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  • BLeonard
    BoB Sabermetrician
    • Jan 2003
    • 4625

    NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

    The NFL is considering revisions to the "Rooney Rule," which mandates that teams must interview at least one minority candidate for front-office and head coaching jobs.


    "We feel very strongly there's a need to extend the rule," Wooten said. "I'm disappointed, but not discouraged because we have a plan of action. We're putting it together right now and we're going to present our thoughts and ideas to the league. We'll be working together to make something happen."
    I dunno what more they can really do... Force teams to hire minority Coaches/GM's?

    In the end, what's more important here? Teams hiring more minorities, or teams hiring who they feel is best for the job?

    -Bill
  • MitchMurrayDowntown
    Skoobasaurus-Rex
    • Oct 2011
    • 22284

    #2
    Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

    Winning is most important.

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    • Mouldsie
      Registered User
      • Aug 2012
      • 5661

      #3
      Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

      I think that minority coaching hires have come a long way to where this rule is unnecessary

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      • jamze132
        Don’t hate…
        • Jun 2003
        • 29346

        #4
        Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

        So no one wants to hire Lovie Smith who was fired after a 10-6 season. Uh, there's a reason and its not because he's black. He got fired for a reason and its not because he's black.

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        • BLeonard
          BoB Sabermetrician
          • Jan 2003
          • 4625

          #5
          Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

          Jim Caldwell nearly went undefeated as a rookie coach in Indianapolis three years ago and he's one win away from returning to the Super Bowl as an assistant with Baltimore.

          Yet Caldwell didn't get one interview for any of the eight coaching vacancies in the NFL this year.
          Attention: Dip**** who wrote this article... Baltimore played in the Wild Card round... So, when exactly was he supposed to get an interview...?

          -Bill
          Last edited by BLeonard; 01-18-2013, 05:39 PM.

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          • mightysimi
            Buckle me in on the highway of sin
            • Mar 2010
            • 6334

            #6
            Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

            There aren't enough white players in the league. We should make a rule that there has to be at least a certain amount of white players on each team because it isn't fair. It sounds just as ridiculous the other way around too.

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            • notacon
              Registered User
              • Aug 2012
              • 33026

              #7
              Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

              Originally posted by mightysimi View Post
              There aren't enough white players in the league. We should make a rule that there has to be at least a certain amount of white players on each team because it isn't fair. It sounds just as ridiculous the other way around too.
              But, that's not what the Rooney rule is.

              The Rooney rule is meant to expose team GM's and especially owners, to those quality minority candidates that otherwise might not even get an interview.

              This fosters familiarity where one owner may have interviewed a black coach, and was impressed with their presentation, and then talks about that person, in the normal course of events for being an owner of only 32 franchises in the world, and that same guy may be given a longer look the next time around with another team. It's super elite networking.

              It is an eminently reasonable "rule" for developing a natural integration, without the type of quotas you refer to.

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              • mightysimi
                Buckle me in on the highway of sin
                • Mar 2010
                • 6334

                #8
                Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

                Originally posted by notacon View Post
                But, that's not what the Rooney rule is.

                The Rooney rule is meant to expose team GM's and especially owners, to those quality minority candidates that otherwise might not even get an interview.

                This fosters familiarity where one owner may have interviewed a black coach, and was impressed with their presentation, and then talks about that person, in the normal course of events for being an owner of only 32 franchises in the world, and that same guy may be given a longer look the next time around with another team. It's super elite networking.

                It is an eminently reasonable "rule" for developing a natural integration, without the type of quotas you refer to.
                If they were good candidates, they would get an interview. This assumes there is a secret underground network of minority coaches that no one knows about. It ends up being a farce where teams interview someone who they might not be interested in because they are a minority coach. Maybe at one time there was racist reasons for not hiring a minority coach but this is 2013. People in the public eye can't get away with blatant racism without being called on it. Point is, these guys are employers who can employ who ever they want. It all boils down to production.

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                • ServoBillieves
                  The Voice of Reason
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 6106

                  #9
                  Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

                  So... the change to the rule is going to demand a team chooses a black/hispanic/asian head coach just because NFL HR doesn't like that only white skinned coaches were hired this year?

                  That's... Wow that is kind of insane.
                  Bye Bye Brady...

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                  • jpdex12
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 2670

                    #10
                    Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

                    Originally posted by ServoBillieves View Post
                    So... the change to the rule is going to demand a team chooses a black/hispanic/asian head coach just because NFL HR doesn't like that only white skinned coaches were hired this year?

                    That's... Wow that is kind of insane.
                    This country is going to hell...what the f is wrong with people?
                    Where else would you rather be than right here right now?

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                    • Bmax
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1711

                      #11
                      Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

                      Look the real truth is that the NFl wants to maybe expand it to coordinators.. Most of the Coordinators on offense are white with only a few exceptions.. Most of the Black or Hispanic coordinators are defensive guys...It's just about giving a guy an opportunity to interview.. The reason for the rule in the first place was to give guys the chance to interview and compete for jobs. In the past interviews were not even given.. some never had the chance to go and present themselves in front of owners and gm's.

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                      • Night Train
                        Retired - On Several Levels
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 33117

                        #12
                        Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

                        Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
                        http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/88...sure-diversity



                        I dunno what more they can really do... Force teams to hire minority Coaches/GM's?

                        In the end, what's more important here? Teams hiring more minorities, or teams hiring who they feel is best for the job?

                        -Bill
                        With all the bad publicity concerning head trama cases, the NFL seems to be going a bit overboard trying to be PC with the whole minority hiring issue. It's a failing idea and just makes certain coaches look like they are being used.
                        Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                        • MikeInRoch
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 10446

                          #13
                          Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

                          Originally posted by jamze132 View Post
                          So no one wants to hire Lovie Smith who was fired after a 10-6 season. Uh, there's a reason and its not because he's black. He got fired for a reason and its not because he's black.
                          I *love* the assumption of racism, with zero evidence. Very progressive.

                          NFL Owners and GMs would hire someone who was purple if they thought they could win games.
                          "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                          "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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                          • gr8slayer
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 20796

                            #14
                            Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

                            If I'm a minority, I'm pretty pissed at this rule in general.

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                            • Mouldsie
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 5661

                              #15
                              Re: NFL looking to adjust Rooney Rule

                              Originally posted by ServoBillieves View Post
                              So... the change to the rule is going to demand a team chooses a black/hispanic/asian head coach just because NFL HR doesn't like that only white skinned coaches were hired this year?

                              That's... Wow that is kind of insane.
                              I know if I was an owner I wouldnt hire the white guy above because he's clearly too illiterate and ignorant to be in a position of power.

                              Just read the article, they want to expand the rooney rule to GM searches, makes sense.

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