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  • Mike
    Registered User
    • Jan 2009
    • 3805

    Alex Smith vs Rivers

    Its has come to my attention that quite a few of you -after taking a poll- hated the idea of giving up picks for Philip Rivers but now are willing to give up a first round pick for Alex Smith.

    Really?

    You like Alex Smith more than Rivers. This is the Alex Smith that got demoted from a team that was a few minutes away from a SB? When has that ever happened before that a SB contender after going to championship game almost let their QB walk in off season only later to replace him with a 2nd year 2nd rounder who went on to outplay him?

    It has NEVER happened! Good teams usually have Good QBs and this means that the 49ers were a Great Team with an Average QB thus they are letting him GO! IF he is not Good enough for a team that has all the pieces in place, how in the world will he be good enough for the Bills and why would you give ANything up for such a player?
    Please Make Sense
  • acehole
    Registered User
    • Jan 2006
    • 4877

    #2
    Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

    Because anyone you draft this year won't work either.

    This team can not wait 2-3 year to develop a guy.

    What other qb out there?

    Answer those questions and you will get your answer.

    Or prepare for another year of fitz.

    I would go as high as # 1 in 2014 if he met certain goals so what...

    He can run that offense we run.



    Originally posted by Mike View Post
    Its has come to my attention that quite a few of you -after taking a poll- hated the idea of giving up picks for Philip Rivers but now are willing to give up a first round pick for Alex Smith.

    Really?

    You like Alex Smith more than Rivers. This is the Alex Smith that got demoted from a team that was a few minutes away from a SB? When has that ever happened before that a SB contender after going to championship game almost let their QB walk in off season only later to replace him with a 2nd year 2nd rounder who went on to outplay him?

    It has NEVER happened! Good teams usually have Good QBs and this means that the 49ers were a Great Team with an Average QB thus they are letting him GO! IF he is not Good enough for a team that has all the pieces in place, how in the world will he be good enough for the Bills and why would you give ANything up for such a player?
    Hated by the stupid..
    Loved by their moms.

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    • NOT THE DUDE...
      Hall of Fame Zoner
      • Jan 2010
      • 8826

      #3
      Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

      why the **** would the chargers trade rivers? lol

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      • justasportsfan
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 71580

        #4
        Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

        I'm not one of them. Won't give up a 1st rd. pick for someone who isn't a franchise qb.
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        https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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        • Jeff1220
          H to the 12:20
          • Jul 2002
          • 6137

          #5
          Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

          No to Alex Smith. If Rivers becomes available, I'd hope the Bills would be in play for him.

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          • justasportsfan
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 71580

            #6
            Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

            Originally posted by acehole View Post
            Because anyone you draft this year won't work either..
            tell that to Dalton, Kaepernick and Wilson.


            Besides, if you don't have that qb in this years draft then I would rather use that pick on another position instead of wasting it on another qb like Smith who isn't a franchise qb.
            sacrifice1
            https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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            • acehole
              Registered User
              • Jan 2006
              • 4877

              #7
              Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

              never said we should not draft one. Just that he would be more ready.

              Just dont want to gamble next 2-3 years on a developmental guy...while all of our good player die on the vine.


              Alex can play first down on first game.

              Originally posted by justasportsfan View Post
              tell that to Dalton, Kaepernick and Wilson.


              Besides, if you don't have that qb in this years draft then I would rather use that pick on another position instead of wasting it on another qb like Smith who isn't a franchise qb.
              Hated by the stupid..
              Loved by their moms.

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              • BillsFever21
                Registered User
                • Aug 2004
                • 9067

                #8
                Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

                This is just insane. Every year we get these crazy posts of people who says to either trade for, trade a player or sign a player way far above what their realistic value is. A couple years ago it was people saying give up a 1st round pick for Kolb or others who thought we could get a 2nd round pick for Jackson or that Stevie Johnson was worth 10+ million a year or last year some saying we should give up at least a 2nd round pick for Tebow

                This organization is stupid but they aren't that bad that they would give up a Top 10 draft pick for Alex Smith. This is just the most irrational thing I've heard yet this offseason. At the most he may be worth a 4th and maybe another pick on top of it. Harbaugh was able to salvage him into a game manager and win some games with him. By being benched in the middle of the season while fighting for a 1st round bye should tell you all you need to know. All you need to do is look at his career and that should make your decision for you.
                Last edited by BillsFever21; 01-01-2013, 04:00 PM.

