If not Fitz, then who?

[OpIv37]

I seriously think Fitz will be back next year. I'm not defending him and I don't want him back, but think about it objectively. What are the realistic alternatives? Give me names that are:

a) realistically obtainable and
b) clearly better than Fitz

I see names like Alex Smith and Jay Cutler being thrown around. Smith is no better than Fitz- he's another stopgap at best. Cutler is more talented than Fitz- that's for damn sure- but he's also prone to some really awful games and hissy fits on the sidelines. Given Gailey's play-calling (assuming he's back), the defense's propensity for implosions and the lack of quality WR's, a couple of Cutler explosions would be inevitable. And that's again assuming that a) Chicago will move him and b) we can afford his contract.

Different isn't necessarily better. I'm so tired of switching QB's for the sake of switching. We need to find someone who is a clear improvement somehow. I know franchise QB's don't grow on trees, but there is no point in making another Collins to Johnson or Bledsoe to Losman or Edwards to Fitz type change. And if we draft someone, Fitz would be a far better mentor than Thigpen or TJax. So, there is no point to making a change until we have a clear upgrade, and I just don't see one out there right now.

[Night Train]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

Probably a rookie with mobility and an actual arm. To be determined.


Russ Brandon is team President and runs this team now through Ralph/Littman. He also is in charge of marketing this team.

Go ahead and try to market/sell Fitz/Gailey/Nix to the ticket buying public after this junk.

Mission Impossible.

[THRILLHO]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

I seriously think Fitz will be back next year. I'm not defending him and I don't want him back, but think about it objectively. What are the realistic alternatives? Give me names that are:

a) realistically obtainable and
b) clearly better than Fitz

I see names like Alex Smith and Jay Cutler being thrown around. Smith is no better than Fitz- he's another stopgap at best. Cutler is more talented than Fitz- that's for damn sure- but he's also prone to some really awful games and hissy fits on the sidelines. Given Gailey's play-calling (assuming he's back), the defense's propensity for implosions and the lack of quality WR's, a couple of Cutler explosions would be inevitable. And that's again assuming that a) Chicago will move him and b) we can afford his contract.

Different isn't necessarily better. I'm so tired of switching QB's for the sake of switching. We need to find someone who is a clear improvement somehow. I know franchise QB's don't grow on trees, but there is no point in making another Collins to Johnson or Bledsoe to Losman or Edwards to Fitz type change. And if we draft someone, Fitz would be a far better mentor than Thigpen or TJax. So, there is no point to making a change until we have a clear upgrade, and I just don't see one out there right now.

I don't see Cutler being moved out of Chicago. What about Rivers?

[Ginger Vitis]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

1)Michael Vick
2) EJ Manuel/Tyler Wilson

[EDS]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

I seriously think Fitz will be back next year. I'm not defending him and I don't want him back, but think about it objectively. What are the realistic alternatives? Give me names that are:

a) realistically obtainable and
b) clearly better than Fitz

I see names like Alex Smith and Jay Cutler being thrown around. Smith is no better than Fitz- he's another stopgap at best. Cutler is more talented than Fitz- that's for damn sure- but he's also prone to some really awful games and hissy fits on the sidelines. Given Gailey's play-calling (assuming he's back), the defense's propensity for implosions and the lack of quality WR's, a couple of Cutler explosions would be inevitable. And that's again assuming that a) Chicago will move him and b) we can afford his contract.

Different isn't necessarily better. I'm so tired of switching QB's for the sake of switching. We need to find someone who is a clear improvement somehow. I know franchise QB's don't grow on trees, but there is no point in making another Collins to Johnson or Bledsoe to Losman or Edwards to Fitz type change. And if we draft someone, Fitz would be a far better mentor than Thigpen or TJax. So, there is no point to making a change until we have a clear upgrade, and I just don't see one out there right now.

I agree that Nix/Gailey have now painted the Bills into a corner with few if any possible QB upgrades available. The only likely option os getting something out of the draft, though unfortunately this draft class does not seem as strong as the past two. If they do their homework and get lucky they might get a Nick Foles type of development guy.

