 09-10-2012, 10:04 AM.

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            • gebobs
              One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
              • Sep 2003
              • 11520

              #7
              Re: How to Fix the Bills

              Originally posted by Historian View Post
              It really is time for an ownership change.

              At this point, the nuts are running the asylum, and sadly Wilson in not competent enough to stop them.
              He never was. Wilson hires schmucks and the fans are left hoping a perfect storm happens again a la Polian, Kelly, Levy, Bruce.

              Buddy Nix is a fool and Gailey is a gimmick coach. Gailey won't survive the year and I give it even money that Nix puts that jackalope Wannstadt in Gailey's place.
              Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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              • Extremebillsfan247
                Registered User
                • Sep 2008
                • 3142

                #8
                Re: How to Fix the Bills

                Fixing the Bills isn't very complicated, clean up the mistakes, and you will win more games than you lose. The Bills were their own biggest adversary yesterday. You won't win many games in this league playing like they did. JMO

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                • justasportsfan
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71601

                  #9
                  Re: How to Fix the Bills

                  we need a qb with Fitz's brain and an arm to back it up.
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                  • jdaltroy5
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3227

                    #10
                    Re: How to Fix the Bills

                    Originally posted by gebobs View Post
                    He never was. Wilson hires schmucks and the fans are left hoping a perfect storm happens again a la Polian, Kelly, Levy, Bruce.

                    Buddy Nix is a fool and Gailey is a gimmick coach. Gailey won't survive the year and I give it even money that Nix puts that jackalope Wannstadt in Gailey's place.
                    I wouldn't say Buddy is a fool.

                    We have a lot more talent on this roster than we did 3 years ago.

                    However, I do agree that Wanny is going to be the next coach.

                    Sigh.

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                    • k-oneputt
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 7131

                      #11
                      Re: How to Fix the Bills

                      I don't know where the Bills will end up drafting next year but I'm guessing somewhere in the middle of the pack, AGAIN.

                      We need a qb. They have to do whatever it takes to get one of those top couple of qb's that will go in the top-10.
                      And if that means trading your whole draft to draft the one stud qb prospect then they have to do that. I'm dead serious. trade all your picks in the draft to move up 10 spots if need be to get that qb.
                      If they have to throw in the following years #1 pick, then so be it. Do what it takes.
                      You cannot win big until you get the qb.

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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101313

                        #12
                        Re: How to Fix the Bills

                        Originally posted by MattyNH View Post
                        The Redskins (yes the Redskins) showed the rest of the league how it was done this offseason. It IS worth all those picks to get a true franchise QB!
                        I have to take issue with this. I don't disagree that a franchise QB is worth all those picks. The problem is that there is NEVER any guarantee that any draft pick will be a franchise QB. Remember, RGIII has had one good game. This could still blow up in the Redskins' face. And even if RGIII does turn out to be a franchise QB, it doesn't guarantee that the next hot college QB will be an NFL franchise QB worth the draft picks.
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                        • k-oneputt
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 7131

                          #13
                          Re: How to Fix the Bills

                          There is no guarantee that stud top-10 college qb will be the answer but I can guarantee you one thing, Fitz is not the answer and neither is Jackson whenever he starts playing.
                          They need to make a big bold move for a kid that could be the franchise qb.

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                          • Mahdi
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 10585

                            #14
                            Re: How to Fix the Bills

                            Originally posted by k-oneputt View Post
                            There is no guarantee that stud top-10 college qb will be the answer but I can guarantee you one thing, Fitz is not the answer and neither is Jackson whenever he starts playing.
                            They need to make a big bold move for a kid that could be the franchise qb.
                            There's never a guarantee but you have to make a move and get the QB if Fitz continues anything near what he did yesterday. We will then have to either tank the season and draft high or package everything we have to move up because I think this team is a QB and WR away from being a playoff contender.

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                            • jdaltroy5
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3227

                              #15
                              Re: How to Fix the Bills

                              Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                              There's never a guarantee but you have to make a move and get the QB if Fitz continues anything near what he did yesterday. We will then have to either tank the season and draft high or package everything we have to move up because I think this team is a QB and WR away from being a playoff contender.
                              A stud QB and WR combo is pretty elusive though.

                              It took Detroit about 10 years and at least 5 wasted first round picks before they finally got the right combination.

                              Lots of teams are still spending high picks looking for that combo and coming up short.

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