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  • ghz in pittsburgh
    Registered User
    • Aug 2004
    • 5861
    #1

    CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

    Lost in this NE game is the effective usage of CJ and Fred. I don't think Chan put them in strictly based on two series per. It looked more like based on defense grouping. Fred was very effective doing inside running while CJ was, well, all over the place. I'd like to see this continuing - let Chan decide who to go out there.

    I do want to point out to those who are pining for CJ to get 25 carries. I don't know he'll ever be. Yes he can do between tackles, but Jackson just seems to be better with his power and that un-teachable slight angle changes in tight space. I feel Spiller is close to his full potential as I see a guy now is completely at ease on what he's doing out there. Some people said that great running is like great dancing: instinctive withouting thinking. Spiller is just that fluid out there right now.
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  • gebobs
    One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
    • Sep 2003
    • 11520
    #2
    Re: CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

    Someone better get Fred to remember to hold on to the ball. Too many fumbles lately.
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    • Joe Fo Sho
      Making Spirits Bright
      • Mar 2006
      • 6194
      #3
      Re: CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

      Originally posted by gebobs View Post
      Someone better get Fred to remember to hold on to the ball. Too many fumbles lately.
      I have to give him a pass on his last one...as he was unconscious.
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      • Jaybird
        Registered User
        • Dec 2005
        • 1908
        #4
        Re: CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

        Spiller needs 18 rushing attemps and 10 throws a game minimum.. Fred J is a dime a dozen
        Last edited by Jaybird; 11-12-2012, 02:12 PM.
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        • YardRat
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          • Dec 2004
          • 86146
          #5
          Re: CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

          I thought they used both quite well also.
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          • Thief
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            • Sep 2009
            • 820
            #6
            Re: CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

            They were alternating each series, but resting for a play if they got a big run or took a big shot.
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            • Crisis
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              • Aug 2004
              • 12738
              #7
              Re: CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

              Spiller still needs more touches. 13 is not enough for his production.
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              • Typ0
                honey pie
                • Jul 2002
                • 32592
                #8
                Re: CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

                Seriously anyone that can't see Gailey deserves to be shot or at minimum stoned for not getting the ball in Spillers hands more must also be stoned. Jackson is awesome and at this point in his career every carry he gets he's going to have a chance to get at some point by playing a little longer because he's still strong. But the place Spiller is right now...I have tears in my eyes right now just thinking about him not getting the ball...
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                • Mr. Pink
                  Peterman Sucks!
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 35303
                  #9
                  Re: CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

                  Fred should be more of the short yardage and goal line back now.

                  I also don't think Spiller can handle 25+ carries in a game but I'd like to see him get 12-15 and about 20 touches in total per game.

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                  • Billz_fan
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2614
                    #10
                    Re: CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

                    Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                    Seriously anyone that can't see Gailey deserves to be shot or at minimum stoned for not getting the ball in Spillers hands more must also be stoned. Jackson is awesome and at this point in his career every carry he gets he's going to have a chance to get at some point by playing a little longer because he's still strong. But the place Spiller is right now...I have tears in my eyes right now just thinking about him not getting the ball...
                    I live in NE, Listening to NE sports talk radio today (Felger and Mazz) They made all kinds of comments about Spiller. One that stands out was
                    Thank god Chan Gailey is coach of the Buffalo Bills, CJ Spiller averaged 7+ yards a carry yesterday and got 9 (or whatever it was) carries. If the Bills had given Spiller the ball 20 times the Bills would have won the game
                    They added to that by saying the Patriots have no one who can even run with Spiller, not even close. They asked (in jest) how Gailey even has a job not realizing that Spiller needs to be getting 20-30 touches a game.

                    Now, I hate these NE radio guys and I yell at the radio all the time But I had to agree today.
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                    • Mski
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 6753
                      #11
                      Re: CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

                      sounds like those NE radio guys should be in the Bills FO
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                      • X-Era
                        What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 27670
                        #12
                        Re: CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson

                        Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                        Seriously anyone that can't see Gailey deserves to be shot or at minimum stoned for not getting the ball in Spillers hands more must also be stoned. Jackson is awesome and at this point in his career every carry he gets he's going to have a chance to get at some point by playing a little longer because he's still strong. But the place Spiller is right now...I have tears in my eyes right now just thinking about him not getting the ball...
                        I agree that he should be the feature back with Freddy only spelling him occasionally. Freddy has lost a step and needs to be the backup at this point.

                        CJ, with 7.3 yards a carry, needs to be worked until it shows it's too much. It's a balance to make sure you don't wear him out or get him injured but I'd like to see about 15 to 20 attempts per game instead of 10.

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