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Mike
11-27-2012, 10:06 PM
Sometime I think the writers on these sites just look at a few stats and make a silly prediction. This author at least seemed to know the D-Line personnel. That being said, he either thinks that Darius is bust or overlooked him completely.

This one has us taking a DT...


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1414309-2013-nfl-mock-draft-fresh-selections-for-entire-first-round/page/11

JoeMama
11-27-2012, 10:19 PM
Don't worry, we're not taking a DT.

Everyone knows the ******s who run this team want a CB.

Just another one to add to the pile.

Ed
11-27-2012, 10:52 PM
Well he's not wrong about the Bills being terrible against the run, but the main issue seems to be with our LB's. I could see them drafting DL if they switched back to a 3-4 again.

kingJofNYC
11-27-2012, 11:04 PM
Lets look at the talent on the DL for a moment.

Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus, and Mario Williams, those are sure bets.

Then we have Anderson who's posted two good season in his entire NFL career, also bounced around a lot. Kyle Moore has shown flashes in spot duty but it's a small sample size, so you can't make much of it yet.

Finally there's Troup, Carrington, Spencer Johnson, Chris Kelsay, and the corpse of Shawn Merriman.

Yeah, we need DL help if you ask me, but I'd rather go DE than DT. It shouldn't be disregarded when we only have 3 good players on the line.

jamze132
11-28-2012, 02:10 AM
We need a damn QB and 3 linebackers before we do anything.

X-Era
11-28-2012, 06:05 AM
I can never disagree with taking a guy worthy of our pick when we pick. But, DT is one of our last needs IMO.

kingJofNYC
11-28-2012, 07:01 AM
I can never disagree with taking a guy worthy of our pick when we pick. But, DT is one of our last needs IMO.

If Dareus or Kyle get hurt what happens? You're starting garbage at that point. I also found it funny that Dareus came off the field after his sack against the Colts, Spencer Johnson or Carrington came in, 3rd and long was converted. Team needs DT depth bit time.

TigerJ
11-28-2012, 10:53 PM
Well he's not wrong about the Bills being terrible against the run, but the main issue seems to be with our LB's. I could see them drafting DL if they switched back to a 3-4 again.I agree. It's the linebacking Buffalo needs to address now. BTW, I think Buffalo has made some strides in run defense recently. There's still lots of room for improvement, but I think Bradham's maturation is helping a bit. Also, Marcel Dareus is starting to make his presence felt, and Mario Williams too.

IlluminatusUIUC
11-28-2012, 11:02 PM
If Dareus or Kyle get hurt what happens? You're starting garbage at that point. I also found it funny that Dareus came off the field after his sack against the Colts, Spencer Johnson or Carrington came in, 3rd and long was converted. Team needs DT depth bit time.

DT depth. Not a Top 10 pick.

This mock is silly. They have a guy named Bjoern in the Top 10. Guys named Bjeorn only go Top 10 in the NHL draft. Then they have T'eo as the third LB off the board and only 1 QB in the first round. Sillyness.

Mr. Cynical
11-28-2012, 11:36 PM
Trade every damn pick we have for a legitimate franchise QB. It's that simple. How many super bowl winning teams have done it with a veteran QB they got from FA? Favre doesn't really count - he only had a year in ATL. Warner was lightning in a bottle. Can't think of any legit examples (there may be some but can't off top of my head)

No, we need to double down on the next RG3/Luck/Newton/etc. or this team will never move forward. JM2c.

IlluminatusUIUC
11-29-2012, 12:06 AM
Trade every damn pick we have for a legitimate franchise QB. It's that simple. How many super bowl winning teams have done it with a veteran QB they got from FA? Favre doesn't really count - he only had a year in ATL. Warner was lightning in a bottle. Can't think of any legit examples (there may be some but can't off top of my head)

New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Baltimore, and San Francisco (Young). Two of those won with D though.

But it is extremely rare, you're right on that point.

Parzival
11-29-2012, 12:07 AM
Trade every damn pick we have for a legitimate franchise QB. It's that simple. How many super bowl winning teams have done it with a veteran QB they got from FA? Favre doesn't really count - he only had a year in ATL. Warner was lightning in a bottle. Can't think of any legit examples (there may be some but can't off top of my head)

No, we need to double down on the next RG3/Luck/Newton/etc. or this team will never move forward. JM2c.

I dont think there one of those guys this year. Barkley is the big name you hear and we do not, do not want him, and certainly not as our first pick.

I wanted Russell Wilson...

X-Era
11-29-2012, 05:30 AM
If Dareus or Kyle get hurt what happens? You're starting garbage at that point. I also found it funny that Dareus came off the field after his sack against the Colts, Spencer Johnson or Carrington came in, 3rd and long was converted. Team needs DT depth bit time.That goes for every position. But it's not as much of a hole as other areas which is why you'd rather address other areas first.

YardRat
11-29-2012, 06:51 AM
New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Baltimore, and San Francisco (Young). Two of those won with D though.

But it is extremely rare, you're right on that point.

Don't forget Dawson, Plunkett, and Williams.