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                • justasportsfan
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71580

                  #9
                  Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

                  Originally posted by acehole View Post
                  Alex can play first down on first game.
                  and do what? manage a game?
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                  https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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                  • acehole
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 4877

                    #10
                    Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

                    I would prefer conditional pick in 2014 as high as #1...but tell me if we blow our pick at Joe Unknown qb at 8 that we are not doing the same thing?

                    Lets hear you solution at qb also...we are waiting.

                    Fitz next year? Which first round qb would you like us to draft?

                    Flacco is staying put via tag or new deal....

                    It is a message board in off season should we just insult each other?

                    Love the critics of other posters...never seem to put any ideas on the table.

                    So benching breeze for rivers has to mean breeze sucks right?




                    Originally posted by BillsFever21 View Post
                    This is just insane. Every year we get these crazy posts of people who says to either trade for, trade a player or sign a player way far above what their realistic value is. A couple years ago it was people saying give up a 1st round pick for Kolb or others who thought we could get a 2nd round pick for Jackson or that Stevie Johnson was worth 10+ million a year or last year some saying we should give up at least a 2nd round pick for Tebow

                    This organization is stupid but they aren't that bad that they would give up a Top 10 draft pick for Alex Smith. This is just the most irrational thing I've heard yet this offseason. At the most he may be worth a 4th and maybe another pick on top of it. Harbaugh was able to salvage him into a game manager and win some games with him. By being benched in the middle of the season while fighting for a 1st round bye should tell you all you need to know. All you need to do is look at his career and that should make your decision for you.
                    Hated by the stupid..
                    Loved by their moms.

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                    • ThunderGun
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 625

                      #11
                      Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

                      I wouldn't sign Smith as a free agent, let alone give up a pick for him.

                      With Smith, we'd probably go 8-8 next year. I'd rather go 2-12 and get the #1 pick.

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                      • Bert102176
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 3742

                        #12
                        Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

                        Why not look into TJ Yates from the texans maybe a 2nd or a 3rd rd pick for him and we probably will look to draft a qb in the second why not one that played half the season and played good
                        lets go BUFFALO lets go BUFFALO

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                        • Bert102176
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 3742

                          #13
                          Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

                          Smith is not good, rivers I wouldn't give up more then a 3rd for him possibly throw in a 3rd or 4th next year depending on how he plays
                          lets go BUFFALO lets go BUFFALO

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                          • Bert102176
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 3742

                            #14
                            Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

                            I do like Ryan Nassib from Syracuse but if we can get Manti Te'o and get say rivers for what I suggested then we can use that 2nd round pick on a Wr, and we need a TE also we should cut Anderson make Carrington a starter next to kyle move dareus back to DE sign or draft backups I think a D-line of Williams, Williams, Carrington, and Dareus would be damn good with Bradham, Te'o, and another OLB via draft or free agency, and Gilmore, Williams, and Corner for CB's Byrd and a FA or draft pick for the safety positions that is how I would do my D
                            lets go BUFFALO lets go BUFFALO

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                            • BillsFever21
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 9067

                              #15
                              Re: Alex Smith vs Rivers

                              Originally posted by acehole View Post
                              I would prefer conditional pick in 2014 as high as #1...but tell me if we blow our pick at Joe Unknown qb at 8 that we are not doing the same thing?

                              Lets hear you solution at qb also...we are waiting.

                              Fitz next year? Which first round qb would you like us to draft?

                              Flacco is staying put via tag or new deal....

                              It is a message board in off season should we just insult each other?

                              Love the critics of other posters...never seem to put any ideas on the table.

                              So benching breeze for rivers has to mean breeze sucks right?
                              I would rather draft somebody in the 2nd round since there won't be any highly touted QB's worth the #8 pick. There isn't a team in the NFL that would give that up for Alex Smith. The sad part is you're not joking around.

                              You probably wouldn't even have to give anything up for him. Most likely the 49ers will end up releasing him now that they went to Kapernick. There isn't a chance in hell they will keep him around to be the backup next year with his salary and especially after everything that transpired. Whatever trade value he would have is lowered even more because of that.

                              Smith was horrible for years and Harbaugh was good enough to turn him into a game manager and ask him not to turn the ball over or lose games for them. If he was that great they wouldn't have benched him in the middle of the season. If a game manager is what you're looking for then you can pick one of them up many places a lot cheaper and without having to use a draft pick let alone a 1st round draft pick.
                              Last edited by BillsFever21; 01-01-2013, 06:29 PM.

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