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  • The King
    Without me it's just Awe so
    • Jun 2004
    • 42380

    The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

    Nix has now said publicly that this is the year we "go after" a young Qb.

    “Let me say this: I think there’s a time that in the era that you’re in and the development of your team, there’s a time when you can move up a round to take a quarterback,” Nix said on WGR, unsolicited (via Tim Graham of the Buffalo News). “And I think the time’s now for us.

    “I mean, if a guy’s there — I keep saying that, and there’ll be one out there — if the guy’s there, then I think we’ll target — as I’ve said before — drafting a good quarterback. We need a good, young quarterback, and we’re going to do our best to get him.”
    These are the big three QB's that people are focusing on right now so for the sake of argument we will go with that.

    Geno Smith
    Matt Barkley
    Tyler Wilson

    To avoid getting one by default the JP Losman treatment (meaning two are drafted before us). Let's look at the projected draft order and where we would have to make our move.

    1. KC
    2. JAX
    3. OAK
    4. PHI
    5. CAR
    6. TEN
    7. AZ
    8. DET
    9. SD
    10. BUF

    Of this list only 4 teams are "set" at QB (CAR, TEN, DET SD). KC is going to be forced to take a QB at 1 (most likely Smith), and they would also be impossible to trade with.

    Jacksonville shouldn't go QB, being only 2 years removed from taking Gabbart but it's Mularkeys show now so he probably has the option to move on.

    Oakland is where it gets interesting. Palmer has produced albeit inconstantly, but they need a lot of help and they're without a second rounder. So moving back a few spots and picking up some picks in the process may be intriguing for them. The question is do we have to move up to 3 to get the QB we want? Arizona would be the biggest threat on the clock at 7, and I am not sure we have to jump them 4 picks to make the deal.


    I personally am the most interested in Smith, so if KC passes on him and takes another QB or another player all together I think that that OAK trade becomes interesting. If Smith is gone, I would probably be OK with taking whoever is left at 10.

    What are your thoughts?
    Last edited by The King; 12-14-2012, 08:56 AM.
    I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
    "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
    You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
    It was all
    true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
    He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
    mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101334

    #2
    Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

    I don't think any of those guys are worth giving up more than swapping picks and a 2nd rounder, which probably isn't enough to get the deal done.
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    • stuckincincy
      Buffalo Bills Fan
      • Sep 2003
      • 15084

      #3
      Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

      Originally posted by The King View Post

      What are your thoughts?
      It's going to be a spirited race to the bottom...

      KC:
      @OAK
      IND
      @DEN

      JAX:
      @MIN
      NE
      @TEN

      OAK:
      KC
      @CAR
      @SD

      PHI:
      WAS
      @NYJ

      CAR:
      @SD OAK
      @NO

      TEN:
      NYJ
      @GB
      JAX

      DET:
      @AZ
      ATL
      CHI

      AZ::
      DET
      CHI
      @SF

      DET:
      @AZ
      CHI
      @SF
      Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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      • k-oneputt
        Registered User
        • Jun 2009
        • 7132

        #4
        Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

        I really think Tyler Wilson is the guy they will target, and it sounds like Nix is going to do what he has to by those comments.

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        • Mouldsie
          Registered User
          • Aug 2012
          • 5661

          #5
          Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

          Ugh. Always a day late and dollar short

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          • justasportsfan
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 71618

            #6
            Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

            I like Wilson. From the little that I've seen too, Nassib is a baller and like him as a project.
            sacrifice1
            https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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            • TigerJ
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 22575

              #7
              Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

              I like eiither Smith or Wilson, and I don't like Barkley. Best case scenario for me would be KC decides Barkley is the top QB in the draft, and they take him off the board and out of possibility for the Bills. I doubt two other QBs go before Buffalo picks since this QB class lacks the elite guy.

              If, however, Buffalo opts for a different position in the first round (WR, LB, DE) the are several QBs I like who aren't much of a reach where Buffalo is likely to be picking in round 2. Thus, a trade up may not be necessary.
              I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

              I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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              • Ed
                Dude
                • Sep 2002
                • 9247

                #8
                Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

                I'd be excited if we landed Smith or Wilson. I have no interest in Barkley.

                Nix did mention moving up a round to get a qb in that quote, so maybe they're not targeting one of those guys and he's talking about trading back into the 1st for someone else.

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                • ServoBillieves
                  The Voice of Reason
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 6106

                  #9
                  Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

                  I think we could easily land a guy like Landry Jones in the second, and I wouldn't mind that. Trading up in to the top 10 for one of the guys listed though... I dunno, with the problems on this team we can't pull a Redskins and trade away our draft for a hit or miss.
                  Bye Bye Brady...

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                  • EricStratton
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 20893

                    #10
                    Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

                    I think Barkley, is his shoulder is ok, will dazzle some teams in the pre-draft work and move way up on some boards.

                    That should work in our favor

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                    • coastal
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 15514

                      #11
                      Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

                      QBs will drop this year and this is about trading back up from the second to get one.

                      nix is also hoping T'eo is there for us in the first.

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                      • Mr. Miyagi
                        Lecter's Little *****

                        • Sep 2002
                        • 53616

                        #12
                        Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

                        Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                        KC:
                        @OAK
                        IND
                        @DEN

                        AZ::
                        DET
                        CHI
                        @SF
                        0-6

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                        • Mr. Miyagi
                          Lecter's Little *****

                          • Sep 2002
                          • 53616

                          #13
                          Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

                          Originally posted by coastal View Post
                          QBs will drop this year and this is about trading back up from the second to get one.

                          nix is also hoping T'eo is there for us in the first.
                          T'eo at 10 and Landry Jones in the 2nd.

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                          • stuckincincy
                            Buffalo Bills Fan
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 15084

                            #14
                            Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

                            Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi View Post
                            0-6
                            Could be.

                            Wherever OAK lands, I'd be surprised if they would budge more than a spot, owing CIN their #2.
                            Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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                            • The King
                              Without me it's just Awe so
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 42380

                              #15
                              Re: The competition for Smith, Barkley and Wilson

                              Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi View Post
                              T'eo at 10 and Landry Jones in the 2nd.
                              Cream jeans.
                              I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                              "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                              You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                              It was all
                              true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                              He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                              mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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