Out of all the QBs this year Bray has the strongest arm. Seems to be this years Stafford or Cutler. But why is he never talked highly? He has the most NFL ready arm over Geno and Nassib. Hes big, good in the pocket it seems, and hes very accurate. Every deep ball ive seen outa him has been perfect, so whats wrong with him? Because im starting to like him over everyone. Tyler Wilson is pathetic, Nassib has alot of ?s, Geno is only good vs bad teams, and Glennon plays in a small school. While im at it, why in the hell does anyone like Wilson? He looks terrible, ive never seen him make a NFL throw. His arm is weak as hell, no zip, and ive seen him throw so many ducks, which shows he doesnt have a great grip of the football, and its impossible to be good when your hands are to small to grip the ball. Grip and throwing should be natural. In the NFL its all mental, you should be able to have enough faith and control of the ball, that you dont even have to pay any attention to motion, or fundementals, just get it in the place you need to. Bray has the best control of the ball over any QB. He might make some stupid decisions, but he puts the ball where he wants and has no issue getting it there. Just sometimes isnt the correct choice.
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Originally posted by Cali512 View PostOut of all the QBs this year Bray has the strongest arm. Seems to be this years Stafford or Cutler. But why is he never talked highly? He has the most NFL ready arm over Geno and Nassib. Hes big, good in the pocket it seems, and hes very accurate. Every deep ball ive seen outa him has been perfect, so whats wrong with him? Because im starting to like him over everyone. Tyler Wilson is pathetic, Nassib has alot of ?s, Geno is only good vs bad teams, and Glennon plays in a small school. While im at it, why in the hell does anyone like Wilson? He looks terrible, ive never seen him make a NFL throw. His arm is weak as hell, no zip, and ive seen him throw so many ducks, which shows he doesnt have a great grip of the football, and its impossible to be good when your hands are to small to grip the ball. Grip and throwing should be natural. In the NFL its all mental, you should be able to have enough faith and control of the ball, that you dont even have to pay any attention to motion, or fundementals, just get it in the place you need to. Bray has the best control of the ball over any QB. He might make some stupid decisions, but he puts the ball where he wants and has no issue getting it there. Just sometimes isnt the correct choice.Last edited by The Jokeman; 01-14-2013, 09:02 PM.
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Originally posted by The Jokeman View PostTo me the only QB with a top 10 pick is Geno Smith. You can't dismiss his numbers from last season and the size/skills he shows. After that it's a big question marks. I think your comparison to Cutler and Bray is fair but that's a huge gamble to take and not sure I'd take it unless we trade down and amass another pick in the first three rounds. Yet I will say I do favor Bray over Wilson as I don't get the love either. Same thing for Glennon. I admit also intrigued with EJ Manual in Round 2. Though if I were to pick any QB to want in this draft it has to be Geno.
Geno has looked god awfull so many times this season. Especially when hes needed to show up. He has great playmakers, and had good protection last year, but he still had games were he was terrible. Id say hes the biggest gamble this whole draft, because you can throw some of his tape on and say hes a top 5 pick, then others and you wouldnt say any higher than 3rd.Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions
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Originally posted by Cali512 View PostGeno has looked god awfull so many times this season. Especially when hes needed to show up. He has great playmakers, and had good protection last year, but he still had games were he was terrible. Id say hes the biggest gamble this whole draft, because you can throw some of his tape on and say hes a top 5 pick, then others and you wouldnt say any higher than 3rd.
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Originally posted by The Jokeman View Postand the tape on most of the rest of the guys listed don't show to be a top 5 picks at all. QB is tough position to predict.
Bray and Glennon look the best if you just look at the tape and ignore the rest. Barkleys not even an option to me, and Geno thank god wont be there to gamble on. Hell be the chiefs issue, but I dont hate him, but he scares me to much. Early in the season he looked amazing and i thought he would be perfect, but then he played real teams and sucked. Bray, Glennon, EJ or Nassib is my pickNot here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions
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Please, no Geno. Let's go defense, WR or oline at 8, and see who starts to drop to the top of the second round before even considering trading back up.YardRat Wall of Fame
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I think Geno's expectations kinda blew everything out of proportion. He got whupped by K-State, I admit that, but what other godawful performances are we talking about? The Pinstripe Bowl? He went 19/28 (68%) for 200 yds and 2 TDs. Not eye-popping numbers but "godawful"? Really? The guy threw 6 picks in over 500 attempts. That's a staggering feat.
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Saying Tyler Wilson has a weak arm makes me think you really haven't seen enough of Tyler Wilson, his arm is plenty strong enough to make any pass to add with his accuracy and touch. Don't be surprised if the Chiefs take him with the 1st pick. I wouldn't complain with selecting Bray, but he certainly wouldn't be my first choice.
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The thing with Bray is he had 2 pretty damn good WR at TENN and his OL was not bad.
The guy never won a big game at all...Forces throws and makes stupid mistakes. I know all QB's do that but the guy was AWFUL under pressure.
Not big on him at all....
Im an SEC guy and I dont see him panning out in the NFL, if we want a clip board QB then go ahead and draft the young Tyler Bray....GO Gators!!!!!!
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Originally posted by kishoph View PostSaying Tyler Wilson has a weak arm makes me think you really haven't seen enough of Tyler Wilson, his arm is plenty strong enough to make any pass to add with his accuracy and touch. Don't be surprised if the Chiefs take him with the 1st pick. I wouldn't complain with selecting Bray, but he certainly wouldn't be my first choice.
Tyler Wilson is my fav QB in this draft class.
I know some of you like Ryan Mallett then you will like Tyler Wilson that much better, great arm and can move around a bit.....Will take a hit in the pocket and can throw every route on the field.GO Gators!!!!!!
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Because he's not the things you say he is. Good accuracy and Bray, they don't belong together. He's below 60% for his career, yet you tag him as accurate. Had two of the more dynamic WRs in CFB and still couldnt crack the 60% barrier. Bray is more like Osweiler than Cutler or Stafford.
If you think Tyler Wilson's arm is weak you should take a step back and reconsider how you judge players.
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im not sure how much you watched this year, but Bray was highly inconsistent. he had times when he was accurate, but it was followed up with some off target throws. And while he has a big arm, he is built like a twig.. he looks fragile to me.
i also never saw the clutch factor out of him. i probably watched 5 tennessee games this season.. he looked the same pretty much every game.. some great plays and some awful ones.. he does remind me a lot of glennon.. same description.."All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe
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