Should the Bills be running a 3-4

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  • coastal
    Legendary Zoner
    • Mar 2005
    • 15513

    Should the Bills be running a 3-4

    With Dareus on the nose, Kyle on weak side end, and Mario Williams on strong side end.

    Kyle Moore (resigned) and Anderson playing Talley's spot, shep playing 3-4 kill and fill linebacker that he should be and Bradham playing strong side?

    that leaves one ILB spot vacant... Because Barnett sucks...

    But to me this seems to be a better use of our talent.
  • SquishDaFish
    Lets GO BUFFALO!!
    • Jun 2005
    • 17034

    #2
    Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

    I like the idea but dont know if we should change again

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    • coastal
      Legendary Zoner
      • Mar 2005
      • 15513

      #3
      Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

      Originally posted by SquishDaFish View Post
      I like the idea but dont know if we should change again
      Why wouldn't we change if it suits our personnel better?

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      • SquishDaFish
        Lets GO BUFFALO!!
        • Jun 2005
        • 17034

        #4
        Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

        Learning a new scheme again BUT if we do change coaches like they are saying we are going to Might as well do it

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        • cookie G
          Registered User
          • Mar 2003
          • 7571

          #5
          Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

          Should we worry about teaching guys to shed blocks, fill a gap or tackle in the open field rather than worrying about how many have their hand in the dirt?

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          • jimmifli
            Registered User
            • Nov 2006
            • 7827

            #6
            Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

            Originally posted by coastal View Post
            With Dareus on the nose, Kyle on weak side end, and Mario Williams on strong side end.

            Kyle Moore (resigned) and Anderson playing Talley's spot, shep playing 3-4 kill and fill linebacker that he should be and Bradham playing strong side?

            that leaves one ILB spot vacant... Because Barnett sucks...

            But to me this seems to be a better use of our talent.
            Barnett sucks but you have a spot on the roster for Shep? I don't get that. Barnett and possibly Bradham are the only NFL quality LB's on the team.

            Shep should be on the bench, he's worse than Poz ever was.

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            • coastal
              Legendary Zoner
              • Mar 2005
              • 15513

              #7
              Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

              Originally posted by jimmifli View Post
              Barnett sucks but you have a spot on the roster for Shep? I don't get that. Barnett and possibly Bradham are the only NFL quality LB's on the team.

              Shep should be on the bench, he's worse than Poz ever was.
              He's being used wrong... He's not a read and react 4-3 MLB.

              Give him a 3-4 gap to fill and dreadlocks be coolin'.

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              • NOT THE DUDE...
                Hall of Fame Zoner
                • Jan 2010
                • 8826

                #8
                Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

                no. we need to just stick with our 43... christ

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                • coastal
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 15513

                  #9
                  Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

                  Originally posted by cookie G View Post
                  Should we worry about teaching guys to shed blocks, fill a gap or tackle in the open field rather than worrying about how many have their hand in the dirt?
                  Why not both?

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                  • ServoBillieves
                    The Voice of Reason
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 6106

                    #10
                    Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

                    43/34/cover 2/tampa 2 hybrid!!!!! ONLY 8 MONTHS TO FIGURE THIS **** OUT!!!!
                    Bye Bye Brady...

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                    • NOT THE DUDE...
                      Hall of Fame Zoner
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 8826

                      #11
                      Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

                      u r going to mess with the development of dareus/carrington/bradham/shepp...

                      stop!

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                      • jimmifli
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 7827

                        #12
                        Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

                        Originally posted by coastal View Post
                        He's being used wrong... He's not a read and react 4-3 MLB.

                        Give him a 3-4 gap to fill and dreadlocks be coolin'.
                        I hear that about lots of players. The good ones are good no matter how they are used. I just don't see it with him.

                        Can you think of any memorable plays he's made this year? I can't.

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                        • YardRat
                          Well, lookie here...
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 86262

                          #13
                          Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

                          cookie has a point about getting these guys up on the basics first, but instead of switching back to a 34 I'd rather run a modified 43 with five guys on the line, a 52 if you will, similar to what Phillips has run some in Houston. We'd need to get Te'o, or at least a major upgrade to Shepphard, to pull it off, though, and wouldn't have to drastically change the roster or stick guys (Moore, Anderson, Williams) in positions they don't belong (OLB).

                          Mario-Kyle-Dareus-Moore-Bradham with Te'o in the 'middle'. Move Shepphard to the outside, get a FA or keep Barnett and have him be the first one off the field in nickel packages.

                          I really like the pass-rushing opportunities from a five man line, even if rushing only four most of the time. The key is which four are going, and who is dropping back into a zone or picking up the back/TE.

                          Run man-to-man on the outside, zone under in either a Cover 1 or Cover 2 shell depending on down/distance/formation.
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                          • coastal
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 15513

                            #14
                            Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

                            How is putting players into positions to be successful detrimental to their development?

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                            • OpIv37
                              Acid Douching Asswipe
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 101286

                              #15
                              Re: Should the Bills be running a 3-4

                              Originally posted by coastal View Post
                              Why wouldn't we change if it suits our personnel better?
                              it really doesn't suit our personnel better.

                              The problem with our D is a) lack of LB's and b) Wannstadt's an idiot.

                              We don't even have 3 decent LBs- I don't want to switch to a system where our base set requires 4.
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