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Cali512
01-27-2013, 10:40 PM
Im assuming we get a QB in FA. Bc i dont see a QB in the first 2 rounds. Vick/Smith/Moore

KC- Luke Joeckel T
Jack- Jarvis Jones OLB/DE
Oak- Star Lotulelei DT
Phil- I really dont see anyone here, so im calling this as a trade down, but for my mocks sake, Jake Mathews
Det- Demontre Moore DE
Clev- Bjoern Werner OLB/DE
Ariz- Eric Fisher OT
Buf- Ezekial Ansah DE/OLB


2nd- Matt Elam SS- I understand when you have needs. But all the great MLBs are going to be off the board in the 2nd. This is a year that teams need to find replacements, especially in the later rounds. Balt, Chic, Cinc possibly. Elam has been clutch, is a big hitter, and makes plays. Hes fn amazing and hits hard as ****! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rREjDTpTedE Every single hit is amazing
3rd- Matt Scott QB


4th-7th- Mixes of LBs, a RB, and a TE

Now with Scott this is my thoughts. From watching him he reminds you of 2 players, Kaepernick and Wilson. He is the only QB in the class that is mobile and can make his own throws. Ran a no huddle offense in Arizona. His main keys are leadership, mobility, and he can make any play happen anywhere, at anytime. Hes 6-3, 197, which is skinny, but he can gain 10 pounds and make it almost un noticeable.

He did get benched when he one the starting job early in his career. Nick Foles took over and everyone saw how that went. But they had an offense more suited for Scott this year and he did amazing.

I think we can get a good WR in FA
I mean look at them

Dwayne Bowe (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4184/Dwayne-Bowe)
Mike Wallace (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5329/Mike-Wallace)
Greg Jennings (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3652/Greg-Jennings)
Wes Welker (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/2964/Wes-Welker)
Danny Amendola (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4991/Danny-Amendola)
Brian Hartline (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5191/Brian-Hartline)
Julian Edelman (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5440/Julian-Edelman)
Donnie Avery (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4724/Donnie-Avery)
Terrell Owens (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/718/Terrell-Owens)
Jerome Simpson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4859/Jerome-Simpson)
Kevin Ogletree (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5164/Kevin-Ogletree)
Randy Moss (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1655/Randy-Moss)
Braylon Edwards (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3126/Braylon-Edwards)
Donald Driver (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1748/Donald-Driver)
Austin Collie (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5176/Austin-Collie)
Josh Cribbs (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3469/Josh-Cribbs)
Domenik Hixon (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3945/Domenik-Hixon)
Ramses Barden (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5207/Ramses-Barden)
Jabar Gaffney (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1716/Jabar-Gaffney)
Brandon Stokley (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1501/Brandon-Stokley)
Brandon Gibson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5291/Brandon-Gibson)
Plaxico Burress (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/19/Plaxico-Burress)
Mohamed Massaquoi (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5233/Mohamed-Massaquoi)
Johnny Knox (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5363/Johnny-Knox)
Chad Johnson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/2544/Chad-Johnson)
Deion Branch (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1132/Deion-Branch)
Mark Clayton (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3150/Mark-Clayton)
Donte' Stallworth (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1043/Donte'-Stallworth)
Brandon Tate (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5140/Brandon-Tate)
Ted Ginn (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4168/Ted-Ginn)
Devery Henderson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/43/Devery-Henderson)
Louis Murphy (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5214/Louis-Murphy)
Derek Hagan (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3649/Derek-Hagan)
Chaz Schilens (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4964/Chaz-Schilens)
Sammie Stroughter (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5441/sammie-stroughter)
Steve Smith (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4227/Steve-Smith) (STL)
Devin Aromashodu (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3758/Devin-Aromashodu)
Adrian Arrington (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4655/Adrian-Arrington)
Courtney Roby (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3207/Courtney-Roby)
Jason Hill (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4191/Jason-Hill)
Greg Camarillo (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3871/Greg-Camarillo)
Kassim Osgood (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/600/Kassim-Osgood)
Roscoe Parrish (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3197/Roscoe-Parrish)
Big Mike Williams (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3124/mike-williams)
Lee Evans (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/26/Lee-Evans)
Micheal Spurlock (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4145/Micheal-Spurlock)
Mike Sims-Walker (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4243/Mike-Sims-Walker)
Legedu Naanee (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4271/Legedu-Naanee)
Ruvell Martin (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3844/ruvell-martin)
Legedu Naanee (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4271/legedu-naanee)