I want absolutely nothing to do with Vick. I would take a chance on Rivers but would not trade anything of value to get him.

[OpIv37]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

1)Michael Vick
2) EJ Manuel/Tyler Wilson

You are crazy if you think Vick is any better than Fitz at this point in his career.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

. What about Rivers?

is he a FA? If not, I'd give SD a 3rd, maybe a 2nd, for him. It couldn't hurt. And I'd still draft a QB, named Barkley, with the 1st pick.

[OpIv37]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

I don't see Cutler being moved out of Chicago. What about Rivers?

I see Rivers as a case of being better, but still not good enough. He'd probably get a few more wins than Fitz but would struggle to get us into the playoffs and still won't win a SB.

[Ginger Vitis]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

You are crazy if you think Vick is any better than Fitz at this point in his career.

Well you did say "reasonably obtainable" and going on the assumption Gailey is not back next season I do think Vick is a better QB than Fitzpatrick

[OpIv37]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

Well you did say "reasonably obtainable" and going on the assumption Gailey is not back next season I do think Vick is a better QB than Fitzpatrick

I disagree. His legs aren't the asset that they were in the past and he's just as turnover-prone as Fitz, if not more so.

[Typ0]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

Probably a rookie with mobility and an actual arm. To be determined.


Russ Brandon is team President and runs this team now through Ralph/Littman. He also is in charge of marketing this team.

Go ahead and try to market/sell Fitz/Gailey/Nix to the ticket buying public after this junk.

Mission Impossible.

They do have something right though! This thing you are highlighting...well they have gotten to a point they can't sell change either because they have done it too many times. I don't think your argument holds water really...they need to stick it out with someone but they need the right guy to be there not the wrong guy!

[gebobs]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

You are crazy if you think Vick is any better than Fitz at this point in his career.

Vick isn't what he was, but he's much better than Fitz. Heck, I'd sign Vick's mother to take over for Fitz.

Still, I'd rather muddle through than get that jackalope.

[Saratoga Slim]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

I seriously think Fitz will be back next year. I'm not defending him and I don't want him back, but think about it objectively. What are the realistic alternatives? Give me names that are:

a) realistically obtainable and
b) clearly better than Fitz

I see names like Alex Smith and Jay Cutler being thrown around. Smith is no better than Fitz- he's another stopgap at best. Cutler is more talented than Fitz- that's for damn sure- but he's also prone to some really awful games and hissy fits on the sidelines. Given Gailey's play-calling (assuming he's back), the defense's propensity for implosions and the lack of quality WR's, a couple of Cutler explosions would be inevitable. And that's again assuming that a) Chicago will move him and b) we can afford his contract.

Different isn't necessarily better. I'm so tired of switching QB's for the sake of switching. We need to find someone who is a clear improvement somehow. I know franchise QB's don't grow on trees, but there is no point in making another Collins to Johnson or Bledsoe to Losman or Edwards to Fitz type change. And if we draft someone, Fitz would be a far better mentor than Thigpen or TJax. So, there is no point to making a change until we have a clear upgrade, and I just don't see one out there right now.

Good post Op. I agree, change for the sake of change will only set us back further. I think Fitz is close to as good as it gets outside the top ten QB category. And unfortunately, it's really only the teams with a top ten QB that are consistently winning. No point in switching to another retread. And I don't see a rookie in this years class that would be an automatic upgrade.

[DraftBoy]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

The veteran options;
Tavaris Jackson, Matt Flynn, Kirk Cousins, Tony Romo, Phillip Rivers, Mike Vick, Ryan Mallet, TJ Yates

The rookie options:
Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson, Matt Barkley, Zac Dysert, Ryan Nassib, EJ Manuel, Landry Jones, Mike Glennon, Sean Renfree, Matt Scott, Ryan Aplin

[justasportsfan]

Re: If not Fitz, then who?

anyone who can hit a deep ball. With a running game like we have, it will open things up for the deep ball. With Fitz it's the same crap. He cant make teams pay with a deep ball if they play to stop the run.