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  • IlluminatusUIUC
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    • Sep 2012
    • 8966

    QB drafting "rules"

    Every so often, you see people list off certain criteria for rating QBs. I don't know if this has been run on the current crop of QBs, so I figured I'd do it myself.

    The Bill Parcells "rules"
    1) He must be a senior (I think he means academic senior)
    2) He must be a graduate
    3) He must be a 3 year starter
    4) He must have 23 wins

    There's also the 26/27/60 rule: You need
    1) a 26 on the Wonderlic
    2) 27 starts
    3) 60% career completions

    So I'll assume that everyone who is an academic senior will actually complete their degree, and that everyone reaches that required Wonderlic score since those haven't been given yet. These are the names I've seen mentioned.

    Parcells 26/27/60
    Geno Smith Pass Pass
    Matt Barkley Pass Pass
    Tyler Wilson Fail (2 year starter, not enough wins) Fail (too few starts)
    Ryan Nassib Pass Pass (just barely - 60.3% completions)
    Tyler Bray Fail (2 year starter, too few wins) Fail (Too few starts)
    Landry Jones Pass Pass
    Tajh Boyd Fail (2 year starter) Pass
    Mike Glennon Fail (2 year starter, too few wins) Fail (Too few starts)
    Aaron Murray Pass Pass
    Zac Dysert Fail (Too few wins) Pass
    Obviously that list will pare down some after the combine.


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  • Albany,n.y.
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 5599

    #2
    Re: QB drafting "rules"

    His rules are outdated. They worked about 10 years ago, not today. They became obsolete about the same time underclass rookie QBs started winning in their 1st season in the NFL.
    Last edited by Albany,n.y.; 01-08-2013, 04:47 PM.

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    • CleveSteve
      Registered User
      • Apr 2011
      • 999

      #3
      Re: QB drafting "rules"

      The Bill Parcells "rules"
      1) He must be a senior (I think he means academic senior)
      I think our GM messed this up when he drafted Weeden. Thanks for the clarification.

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      • CleveSteve
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        • Apr 2011
        • 999

        #4
        Re: QB drafting "rules"

        60% rule is definitely outdated... too many different offenses to use one number. 60% in a spread, which is about half of college football now, is actually pretty bad.

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        • EDS
          Registered User
          • Jan 2003
          • 5216

          #5
          Re: QB drafting "rules"

          Originally posted by CleveSteve View Post
          60% rule is definitely outdated... too many different offenses to use one number. 60% in a spread, which is about half of college football now, is actually pretty bad.
          It still works, it is just a floor on the QBs performance. After that you need to look at the rest of the package, including system, physical skills, level of competition, leadership, etc.

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          • YardRat
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            • Dec 2004
            • 86297

            #6
            Re: QB drafting "rules"

            Murray would be at the top of my list, but he's staying in school. I don't want anything to do with either Smith or Barkley. I guess that leaves me with Jones or Nassib.
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            • IlluminatusUIUC
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              • Sep 2012
              • 8966

              #7
              Re: QB drafting "rules"

              Originally posted by Albany,n.y. View Post
              His rules are outdated. They worked about 10 years ago, not today. They became obsolete about the same time underclass rookie QBs started winning in their 1st season in the NFL.
              It's arguable they never worked at all. Parcells' best QB pick was Bledsoe, who didn't even pass (he didn't graduate). But it's a conversation starter, nontheless.


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              • Night Train
                Retired - On Several Levels
                • Jul 2005
                • 33117

                #8
                Re: QB drafting "rules"

                Aaron Rodgers is a fail.

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                • Fixxxer
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 676

                  #9
                  Re: QB drafting "rules"

                  How about EJ Manuel?

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                  • IlluminatusUIUC
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 8966

                    #10
                    Re: QB drafting "rules"

                    Originally posted by Fixxxer View Post
                    How about EJ Manuel?
                    Sorry, forgot him. He fails Parcells' (2 year starter b/c he sat behind Ponder) but passes the 26-27-60 rule.


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                    • Fixxxer
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 676

                      #11
                      Re: QB drafting "rules"

                      Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                      Sorry, forgot him. He fails Parcells' (2 year starter b/c he sat behind Ponder) but passes the 26-27-60 rule.
                      Thanks, I like this kid a lot.

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                      • Ingtar33
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                        • Sep 2002
                        • 15475

                        #12
                        Re: QB drafting "rules"

                        number of starts is one rule i always favored... it seems like guys who don't have at least 26 college starts bust at an insane rate.

                        college QBs who can't complete 60% of their passes in college also seem to struggle in the pros. so that's another one i'd hold onto.
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                        • X-Era
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                          • Feb 2005
                          • 27670

                          #13
                          Re: QB drafting "rules"

                          Cam Newton

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                          • Mski
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                            • Mar 2006
                            • 6753

                            #14
                            Re: QB drafting "rules"

                            Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                            Cam Newton
                            and what did he do this year? after teams have a full year+ of tape to study of him
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                            • jamze132
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                              • Jun 2003
                              • 29410

                              #15
                              Re: QB drafting "rules"

                              I don't think it's safe to assume that some of those guys will get a 26 on the wonderlick.

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