Id take 20 over Jones/Smith/Martin

Then for LB id look in free agents too. Get Bradie James or someone whos played ILB. I dont think our LBs are as bad as people say, i think Wanny had them in horrible position half the time. I mean 90% of the time it was gapping holes, not missed tackles. Thats usually coaching, especially if it happens all the time. Most LBs, if they have bad instincts, will usually be in the right area some of the time, because if the coach calls up the play right, you dont need ur instincts. You just needa get to the spot your supposed to. Our players were constantly moving to the wrong spot as soon as the play was called. Our LBs were matched up stupidly, we had players being used completely wrong. It just was pathetic


So we improve
QB with Vick/Smith/Moore and a mobile strong armed rookie in the 3rd
WR with a FA
DE/OLB with a monster
George Wilson with a hard hitting playmaker
And Sheppard with a solid vet FA

NOT THE DUDE...
01-27-2013, 10:58 PM
:duh:

Cali512
01-27-2013, 11:03 PM
:duh:


Bro, i wouldnt talk

Mouldsie
01-28-2013, 12:05 AM
I like it. I would lean towards a position other than SS only because I think Aaron Williams needs to switch positions and it's a decently deep position in this draft. Would prefer to take a shot at a WR/LB if one of comparable talent/grade is there. No problems with Ansah. With more experience and coaching he will be a beast. Where is Margus Hunt projected because adding him late in the draft as a developmental guy would be quite an athletic front!

Cali512
01-28-2013, 12:55 AM
I like it. I would lean towards a position other than SS only because I think Aaron Williams needs to switch positions and it's a decently deep position in this draft. Would prefer to take a shot at a WR/LB if one of comparable talent/grade is there. No problems with Ansah. With more experience and coaching he will be a beast. Where is Margus Hunt projected because adding him late in the draft as a developmental guy would be quite an athletic front!



If you watch Elams videos, youll see how amazing he is. He hits like Ray Lewis (half his hits he barely flinches). He makes plays, and everything. Its one of those picks that win championships. When you can add a playmaker who can hit like he can. When one of the biggest issues was plays being made on the D whether it came in ints, hits, tfl. This guy can do it all, play in the box, level anyone coming in the center of the field. We do needa WR, but if we can get a decent vet who has been a number 2 before, then go out and get a late round WR then we should. Just go out and get a guy who can make plays even when not open. Like Devin Thomas or Hardy were supposed to be, but if you look at some young small school guys who are hungry and athletic, they're going to go after every pass like its to save there life. Which we need. Id look for the biggest freak past the 5th round. Guys who are from small schools but built and are strong. In the NFL to be a big time reciever you need one or more of 3 things, length, bulk, and smarts.

Cali512
01-28-2013, 01:01 AM
Im assuming we get a QB in FA. Bc i dont see a QB in the first 2 rounds. Vick/Smith/Moore

KC- Luke Joeckel T
Jack- Jarvis Jones OLB/DE
Oak- Star Lotulelei DT
Phil- I really dont see anyone here, so im calling this as a trade down, but for my mocks sake, Jake Mathews
Det- Demontre Moore DE
Clev- Bjoern Werner OLB/DE
Ariz- Eric Fisher OT
Buf- Ezekial Ansah DE/OLB


2nd- Matt Elam SS- I understand when you have needs. But all the great MLBs are going to be off the board in the 2nd. This is a year that teams need to find replacements, especially in the later rounds. Balt, Chic, Cinc possibly. Elam has been clutch, is a big hitter, and makes plays. Hes fn amazing and hits hard as ****! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rREjDTpTedE Every single hit is amazing
3rd- Matt Scott QB


4th-7th- Mixes of LBs, a RB, and a TE

Now with Scott this is my thoughts. From watching him he reminds you of 2 players, Kaepernick and Wilson. He is the only QB in the class that is mobile and can make his own throws. Ran a no huddle offense in Arizona. His main keys are leadership, mobility, and he can make any play happen anywhere, at anytime. Hes 6-3, 197, which is skinny, but he can gain 10 pounds and make it almost un noticeable.

