Nix Asks the fans for more patience

[The King]

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/AP-Bills-GM-Nix-asks-fans-for-a-little-more-patience/7357f4ce-ec93-4059-b176-a7aa4110260f


``There's two ways of looking at doing it: You could get your quarterback first and then try to fill the other holes around him,'' Nix said, Wednesday. ``But then you take a chance on injury and a chance on breaking his confidence down.''Instead, he added: ``What we did was we had so many needs to start with that every time there was a high-rated player there, we knew he would fill a spot.''

I actually agree with this philosophy and I feel a bit relieved to see Nix say it publicly.

[DesertFox24]

Well he has two choices to handle this.

Hope a guy like Rogers or Flacco falls in the draft or trade picks and move up like the Jets and Jags did with Sanchez and Gabbert.

I personally agree with the approach and would like to take it one step further where the rookie does not play unless we are smoking a team, not even if we are getting blown out. Also I let him play a lot in the preseason.

The only problem is that hopefully we are better team and are not in the top 10 which means in order to get the legit dude you have to trade the farm to get the guy. Now it appears to be working for the skins but not working for the jets or jags, both traded up for sanchez and Gabbert.

The other option is to draft a guy like Dalton or Kap late first or early second and develop them for probably two years till they are ready. The cowboys developed Romo for what two years before he played, Rogers was behind Favre for 3 years.

I am fine with this approach if our defense is a top 10 unit, I believe that Fitz is adequate enough to win 10 games if we have a top 10 defense (assuming the running game stays strong like this year).

[justasportsfan]

I actually agree with this philosophy and I feel a bit relieved to see Nix say it publicly.

If some people think that this is what happened to Trent, then Nix is right.

[The King]

That's the catch... You can't just take a QB for the sake of it (Losman, Gabbert) you need to do your homework and hit on a very high percentage QB.

The catch is it really has to be a first round talent, second round QB's rarely work out. There have been a few but mostly developed later in their career, Brees, Schaub.

[bf1]

Sorry Nix. I don't have patience as you "build through the draft" while missing picks left and right. Besides Mario, he's done nothing significant in free agency. The end result is a wash. Constantly trying to fill holes as new ones open up. It's incredibly frustrating to see other teams improve. Granted other teams have their ups and downs, but it's frustrating that there are never any ups and it's not a lack of patience.

[justasportsfan]

lets face it. Unless we lose the rest of our games, Gailey isn't going anywhere and Russ Brandon will get us another player to get excited about like TO and Mario to sell tickets.

[BLeonard]

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/AP-Bills-GM-Nix-asks-fans-for-a-little-more-patience/7357f4ce-ec93-4059-b176-a7aa4110260f


I actually agree with this philosophy and I feel a bit relieved to see Nix say it publicly.

I don't disagree with the philosophy, per se, but the thing is, with that philosophy, you actually have to get the QB at some time.

The problem is, 2013 doesn't look like a deep year for QB's... I don't follow college football too much, so I don't really know how 2014 looks, but, if Nix doesn't get a QB this year, we'll hear the same **** this time next year. By then, all those players you drafted to build the team up before getting a QB are looking at Free Agency. Levitre and Byrd are up this year, Wood is up after next year... teh year after, Spiller's contract is up.

How many more years is he gonna wait before pulling the trigger? If he waits much longer, he'll have to spend the picks on players to fill holes that are created by players leaving for Free Agency.

-Bill

[TrEd FTW]

Sorry Nix. I don't have patience as you "build through the draft" while missing picks left and right. Besides Mario, he's done nothing significant in free agency. The end result is a wash. Constantly trying to fill holes as new ones open up. It's incredibly frustrating to see other teams improve. Granted other teams have their ups and downs, but it's frustrating that there are never any ups and it's not a lack of patience.

Exactly. It'd be one thing if Nix were a great drafter, but he's quite terrible at it. Thus, everything he says in this article is useless - just like his GM tenure. GTFO.

[The King]

This year we have Landry Jones, Matt Barkley, Geno Smith, and Glennon as more of a project.

