Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

[X-Era]

As I go through their depth chart I find two, maybe three players that are better than ours. Joe Thomas and D'Qwell Jackson. I also gave Ward the nod over Wilson.

But we are better everywhere else:

Glenn < Thomas
Levitre > Greco
Wood > Mack
Hell Urbik > Lauvao
Pears + Hairston > Schwartz

Fitz > Weeden or McCoy or Lewis

Spiller >> Hardesty

Stevie > Little
Jones > Gordon - Maybe
Chandler > Watson - At this point in his career

Anderson > Sheard - If you go off Anderson's last year
Dareus > Rubin
Williams >> Taylor
Williams > Rucker

Barnett > Maiva
Sheppard << D'Qwell
Bradham > Michael-Johnson

Glimore > Haden - Or equal to
Wilson < Ward
Byrd >> Young
Williams > Bademosi - Who?

I don't see why any Head Coach wants Cleveland so much more than Buffalo based on roster.

Beyond that I would think Kelly would see Spiller are a superstar in the making and be salivating as to what he could do with him in his offense.

They have no GM. That maybe good maybe bad. No way the Browns let Kelly also be the GM IMO. He doesn't have the pedigree for that. If anything why would Kelly sign up for that job without knowing who he's answering to? It's a known here. How will he view Nix? Who knows. But I think Whaley may actually be the guy he looks at more anyway.

The Bills lease for another 7 years
Russ, not the owner, having final say. The Browns were just sold this past year.

Both small markets

[YardRat]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

No.

[ThunderGun]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

I agree with the point of your post, but you forgot Trent Richardson, and Joe Haden is one of the best corners in the league. He's better that Gilmore at this point.

[GingerP]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

It has nothing to do with the players, although I think Weeden is the preferred QB since he at least has a chance to become a good QB (no shot with Fitz).

They have:

1) Stable ownership - Jimmy Haslem, who just purchased the team, is known in the NFL from being part-owner of the Steelers.

2) Joe Banner - Banner controls the football operations and has a stellar reputation from his 19 years running the Eagles

3) Great facilities - Cleveland built a new stadium to get the team back, and their practice facility is state-of-the-art, a 19 acre complex that houses their training and administrative facilities

The Bills have none of those things. A guy like Chip Kelly is looking for that kind of support to build his program. Look at what he did at Oregon, demanding state of the art facilities be built for his team. Those things mean a lot.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

Generally speaking, a more vibrant city. I know some of you will kill me for saying that but it is the truth.

[don137]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

I think Buffalo has better players but Cleveland has more long term stability from an ownership standpoint. No one knows who will own the Bills after RW passes away where the Cleveland owner is not going anywhere soon.

Having Patriots in the division makes Bills a little less attractive even though Brady probably has only a couple good years left. Steelers are showing their age.

[notacon]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

It has nothing to do with the players, although I think Weeden is the preferred QB since he at least has a chance to become a good QB (no shot with Fitz).

They have:

1) Stable ownership - Jimmy Haslem, who just purchased the team, is known in the NFL from being part-owner of the Steelers.

2) Joe Banner - Banner controls the football operations and has a stellar reputation from his 19 years running the Eagles

3) Great facilities - Cleveland built a new stadium to get the team back, and their practice facility is state-of-the-art, a 19 acre complex that houses their training and administrative facilities

The Bills have none of those things. A guy like Chip Kelly is looking for that kind of support to build his program. Look at what he did at Oregon, demanding state of the art facilities be built for his team. Those things mean a lot.

You hit the nail on the head.

Wilson "stepping down" just added a new level of uncertainty to the club's future. This is bad news for any faithful Bills fan.

Despite the lease the Bills just agreed to, the likelihood of the team staying in Buffalo is as cloudy as ever. There are two things that would stabilize the team and make it attractive to big name HC's.

1. Wilson selling the team before he passes.

2. Agreement to build a new stadium.

No big name coach, like Cowher, would err come to Buffalo with the ownership debacle that is present now.

[Pinkerton Security]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

Generally speaking, a more vibrant city. I know some of you will kill me for saying that but it is the truth.

I disagree wholeheartedly...Cleveland is about as vibrant as a dead skunk. Buffalo isnt much better but Cleveland is a shell

The OP also forgot about Richardson who is one of the best young RBs in the league and Haden as well.

[dannyek71]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

Having Patriots in the division makes Bills a little less attractive even though Brady probably has only a couple good years left.

Sadly, I think TB has many more good years left. I was just at Best Buy earlier today, and those HD cameras are getting better every year!

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

Well, aside from the Richardson mistake,

Mack is far better than Wood. He hasn't missed a single game and made the pro bowl, whereas Wood hasn't completed a single season.
Josh Gordon is a country mile better than Donald Jones, I don't know how you thought otherwise. Gordon nearly matched Jones' career stats in his rookie year.
Jabaal Sheard is better than Mark Anderson. Anderson has two good seasons of his 8 career years, and is a 3rd down lineman. Sheard plays every down and isn't a liability in the run game.

And then you've got our unstable ownership situation and the fact that two of our best players aren't under contract this year. It's not unreasonable for a coach to choose the Browns roster over ours.

[delectrolux]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

Despite the lease the Bills just agreed to, the likelihood of the team staying in Buffalo is as cloudy as ever. There are two things that would stabilize the team and make it attractive to big name HC's.

There is no way the Bills will be leaving Buffalo for 7 years – and NO coaching candidate is worried about what will be happening to a team in 7 years.

That being said, losing a home game to Toronto and always having to beat the Patriots are both on the Cons list. But also getting to play the Jets and Miami for 4 of your games has to look pretty attractive. Better than having to beat the Ravens, Steelers and Bengals for 6 of your games.

[EDS]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

There is no way the Bills will be leaving Buffalo for 7 years – and NO coaching candidate is worried about what will be happening to a team in 7 years.

That being said, losing a home game to Toronto and always having to beat the Patriots are both on the Cons list. But also getting to play the Jets and Miami for 4 of your games has to look pretty attractive. Better than having to beat the Ravens, Steelers and Bengals for 6 of your games.

The lease is not an issue, but a ownership change is - and with Ralph's age and estate issues makes a sale of the team highly likely in the next few years. Obviously with a new owner comes the potential for an entirely new front office, which would create the potential for that front office wanting to bring in its own guy.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

The lease is not an issue, but a ownership change is - and with Ralph's age and estate issues makes a sale of the team highly likely in the next few years. Obviously with a new owner comes the potential for an entirely new front office, which would create the potential for that front office wanting to bring in its own guy.

If the Coach/GM has built a winning organization, they won't have anything to worry about.

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

A big reason is that they have no GM because they're willing to give the coach as much power in personnel decisions as he wants.

Coaches tend to be power hungry and want their guys, when you have no one above you to say no, you ensure you get your guys.

[IAG]

Re: Can someone explain to me how the Browns job is more attractive than ours?

Better ownership and FO situation. Period.