Bill Obrien is staying at PSU as expected.
Obrien staying at PSU
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Obrien staying at PSU
I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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Good to see for PSU. Maybe not as good for Buffalo, as it reduces the pool of candidates by one.
Interestingly, a lot of credit is being given to Terry Pegula, who also was the first to contact BOB about the position in late 2011.Last edited by psubills62; 01-03-2013, 09:24 PM."Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
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Originally posted by Wolffman View PostPegula tossed him $1.2 mil to stay on board.
Not sure why that's worth it for him. He can't go anywhere there for years.
He'll be fine. Everyone knows what he's going to have to deal with and expectations will be low. He'll still be highly respected by NFL teams/execs each year."Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
- Nicholas Cummings
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If we start hiring Penn State guys, I can only assume somebody at OBD is fondling kids and needs to hire people with experience in covering it up.
I hope PSU's entire football program folds and never comes back.Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.
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Originally posted by psubills62 View PostHe got more than just money. Assistants got raises, and promises were made about structural changes in the athletic department (like getting a permanent AD who isn't an a-hole like Joyner).
He'll be fine. Everyone knows what he's going to have to deal with and expectations will be low. He'll still be highly respected by NFL teams/execs each year.
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Originally posted by Wolffman View PostHe can't go bowling for another 3 years. By that time, the team will be so wiped out due to loss of scholarships they won't field a full team till something like 2020. Why would he take that over an NFL gig?
Loss of scholarships certainly makes his job tough. However, it should be noted that PSU played with ~68 scholarship players this year, which is only 3 more than what they'll have under sanctions. And almost none of the active players this year were recruited by Bill O'Brien and his staff. If he sticks around for 3-4 more years, then I have confidence with the QB's that are coming in, that PSU will stay afloat.
Originally posted by JoeMama View PostIf we start hiring Penn State guys, I can only assume somebody at OBD is fondling kids and needs to hire people with experience in covering it up.
I hope PSU's entire football program folds and never comes back."Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
- Nicholas Cummings
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I would stay at PSU if I were in his shoes. With low expectations he has job security and is showing loyalty. He will be getting a nice paycheck for years as opposed to a potential NFL short run flop followed by unemployment.
Aside from ego... whay wouold any successful coach in college leave a cushy job for the NFL?
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Originally posted by psubills62 View PostGood luck with that.
I guess I can live with that as a plan B over wishing they'd just disband the whole thing.Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.
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Originally posted by JoeMama View PostIt's been an irrelevant football program for a long time.
I guess I can live with that as a plan B over wishing they'd just disband the whole thing."Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
- Nicholas Cummings
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Originally posted by psubills62 View PostI don't know his motives. I could speculate, but that would be a pretty long post and really doesn't mean much. What I do know is that coaches often have a lot more reasons to stick around than just bowl games. Looking back at the situation, it appears to be primarily a power play that succeeded in a big way.
Loss of scholarships certainly makes his job tough. However, it should be noted that PSU played with ~68 scholarship players this year, which is only 3 more than what they'll have under sanctions. And almost none of the active players this year were recruited by Bill O'Brien and his staff. If he sticks around for 3-4 more years, then I have confidence with the QB's that are coming in, that PSU will stay afloat.
Good luck with that.
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Originally posted by Wolffman View PostI thought they were losing something like 10 scholarships a year?
Also, there is a small possibility that the lawsuit by the state of PA could create an injunction and/or decrease the sanctions."Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
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I've admired his accomplishments at Penn State considering the tough circumstances of the past season, but I also admired the attitude and approach he took to the Penn State job. My admiration would have taken a big hit had he walked away after one year. I know he has a perfect right to do so as long as the terms of the contract are met, but he gave the impression that the Penn State position was more than a job, that he was all in, in terms of commitment to get Penn State past the NCAA sanctions and all the Sandusky fallout. I know the Penn State program is going to struggle for a few years, but I think the strength of O'Brien's character will have some value in the post-sanction rebuilding efforts, should he stay long term.I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.
I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.
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Originally posted by psubills62 View PostStarting with the class of 2013, they have a max incoming player limit of 15 (instead of 25). Starting in 2014, the maximum scholarship players on roster is 65. Both of these last for four years. It's not a progressive loss of scholarships that accumulates, more of a "flat" loss. So between 2014 and 2017, they'll have a max of 65 scholarship players on roster each year.
Also, there is a small possibility that the lawsuit by the state of PA could create an injunction and/or decrease the sanctions.
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Originally posted by GingerP View PostThe inability to play in the postseason is what really hurts. If you are a kid that is heavily recruited and are going to a big program, you want to play in the conference championships and bowl games. You want to be on TV.
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Originally posted by psubills62 View PostStarting with the class of 2013, they have a max incoming player limit of 15 (instead of 25). Starting in 2014, the maximum scholarship players on roster is 65. Both of these last for four years. It's not a progressive loss of scholarships that accumulates, more of a "flat" loss. So between 2014 and 2017, they'll have a max of 65 scholarship players on roster each year.
Also, there is a small possibility that the lawsuit by the state of PA could create an injunction and/or decrease the sanctions.
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