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Rookie QB's take a few years to become good... Not anymore
Re: Rookie QB's take a few years to become good... Not anymore
Breaking news: X-Era wants playoffs to happen here!
It's pretty amazing how quickly some of these modern QBs progress. Flacco and Ryan both went to the playoffs their rookie seasons. Ditto Dalton, Luck, RGIII, Kaepernick, and Wilson.
However with this year's QB crop looking so thin on talent, I doubt we'll see this phenomenon continue in 2013.
Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.
Breaking news: X-Era wants playoffs to happen here!
It's pretty amazing how quickly some of these modern QBs progress. Flacco and Ryan both went to the playoffs their rookie seasons. Ditto Dalton, Luck, RGIII, Kaepernick, and Wilson.
With this year's QB crop looking so thin on talent, I doubt we'll see this phenomenon continue in 2013.
Re: Rookie QB's take a few years to become good... Not anymore
Another example of Bumbling Buddy Nix.
Thought we could win with Fitz! Take a young QB early? Nonsense, we have a 7th rounder from Harvard whose bounced around the league, lets extend him and put the franchise on his back!
Re: Rookie QB's take a few years to become good... Not anymore
I think the college game has changed enough that most of these QBs are exposed to either a pro style offense or similar skills required for a pro style offense (ability to make a read).
Also, the top QBs receive tutoring much earlier from their agents or pro development consultants, usually starting after the bowl games are done. In the past, a QB had never called plays in the huddle, never had option or hot routes, spent the offseason Rob Johnsoning in hottubs then showed up at camp in August (after holding out) with about the same knowledge of the playbook as Tavaris Jackson. I can understand why it took a while for them to figure things out.
Re: Rookie QB's take a few years to become good... Not anymore
There are a few reasons for it.
1) Coordinators are adapting their offense so the rookie can run some of what they ran in college.
2) High profile rookies are being protected just like Manning and Brady by letting all sorts of holding go on.
3) Better athletes, meaning the ability to run, are being groomed at QB in college, so their transition to the NFL is easier.
4) The rookie no longer has to read that much because the D-backs aren't allowed to even cover and pick plays aren't even called anymore.
5) You don't have to worry about the rookie getting killed because even if a defender gets by the holds, you can't hit him high, you can't hit them low and makes defensive players afraid to lay a big lick for fear of a penalty and then maybe a fine.
Now that's not to say these guys aren't talented, they are. The league has just made it easier for them to succeed from the gitgo.
1) Coordinators are adapting their offense so the rookie can run some of what they ran in college.
2) High profile rookies are being protected just like Manning and Brady by letting all sorts of holding go on.
3) Better athletes, meaning the ability to run, are being groomed at QB in college, so their transition to the NFL is easier.
4) The rookie no longer has to read that much because the D-backs aren't allowed to even cover and pick plays aren't even called anymore.
5) You don't have to worry about the rookie getting killed because even if a defender gets by the holds, you can't hit him high, you can't hit them low and makes defensive players afraid to lay a big lick for fear of a penalty and then maybe a fine.
Now that's not to say these guys aren't talented, they are. The league has just made it easier for them to succeed from the gitgo.
6) Madden Football is helping young QBs learn how to read and manipulate defenses. The game is so good,so realistic that you can learn how to read different coverages, blitzes, audible plays, change routs, hot reads, option routes etc...
6) Madden Football is helping young QBs learn how to read and manipulate defenses. The game is so good,so realistic that you can learn how to read different coverages, blitzes, audible plays, change routs, hot reads, option routes etc...
And all of this can be done at a very young age
Good point, but I don't play video games so that's over my head. Thanks for the info.
1) Coordinators are adapting their offense so the rookie can run some of what they ran in college.
2) High profile rookies are being protected just like Manning and Brady by letting all sorts of holding go on.
3) Better athletes, meaning the ability to run, are being groomed at QB in college, so their transition to the NFL is easier.
4) The rookie no longer has to read that much because the D-backs aren't allowed to even cover and pick plays aren't even called anymore.
5) You don't have to worry about the rookie getting killed because even if a defender gets by the holds, you can't hit him high, you can't hit them low and makes defensive players afraid to lay a big lick for fear of a penalty and then maybe a fine.
Now that's not to say these guys aren't talented, they are. The league has just made it easier for them to succeed from the gitgo.
QFT.
Where things should get interesting, is in how much further some of these guys develop. The NFL can, and will, adapt to what these guys do. They actually need to keep improving, if they are going to last, in the way that the likes of Manning and Brady have. I wouldn't be at all surprised, if a couple of years on down the line, that some of these guys start to look very ordinary, when the coaches have come up with ways of stopping the option plays, if they haven't progressed further.
Should be interesting.
The guy who seems most likely to have the sort of career that Manning/Brady have had, will be Luck, as he is the closest to the traditional pocket passer. Can the others still have that type of length of career - for sure - but you won't see a 35 yr old RG3 or Newton, going the distance on his legs.
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