[TrEd FTW]

This year we have Landry Jones, Matt Barkley, Geno Smith, and Glennon as more of a project.

They'll end up with Tyler Wilson, IMO.

[cookie G]

Show me the Baby!!!!

Its been a 3 year pregnancy.

[Typ0]

We have had this discussion here so many times both about draft strategy and free agency. It only makes logical sense that you go get the best players you can and don't waiver from that and end up on the other end with a better team. I am really on board with that thinking. However, the QB position is too damn critical. I see what they are doing in Indy with Luck right now ... and it is very clear to me a big part of that are the systems they built around Peyton Manning. I am tired of the "serviceable QB" analogies. In every single case of a so called serviceable QB being successful that individual performed optimally for their abilities. That is where the whole "servicable" crap starts to break down those guys were consummate professionals who got the job done.

Somewhere in the near future there needs to be a serious upgrade at the QB position. Not just a draft pick...but a real upgrade at the position. Maybe Jackson is an upgrade or they see him as part of the package. We have to trust these guys know more than us they are really in the know and we aren't. All we know is QB seems to tear us apart on a consistent basis I don't care how much talent we have in other positions.

[mjt328]

When Nix talks, he always sounds like a "man with a plan."
But when you look at the results, it looks more like a guy who is completely winging it and has no idea what he's doing.

He talks big in the offseason about building throught the draft and taking the Best Player Available.
But his drafts have been terrible...yielding almost no impact players and very few legit starters. Three years after taking over, our best players are still the guys that were already here when he arrived.

Every season he tells us that he couldn't see a quarterback worth drafting.
That sounds good in April. But after the game are played, we've got Aaron Williams and TJ Graham - while Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson are starting for other teams.

[GingerP]

How patient?

I'd be willing to give him until the end of the season.

[Mr. Pink]

lets face it. Unless we lose the rest of our games, Gailey isn't going anywhere and Russ Brandon will get us another player to get excited about like TO and Mario to sell tickets.

Agreed.

Then 8 games into next year people will be clamoring why did we keep Gailey around. Even those who are backing him now.

It's never-ending.

I just hope that the next HC we get whether that be this offseason or next, we get someone who knows what the hell he is doing and assembles the proper staff. That way, just maybe, we can consistently win football games on Sundays.

[The Jokeman]

Well he has two choices to handle this.

Hope a guy like Rogers or Flacco falls in the draft or trade picks and move up like the Jets and Jags did with Sanchez and Gabbert.

I personally agree with the approach and would like to take it one step further where the rookie does not play unless we are smoking a team, not even if we are getting blown out. Also I let him play a lot in the preseason.

The only problem is that hopefully we are better team and are not in the top 10 which means in order to get the legit dude you have to trade the farm to get the guy. Now it appears to be working for the skins but not working for the jets or jags, both traded up for sanchez and Gabbert.

The other option is to draft a guy like Dalton or Kap late first or early second and develop them for probably two years till they are ready. The cowboys developed Romo for what two years before he played, Rogers was behind Favre for 3 years.

I am fine with this approach if our defense is a top 10 unit, I believe that Fitz is adequate enough to win 10 games if we have a top 10 defense (assuming the running game stays strong like this year).

Guys like Rodgers and Flacco don't "fall" in drafts. The truth is what Nix is trying to say, what I do, that franchise QBs are more a product of their surrounding cast then talent all by their lonesomes. Look at Josh Freeman last year compared to this year. He's worlds better is it because suddenly he became better and/or more mature or was it through the additional of Vincent Jackson, Dallas Clark or Doug Martin. Most likely it was a combination of both but to me you build as much talent outside of QB and then make your QB the last part and then he's not going to be counted on to do as much which means he has a better chance at suceeding.

[Lone Stranger]

I'm sick of hearing Buddy's BS. When he first got the job "we're just a little away". Then his theme was we had a bunch of bums and needed wholesale upgrades. He makes Jauron sound like the greatest coach of all-time considering Buddy's analysis of the personnel in retrospect. Just BS; just BS. You all can fall for it but I've had it.