He did get benched when he one the starting job early in his career. Nick Foles took over and everyone saw how that went. But they had an offense more suited for Scott this year and he did amazing.

I think we can get a good WR in FA
I mean look at them

Dwayne Bowe (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4184/Dwayne-Bowe)
Mike Wallace (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5329/Mike-Wallace)
Greg Jennings (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3652/Greg-Jennings)
Wes Welker (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/2964/Wes-Welker)
Danny Amendola (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4991/Danny-Amendola)
Brian Hartline (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5191/Brian-Hartline)
Julian Edelman (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5440/Julian-Edelman)
Donnie Avery (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4724/Donnie-Avery)
Terrell Owens (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/718/Terrell-Owens)
Jerome Simpson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4859/Jerome-Simpson)
Kevin Ogletree (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5164/Kevin-Ogletree)
Randy Moss (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1655/Randy-Moss)
Braylon Edwards (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3126/Braylon-Edwards)
Donald Driver (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1748/Donald-Driver)
Austin Collie (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5176/Austin-Collie)
Josh Cribbs (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3469/Josh-Cribbs)
Domenik Hixon (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3945/Domenik-Hixon)
Ramses Barden (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5207/Ramses-Barden)
Jabar Gaffney (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1716/Jabar-Gaffney)
Brandon Stokley (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1501/Brandon-Stokley)
Brandon Gibson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5291/Brandon-Gibson)
Plaxico Burress (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/19/Plaxico-Burress)
Mohamed Massaquoi (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5233/Mohamed-Massaquoi)
Johnny Knox (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5363/Johnny-Knox)
Chad Johnson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/2544/Chad-Johnson)
Deion Branch (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1132/Deion-Branch)
Mark Clayton (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3150/Mark-Clayton)
Donte' Stallworth (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1043/Donte'-Stallworth)
Brandon Tate (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5140/Brandon-Tate)
Ted Ginn (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4168/Ted-Ginn)
Devery Henderson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/43/Devery-Henderson)
Louis Murphy (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5214/Louis-Murphy)
Derek Hagan (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3649/Derek-Hagan)
Chaz Schilens (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4964/Chaz-Schilens)
Sammie Stroughter (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5441/sammie-stroughter)
Steve Smith (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4227/Steve-Smith) (STL)
Devin Aromashodu (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3758/Devin-Aromashodu)
Adrian Arrington (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4655/Adrian-Arrington)
Courtney Roby (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3207/Courtney-Roby)
Jason Hill (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4191/Jason-Hill)
Greg Camarillo (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3871/Greg-Camarillo)
Kassim Osgood (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/600/Kassim-Osgood)
Roscoe Parrish (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3197/Roscoe-Parrish)
Big Mike Williams (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3124/mike-williams)
Lee Evans (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/26/Lee-Evans)
Micheal Spurlock (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4145/Micheal-Spurlock)
Mike Sims-Walker (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4243/Mike-Sims-Walker)
Legedu Naanee (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4271/Legedu-Naanee)
Ruvell Martin (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3844/ruvell-martin)
Legedu Naanee (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4271/legedu-naanee)

Id take 20 over Jones/Smith/Martin

Then for LB id look in free agents too. Get Bradie James or someone whos played ILB. I dont think our LBs are as bad as people say, i think Wanny had them in horrible position half the time. I mean 90% of the time it was gapping holes, not missed tackles. Thats usually coaching, especially if it happens all the time. Most LBs, if they have bad instincts, will usually be in the right area some of the time, because if the coach calls up the play right, you dont need ur instincts. You just needa get to the spot your supposed to. Our players were constantly moving to the wrong spot as soon as the play was called. Our LBs were matched up stupidly, we had players being used completely wrong. It just was pathetic


