I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

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  • Haile SpikedLemonade
    • Jun 2024

    I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

    Shouldn't a good offense be simpler than that?

    Does it really require a Harvard educated QB to understand?

    I am tired of hearing how this QB or that QB could never grasp Chan's playbook.

    Perhaps the problem isn't with the QB but with Chan's poor design of an Offense.
  • jimmifli
    Registered User
    • Nov 2006
    • 7827

    #2
    Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

    Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
    Shouldn't a good offense be simpler than that?

    Does it really require a Harvard educated QB to understand?

    I am tired of hearing how this QB or that QB could never grasp Chan's playbook.

    Perhaps the problem isn't with the QB but with Chan's poor design of an Offense.
    Kordell Stewart went to Harvard.

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    • trapezeus
      Legendary Zoner
      • Oct 2004
      • 19525

      #3
      Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

      how complicated can the playbook be. 1st down, throw out pattern. 2nd down, hand off to cj, 3rd down, bubble screen. 4th down punt.

      I picked up the playbook, and i don't even have the playbook.

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      • SpikedLemonade
        • Jun 2024

        #4
        Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

        Originally posted by jimmifli View Post
        Kordell Stewart went to Harvard.
        LOL

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        • jimmifli
          Registered User
          • Nov 2006
          • 7827

          #5
          Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

          Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
          LOL
          What I mean is that Chan is obviously capable of adapting his playbook. He chose not to for Vince and apparently TJax as well (if we believe that's the reason he's inactive).

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          • IlluminatusUIUC
            Registered User
            • Sep 2012
            • 8966

            #6
            Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

            I don't think the PB is 'complex' only for the benefit of the QB, I think it's also 'complex' for the benefit of the wideouts. Rather than a simplified playbook where we have to rely on Jones and Graham beating tight coverage - we just spread them out and run connected routes to spring one of them open.

            If we were in a system without all those smoke and mirrors, I think the weaknesses of our flankers would be seriously exposed.


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            • Turf
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 8378

              #7
              Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

              At least we don't have to worry about Wannys playbook - 3 plays. Learn each one and stand there.
              Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.

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              • Mr. Miyagi
                Lecter's Little *****

                • Sep 2002
                • 53616

                #8
                Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

                Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
                Shouldn't a good offense be simpler than that?

                Does it really require a Harvard educated QB to understand?

                I am tired of hearing how this QB or that QB could never grasp Chan's playbook.

                Perhaps the problem isn't with the QB but with Chan's poor design of an Offense.
                I don't know where you're getting this from. And simpler isn't always better.

                Not sure why you're taking issue with something that you drew out of nowhere. But glad you're upset.

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                • Night Train
                  Retired - On Several Levels
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 33117

                  #9
                  Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

                  I wish Chan would grasp winning.
                  Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                  • Beebe
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 532

                    #10
                    Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

                    Yeah like the defense they made it SIMPLER and that went well.

                    - - - Updated - - -

                    Yeah like the defense they made it SIMPLER and that went well.

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                    • MikeInRoch
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 10446

                      #11
                      Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

                      I sure blame the offensive playbook for the loss to the Titans. Riiiight.
                      "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                      "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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                      • Extremebillsfan247
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 3142

                        #12
                        Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

                        The play book is not complicated. When a player has been in the league long enough, he has seen just about everything. What trips players up isn't the playbook, but the terminology, ie: how the play is translated, called out in a huddle, audibles etc. The terminology is complicated for a reason. You can thank incidents like the Patriots scandal for that. JMO

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                        • mrbojanglezs
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1465

                          #13
                          Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

                          I don't think it's complicated just a lot of combinations. Lot of formations motions and interchangeability with the WR routes.

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                          • RedEyE
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 24661

                            #14
                            Re: I'm Going to Say It -- The Hell With Chan's Complicated Playbook

                            I don't think there is anything wrong with Chan's playbook. Yes, some of his calls at specific times have been questionable, but the running game is 4th best in the league. The problem on offense, plain and simple, is getting more out of the QB position.

                            Fitz's play has been putrid since he signed the contract last season. If Fitz can get back to where he was before signing the contract the offense becomes 10 x better.

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