[BertSquirtgum]

More patience? Nix can go **** himself. Please resign you dumb old slack jawed hillbilly moron.

[SABURZFAN]

i am patiently waiting for The Old Fart to croak. :tap:

[kingJofNYC]

I've had a lot of patience.

Fans ask Nix to draft quality players!

[OpIv37]

Really?
No championships in 46 years.
0-46 on Super Bowls
1 winning season in 12 years
No playoffs in 12 years
No playoff wins in 16 years
3 years of the current regime and we are no better than when they got here.

Through all of this, fans keep going to games, watching on TV and buying merch. And this dumb mother****er has the audacity to ask fans to be patient?

Go **** yourself, Buddy. You have our patience- it's in the form of the money sitting in your bank account. Other teams get better from one year to the next, yet, you can't. Other teams improve through the draft and find impact players through FA, yet, you can't. Other teams improve by changing coaches and their base offense/defense, yet you take two steps backward for every step forward.

And you want us to be patient? Buddy, you can be as patient as you want with Chan, Wanny and Fitz. They will NEVER win a SB, especially with you picking the "talent" they have to work with. Seriously, **** off and die.

[kingJofNYC]

Understand what he's trying to sell to the fans, but we've been fed that line one too many times.

We're the most patient fans in football, the fact that we actually discuss our team is a testament to our commitment. Fans have stuck with this franchise, other fan bases jump ship with ease. The ****ing Rams have had more success in the last 12 years than this team has, and their fans abandoned the team a few years removed from a SB victory.

Patients, we have plenty of patients. Results, we have none. Show me something, show me you're not the incompetent old man who's ****ed up two drafts.

[Typ0]

and the Rams will be coming here to kick our asses this week too. They are not a completely pathetic football team...I doubt we can beat them.

[Night Train]

To me, it simply sounds like a public plea towards Brandon to save his job.

[X-Era]

I don't disagree with the philosophy, per se, but the thing is, with that philosophy, you actually have to get the QB at some time.

The problem is, 2013 doesn't look like a deep year for QB's... I don't follow college football too much, so I don't really know how 2014 looks, but, if Nix doesn't get a QB this year, we'll hear the same **** this time next year. By then, all those players you drafted to build the team up before getting a QB are looking at Free Agency. Levitre and Byrd are up this year, Wood is up after next year... teh year after, Spiller's contract is up.

How many more years is he gonna wait before pulling the trigger? If he waits much longer, he'll have to spend the picks on players to fill holes that are created by players leaving for Free Agency.

-Bill
It's deeper than that. I don't fully agree with his concept. Yes, you need to have a good team for the young QB to suceed. But there's no reason our young QB couldn't sit the bench while the rest of the team was built.

Using his method, should we somehow assume the young QB will play like a solid starter day one? There is often a period where the young player adapts to the NFL. How many more months will we be forced to stay with Fitz because our young QB isn't ready?

[OpIv37]

And one more problem with patience:

NFL players have a limited shelf life. Players get old and become shells of themselves or retire. Players become FA's and move on. Players get injuries from which they don't fully recover. The longer it takes Buddy to fill existing holes, the more likely new ones will open up. Actually, "likely" is a bad way to phrase it- new holes will inevitably open up.

This is why this team has been mired in a self-perpetuating rebuilding cycle for 12 ****ing years. They attempt to plug holes through the draft and FA, but make bad choices, and by the time they figure it out and get the holes plugged, new holes have opened up, and we are right back to bad choices in the draft and FA. Then the coach and/or the GM gets fired and we are right back to the beginning of the cycle.