So we improve
QB with Vick/Smith/Moore and a mobile strong armed rookie in the 3rd
WR with a FA
DE/OLB with a monster
George Wilson with a hard hitting playmaker
And Sheppard with a solid vet FA


People needa look at Scott more. He beat USC and Oklahoma state. Also took Stanford to OT. Beat Nevada in there bowl game, they actually blew out oklahoma state. His team got 30+ points 10/13 games this year,


Individually he had

Only 2 games with under 200 yds which isnt bad, Geno was 2 yards from having 2 of his own. Andrew Lucks last year he had 2 100 yd games
2 games with 400+ yds vs Oregon State and Stanford (more than Luck)
9/13 games he had 2+ passing TDs (6 3 TD games, 1 4 TD game)
Had 6 rushing TDs also last year, each in different games


I like this kid alot now


Im not saying hes Luck by any stretch of the imagination. Its just that he was the top QB of the past 10 yrs to come out so its fun to compare his stats

YardRat
01-28-2013, 05:46 AM
I like the Scott pick, been pimping him here and there for awhile.

coastal
01-28-2013, 06:57 AM
All about Matt Scott

Mr. Miyagi
01-28-2013, 07:46 AM
I hate all of it but nonetheless very well thought out at least. Kudos.

Fixxxer
01-28-2013, 08:08 AM
What's the catch with Elam? With that kind of highlight reel he should be a 1st rounder, is he overagressive? The Jets draft in front of us in the second and they have a big need at safety, he might not make it to our pick.

gonzo1105
01-28-2013, 10:29 AM
What's the catch with Elam? With that kind of highlight reel he should be a 1st rounder, is he overagressive? The Jets draft in front of us in the second and they have a big need at safety, he might not make it to our pick.

he's an in the box SS. He played LB in high school and transititioned to S in college. Very strong hitter and will come up and put a lick on you but his weakness is his cover ability. He is very comparable to Donte Whitner actually in my opinion with a little more bulk

CleveSteve
01-28-2013, 10:34 AM
Matt Elam is the second-best safety in this class IMO after Vaccaro. I think Reid is overrated. I think he could go to the Ravens in the first. Heck, he could go to the Bengals in the first if Ogletree is gone.

Also, Jake Matthews is not in this draft. Philly should take an OL (Fisher?), but might take Milliner if he's there. I think Kelly is more likely to wait and take Manuel or Scott in the 4th or 5th than draft Smith in the first as well.

I also think you'd be regretting giving Geno Smith to the Jets for a decade to take Ansah there.

Mouldsie
01-28-2013, 11:13 AM
he's an in the box SS. He played LB in high school and transititioned to S in college. Very strong hitter and will come up and put a lick on you but his weakness is his cover ability. He is very comparable to Donte Whitner actually in my opinion with a little more bulk
Oddly Whitner was a corner in HS and early on

IlluminatusUIUC
01-28-2013, 11:35 AM
If we passed on Geno Smith for a project DE I would flip out.

Bert102176
01-28-2013, 04:43 PM
People needa look at Scott more. He beat USC and Oklahoma state. Also took Stanford to OT. Beat Nevada in there bowl game, they actually blew out oklahoma state. His team got 30+ points 10/13 games this year,


Individually he had

Only 2 games with under 200 yds which isnt bad, Geno was 2 yards from having 2 of his own. Andrew Lucks last year he had 2 100 yd games
2 games with 400+ yds vs Oregon State and Stanford (more than Luck)
9/13 games he had 2+ passing TDs (6 3 TD games, 1 4 TD game)
Had 6 rushing TDs also last year, each in different games


I like this kid alot now


Im not saying hes Luck by any stretch of the imagination. Its just that he was the top QB of the past 10 yrs to come out so its fun to compare his stats


If we passed on Geno Smith for a project DE I would flip out.

