2011 Draft... Interesting

[Mahdi]

Just looking over the first round of the draft at this point in time its kind of annoying that we end up with Dareus when guys like:

Watt - PB
Kerrigan - Impact player
AJ Green - PB
Patrick Peterson - Impact player - PB as returner
Julio Jones - Impact player
Aldon Smith - Should have been in PB - 23.5 sacks to date
Nick Fairley - Impact player
Robert Quinn - Impact player - 13.5 sacks to date
Adrian Clayborn - Impact player
Cameron Jordan - Impact player
Phil Taylor - Impact player

I think its interesting because every year we get caught up in what position should be drafted instead of who is worthy of the value of draft position.

When you look at Dareus now, he is what we thought he was, a high floor -- low ceiling player while it seems many of the players picked in the first round around him have passed him in terms of current value.

I hope in our next draft fans will forget about the position of the player and focus only on who deserves to be selected in that spot. Even if we draft another CB I will support it if its determined he is the best player available.

[Skooby]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

Dareus is young, so I'd step away from the ledge until we see another year or so under his belt.

[Mahdi]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

Dareus is young, so I'd step away from the ledge until we see another year or so under his belt.

ummm they're all young... and... how am I "on the ledge"? I'm bringing up a topic...

[Ed]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

If the Bills had passed on Dareus and taken JJ Watt #3 overall, everyone on this board would have lost their minds.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

At least we didn't draft Blaine Gabbert.

[Mahdi]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

If the Bills had passed on Dareus and taken JJ Watt #3 overall, everyone on this board would have lost their minds.

Would have been temporary insanity...

[GingerP]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

If the Bills had passed on Dareus and taken JJ Watt #3 overall, everyone on this board would have lost their minds.

I think they would have gotten over it. Imagine Watt and Kyle Williams playing together?

[Bill Cody]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

If the Bills had passed on Dareus and taken JJ Watt #3 overall, everyone on this board would have lost their minds.

So true. The irony is the one time a white DE is any good we don't draft him

[DraftBoy]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

Im failing to see what the issue is. Dareus is an impact player.

[SquishDaFish]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

i dont see a problem witg dareus. this is one dtaft that i cant argue with. now look at the others and you can do this

[Mahdi]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

Im failing to see what the issue is. Dareus is an impact player.

No he is not an impact player. He has had good games only against a couple of weak teams. Otherwise he hasn't shown up. He is also infrequently seen in the backfield.

Not saying he sucks but he certainly has not had the same impact the others are having.

[X-Era]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

Just looking over the first round of the draft at this point in time its kind of annoying that we end up with Dareus when guys like:

Watt - PB
Kerrigan - Impact player
AJ Green - PB
Patrick Peterson - Impact player - PB as returner
Julio Jones - Impact player
Aldon Smith - Should have been in PB - 23.5 sacks to date
Nick Fairley - Impact player
Robert Quinn - Impact player - 13.5 sacks to date
Adrian Clayborn - Impact player
Cameron Jordan - Impact player
Phil Taylor - Impact player

I think its interesting because every year we get caught up in what position should be drafted instead of who is worthy of the value of draft position.

When you look at Dareus now, he is what we thought he was, a high floor -- low ceiling player while it seems many of the players picked in the first round around him have passed him in terms of current value.

I hope in our next draft fans will forget about the position of the player and focus only on who deserves to be selected in that spot. Even if we draft another CB I will support it if its determined he is the best player available.

Fairley, and Jordan are not impact players IMO.

Fairley has never impressed me. He had 1 sack and 15 tackles in 10 games last year. Dareus had 43 tackles and 5.5 sacks along with 1 fumble recovery, 2 passes defended, and 4 stuffs
Dareus is way better than Fairley.
Jordan had 31 tackles an 1 sack
Clayborn had 42 tackles 7.5 sacks and 3 forced fumbles

[better days]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

No he is not an impact player. He has had good games only against a couple of weak teams. Otherwise he hasn't shown up. He is also infrequently seen in the backfield.

Not saying he sucks but he certainly has not had the same impact the others are having.

He is not having a great year, but he has had personal problems losing a loved one & is playing in a new defense this year. I will cut him some slack for this year & see how he plays next year myself.

[Mahdi]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

Fairley, and Jordan are not impact players IMO.

Fairley is still pretty useless and never really appears. He had 1 sack and 15 tackles in 10 games last year. Dareus had 43 tackles and 5.5 sacks.
Dareus is way better than Fairley.
Jordan had 31 tackles an 1 sack
Clayborn had 42 tackles 7.5 sacks and 3 forced fumbles

Fairley has been coming on strong the last few weeks since getting healthy and has been a major impact player for Detroit. He is starting to look like a Warren Sapp type player. Clayborn hasn't been playing due to injury but when he was he was a beast at DE. The guy is strong at the PoA in the run game and is a good pass rusher.

Cam Jordan has also begun to be a more impact player although I don't think I'd have him over Dareus at this point.

[Mahdi]

Re: 2011 Draft... Interesting

He is not having a great year, but he has had personal problems losing a loved one & is playing in a new defense this year. I will cut him some slack for this year & see how he plays next year myself.

Yeah I agree that he may have some untapped potential, next year he can become dominant or even later this season. I'm just saying that as of now, many of the other guys taken after him have established themselves into impact players while Dareus has been in many games abused by opposing offenses.