So, once again, **** patience. It's way past time for this team to start getting it right.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Sorry Nix. I don't have patience as you "build through the draft" while missing picks left and right. Besides Mario, he's done nothing significant in free agency. The end result is a wash. Constantly trying to fill holes as new ones open up. It's incredibly frustrating to see other teams improve. Granted other teams have their ups and downs, but it's frustrating that there are never any ups and it's not a lack of patience.
I think we've been slowly filling the holes and not creating new ones as quickly. Look at our needs from two years ago and last year, LT, RT, CB, QB, WR, TE, you count them. This year I would argue all we need are QB, LB, and maybe 2nd WR. Ron Brooks can certainly fill the 2nd CB need, and we've got our franchise LT for years to come in Glenn and Spiller being the future RB. That's definitely a step in the right direction.

[bf1]

I think we've been slowly filling the holes and not creating new ones as quickly. Look at our needs from two years ago and last year, LT, RT, CB, QB, WR, TE, you count them. This year I would argue all we need are QB, LB, and maybe 2nd WR. Ron Brooks can certainly fill the 2nd CB need, and we've got our franchise LT for years to come in Glenn and Spiller being the future RB. That's definitely a step in the right direction.

If we filled those holes with better talent, their record would show it. Lets see how many players leave before filling the rest of the holes.

[BertSquirtgum]

Levitre will be running as fast as he can to greener pastures, same with urbik and rhinehart. Byrd is gone. How does the o-line look now?

[bf1]

Don't know why, but this is how I view Buddy Nix's performance as GM and building the team. Can't keep up! Where eating the chocolate is bringing in Shawn Pussyfoot on Steroids Merriman.

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[stuckincincy]

The game is so biased to the pass game by the NFL these days. $$$.

If you burp on a QB, you get a PF.

Nix is weaseling words - get the QB first. He's painting a happy face on Fitz and defending the premature contract extension.

[better days]

Guys like Rodgers and Flacco don't "fall" in drafts. The truth is what Nix is trying to say, what I do, that franchise QBs are more a product of their surrounding cast then talent all by their lonesomes. Look at Josh Freeman last year compared to this year. He's worlds better is it because suddenly he became better and/or more mature or was it through the additional of Vincent Jackson, Dallas Clark or Doug Martin. Most likely it was a combination of both but to me you build as much talent outside of QB and then make your QB the last part and then he's not going to be counted on to do as much which means he has a better chance at suceeding.

Yes, in Freemans case it was a combination of both. Morris was a soft HC & Freeman took advantage of that. He did not work out in the offseason & came into camp last year FAT & out of shape. Then during the season, he never did get in shape & did not work on his game, he COASTED & Morris let him get away with it.

The Bucs hired a no nonsense HC in the offseason & Freeman was told to report in shape ready to work. He reported to camp in the best shape of his career & the reports are he is working hard. It does not hurt to have added weapons either.

[better days]

and the Rams will be coming here to kick our asses this week too. They are not a completely pathetic football team...I doubt we can beat them.

Well, this week should tell us a lot about the Bills. If the Bills win this game, it will not be against a pushover. If they lose, it will most likely be on Fitz & show just how badly he needs to be replaced.

[The Jokeman]

I think we've been slowly filling the holes and not creating new ones as quickly. Look at our needs from two years ago and last year, LT, RT, CB, QB, WR, TE, you count them. This year I would argue all we need are QB, LB, and maybe 2nd WR. Ron Brooks can certainly fill the 2nd CB need, and we've got our franchise LT for years to come in Glenn and Spiller being the future RB. That's definitely a step in the right direction.

You're over valuing Ron Brooks. He's shown he can be a good depth CB but asking him to start full time is a whole other question. I will admit I had doubts on Glenn and he's shown to be better then I ever imagined but still resistant saying he's a full time starter. He has to prove himself next year before I will say LT is filled. This offseason it looks like we're going to lose McKelvin and McGee who have to be replaced. Hopefully we do it with a mid range UFA that can also compete for a starting spot with Aaron Williams insteading having to force us to draft a CB high.

[JoeMama]

More patience?

It's not like we have a choice here but still.

It's the principle of the thing.

Buddy must think we drink from a limitless well of patience.

Thirteen years is a long time.

Four years to crack .500 is a crappy roadmap to success.

Just sayin'.

[kishoph]

Nix Asks the fans for more patience

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