YardRat
11-29-2012, 06:58 AM
FWIW, I would go with Barrett Jones, one of the three LBers they have projected going before us (because they won't, and I'd prefer Te'o), or 'reach' for a QB instead of waiting for the second round.

TacklingDummy
11-29-2012, 07:05 AM
12) Buffalo Bills – Matt Barkley QB, USC
Fitz can’t get it done so the Bills take a QB for the future. MB has 37 td’s & 15 int’s 64% completion rate. Recent injury will be watched closely.

14. Buffalo Bills – Ricky Wagner – OT/Wisconsin

Too many sacks and too many interceptions. Ricky Wagner has been a factor since Anthony Costanzo (2011 1st rounder, Colts) and Kevin Zeitler (2012 2nd rounder, Chicago) manned the offensive line. Buffalo has invested over $20 million in Fitzpatrick and need to see him upright

7. Buffalo Bills: Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
General manager Buddy Nix, who is generally forthcoming about his offseason plans, told the media that he plans on drafting a franchise quarterback. This could occur in the second round, however, because there aren't any signal-callers worth taking this high. Plus, Ryan Fitzpatrick has played well enough lately to convince Buffalo to bring him back another year.

If the Bills eschew Matt Barkley, they could go with a defensive end. They spent tons of money on Mario Williams and Mark Anderson this offseason, but while the former has picked up his play lately, the latter has been dreadful whenever he's been on the field. Buffalo needs to put as much pressure on the quarterback if it wants to unseat the Patriots in the division.

Damontre Moore recently said he plans on returning to school, but he did leave the door open by saying, "I'll look at it." What he'll see is everyone projecting him to be a top-eight pick. That could prompt him to change his mind.


5. Bills team Pick Breakdown... Jarvis Jones OLB from Georgia

It's hard for me to not give a QB to Buffalo. They said they would, and, in the past, they've always done what they said, unless a player like Jones is available. Recently, rookie LB Nigel Bradham has been holding his own, and Nick Barnett is good, but aging. They have nothing else at linebacker for Buffalo. The Bills' need at the position is dire.


13. Buffalo Bills: Manti Te'o, LB, Notre Dame

9. Buffalo Bills - Tyler Wilson QB/Arkansas


(9) Taylor Lewan OT / 6'7'' 305 / Michigan / Jr.

7. Buffalo – Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas
The more I look at Wilson, the more I think anywhere else he would have been a marque player. I know he has received some hype for his play, but if he had a half decent offensive line, consistency at HC, or more than one real threat to pass the ball to he may have had a chance to compete for the number one spot. Having said all that, he is still my number two QB and I have questions on what he would be like outside of a system with a good running game and a clear #1 target, which is why he is a perfect fit in Buffalo. Stevie Johnson, C.J. Spiller, and a decent offensive line could put him in position to be a ROY candidate.

9. Buffalo Bills: Matt Barkley, QB, USC
Matt Barkley’s draft stock may be slipping, but if the Buffalo Bills have a shot to draft him in Round 1, he will still be tough to pass up. The Bills’ offense continues to be inconsistent under quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, who has not made the strides expected of him this season, and the Bills have a chance to get a potentially great NFL quarterback in Barkley.

11. Buffalo Bills - Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama (6'1" 200) *
Milliner has moved his way up scouting boards with his strong play on a great Alabama team

8. Buffalo Bills – Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas

This pick wasn’t very popular in my last mock but I’m sticking with Wilson to the Bills. Chan Gailey may get a lifeline and rest his future hopes on a rookie, it’s better than Fitz. I really like the fit of Wilson with Chan Gailey and Buffalo.

8. Buffalo Bills – Matt Barkley QB, USC
Like Smith, I think Barkley’s stock will take a swing back up by the end of January and into the Combine so by draft time he’ll be consider a high pick once again.

9) Buffalo Bills Select Jake Matthews, Offensive Tackle, Texas A&M.
Reasoning: The Bills owner said he does want to pursue a franchise Qb, I don’t think they will do it here, I think they improve their offensive line to make sure their new signal caller has time to pass the ball and get it to their premier wide receiver Steve Johnson.

DraftBoy
11-29-2012, 07:05 AM
DT depth. Not a Top 10 pick.

This mock is silly. They have a guy named Bjoern in the Top 10. Guys named Bjeorn only go Top 10 in the NHL draft. Then they have T'eo as the third LB off the board and only 1 QB in the first round. Sillyness.

Im assuming your joking but its worth not Bjoern Werner is going to be one hell of a pass rusher, not sure he declares but wouldn't shock me.

DraftBoy
11-29-2012, 07:06 AM
Also guys it's B/R that should tell you all you need to know.

IlluminatusUIUC
11-29-2012, 07:52 AM
Im assuming your joking but its worth not Bjoern Werner is going to be one hell of a pass rusher, not sure he declares but wouldn't shock me.

I was.


Don't forget Dawson, Plunkett, and Williams.

Too late, already forgot them.

stuckincincy
11-29-2012, 07:55 AM
12) Buffalo Bills – Matt Barkley QB, USC

14. Buffalo Bills – Ricky Wagner – OT/Wisconsin

Too many sacks and too many interceptions. Ricky Wagner has been a factor since Anthony Costanzo (2011 1st rounder, Colts) and Kevin Zeitler (2012 2nd rounder, Chicago) manned the offensive line. Buffalo has invested over $20 million in Fitzpatrick and need to see him upright

After 11 starts at RG for CIN, Zeitler would be surprised to learn he's also the property of the Bears... :kid:

Ed
11-29-2012, 09:38 AM
I'm really starting to jump on the Tyler Wilson bandwagon, but I'm already reading things about how his stock is only going to rise and he could end up being the #1 QB taken.

The Jokeman
11-29-2012, 09:49 AM
Trade every damn pick we have for a legitimate franchise QB. It's that simple. How many super bowl winning teams have done it with a veteran QB they got from FA? Favre doesn't really count - he only had a year in ATL. Warner was lightning in a bottle. Can't think of any legit examples (there may be some but can't off top of my head)

No, we need to double down on the next RG3/Luck/Newton/etc. or this team will never move forward. JM2c.

Teams with franchise QBs generally don't trade them unless they feel they have another franchise QB in place. In looking over the NFL quickly I can't see any team that would move their franchise QB with the exception of San Diego but they don't have a replacement for Phillip Rivers yet they could depending what they do on draft day. That said I wouldn't want Rivers.

The Jokeman
11-29-2012, 09:51 AM
I'm really starting to jump on the Tyler Wilson bandwagon, but I'm already reading things about how his stock is only going to rise and he could end up being the #1 QB taken.

Wilson's numbers have tailed off his senior season both in completion percentage and amount of INTs has increased which is a little bit of a concern. If anything his stock is cooling and think he could fall to Round 2 which is good place to look. Yet if I was taking a QB in Round 2 than EJ Manuel is a guy I might place at the top of my list.

Bill Cody
11-29-2012, 10:18 AM
If Dareus or Kyle get hurt what happens? You're starting garbage at that point. I also found it funny that Dareus came off the field after his sack against the Colts, Spencer Johnson or Carrington came in, 3rd and long was converted. Team needs DT depth bit time.

We're starting garbage at QB now and our starter's not hurt. Our LB's are garbage. You have much bigger needs than depth.

Ed
11-29-2012, 12:13 PM
Wilson's numbers have tailed off his senior season both in completion percentage and amount of INTs has increased which is a little bit of a concern. If anything his stock is cooling and think he could fall to Round 2 which is good place to look. Yet if I was taking a QB in Round 2 than EJ Manuel is a guy I might place at the top of my list.
I think the scouts will recognize the difficult circumstances he faced this year and not care about his numbers as much. He still has a lot of talent.

Extremebillsfan247
11-29-2012, 02:43 PM
Sometime I think the writers on these sites just look at a few stats and make a silly prediction. This author at least seemed to know the D-Line personnel. That being said, he either thinks that Darius is bust or overlooked him completely.

This one has us taking a DT...


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1414309-2013-nfl-mock-draft-fresh-selections-for-entire-first-round/page/11
The sad thing is if that DT turns out to be the best available player when the Bills are on the board in the first, you can bet they draft him regardless if we need a DT, or not. That's what Nix does. He's all about best player available with that first pick. That's how we ended up with Spiller. JMO

Mr. Cynical
11-29-2012, 03:56 PM
New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Baltimore, and San Francisco (Young). Two of those won with D though.

But it is extremely rare, you're right on that point.


Don't forget Dawson, Plunkett, and Williams.

All of those examples except Brees (and Dilfer/Johnson, who as you said don't really count - those D's were 100% responsible for the win) were before FA came into existence in 1993. Not that that means a ton but worth noting. Also the game has changed in the past 20 years back to a passing league putting more importance on the QB. But yeah, just pretty damn rare and definitely not the most likely way to win a SB.

TigerJ
11-29-2012, 10:53 PM
I still see some occasional mocks projecting Buffalo will take an offensive tackle. Idiots. I can see QB or LB or CB, or even a DE, but there is no way they draft an offensive tackle in round 1.

Generalissimus Gibby
11-30-2012, 04:29 AM
We need a damn QB and 3 linebackers before we do anything.

that's not how you spell cornerback, sorry I am attempting to see this from Chan and Buddy's mindset

Mike
12-03-2012, 01:52 AM
Trade every damn pick we have for a legitimate franchise QB. It's that simple. How many super bowl winning teams have done it with a veteran QB they got from FA? Favre doesn't really count - he only had a year in ATL. Warner was lightning in a bottle. Can't think of any legit examples (there may be some but can't off top of my head)

No, we need to double down on the next RG3/Luck/Newton/etc. or this team will never move forward. JM2c.

If you look at the last 13 drafts the Bills had there are so many busts. Doubling down is not a bad idea especially if there is a good QB prospect there. The Bills miss out on the top talent even when it falls in their laps. At this point I would not oppose doubling down every year until we draft a franchise QB.