Y Geno is not that great I think EJ is better then him actually

Cali512
01-29-2013, 01:53 AM
he's an in the box SS. He played LB in high school and transititioned to S in college. Very strong hitter and will come up and put a lick on you but his weakness is his cover ability. He is very comparable to Donte Whitner actually in my opinion with a little more bulk



Far bigger hitter

Cali512
01-29-2013, 01:57 AM
I had Geno going to Oak, but forgot there glaring need at DT, and forgot bout Star somehow. Id give him to Clev or Az. Mathews was listed on Walter-F, and that was the database i was using (not always accurate, but the easiest to use for mocks)

venis2k1
01-29-2013, 05:15 AM
If we pass on the #1 qb in the draft to take a "Raw Project DE" (after shelling out over 100 million dollars at the position less than a year ago)

Then take a SS at the top of the second, while ignoring CB completly in your draft. I will jam a screwdriver in my eyeball.

Am i the only one that thinks Searcy has a bright future on this club?

Having said that, great job. I like how you think outside what every single mock says the bills will do. Keep up the good work.

Bills Juggernaut
01-29-2013, 08:45 AM
Matt Elam is too short. He's listed at 5'10 and that's stretching it. May hit like a mack truck, but I don't want him to cover TE's in the this league. Gronk would eat his lunch.

IlluminatusUIUC
01-29-2013, 09:09 AM
Y Geno is not that great I think EJ is better then him actually

Manuel is no sluch but Geno Smith is a great prospect who's getting knocked over the Kansas State game and because his defense collapsed and dragged down WVU's season. Strong arm, 67% passer, and most importantly he almost never turns the ball over. He has 7 fewer picks than Manuel and started an entire season more. Not to say that Manuel is bad, but I would want Smith much more.

malvado78
01-29-2013, 09:35 AM
Gronk would eat his lunch.

And drink his milk...

SABURZFAN
01-29-2013, 05:23 PM
ANOTHER useless mock draft that can't produce a players name for each round. :birds:

Cali512
01-31-2013, 03:09 AM
If we pass on the #1 qb in the draft to take a "Raw Project DE" (after shelling out over 100 million dollars at the position less than a year ago)

Then take a SS at the top of the second, while ignoring CB completly in your draft. I will jam a screwdriver in my eyeball.

Am i the only one that thinks Searcy has a bright future on this club?

Having said that, great job. I like how you think outside what every single mock says the bills will do. Keep up the good work.



If you read the post right above you, itd make sense. Ansah i believe will skyrocket and be the Aldon Smith/Pierre-Paul of the draft. Smart GMs and good teams draft great players if they see one they dont think will fail. Ansah is a freak, and i dont think you pass on him, he can be a gamechanging player. We need a SS wayyy more than CB. I dont know what your smokin, but weve drafted 2 first rd CBs, a 2nd, and a 4th, so anything above 3rd would be rediculous.

Mocks are never even close to the way drafts turn out. People go by need and not player in mocks. When the draft comes around teams are looking for the best player that fits one of there needs, not the best player for there biggest need. Unless the player is just that good. We need playmakers. We need stars. Last year the only playmaker was Byrd.

IlluminatusUIUC
01-31-2013, 09:54 AM
If you read the post right above you, itd make sense. Ansah i believe will skyrocket and be the Aldon Smith/Pierre-Paul of the draft. Smart GMs and good teams draft great players if they see one they dont think will fail. Ansah is a freak, and i dont think you pass on him, he can be a gamechanging player. We need a SS wayyy more than CB. I dont know what your smokin, but weve drafted 2 first rd CBs, a 2nd, and a 4th, so anything above 3rd would be rediculous.

I am extremely hesitant to draft a guy who was barely notable in college. FFS, he played three years against teams in the WAC and MWC and has 4.5 career sacks. 4.5!! This is a staggering workout warrior situation, and I want no part of it in the top 10.

Cali512
01-31-2013, 05:53 PM
I am extremely hesitant to draft a guy who was barely notable in college. FFS, he played three years against teams in the WAC and MWC and has 4.5 career sacks. 4.5!! This is a staggering workout warrior situation, and I want no part of it in the top 10.



Im starting to see where people are coming from, but i do think we should take advantage of the dominant pass rushers and MLBs in the first.

IlluminatusUIUC
01-31-2013, 07:35 PM
Im starting to see where people are coming from, but i do think we should take advantage of the dominant pass rushers and MLBs in the first.

Then keep walking, because this guy wasn't even remotely dominant against weak competition. People are talking about drafting him based on pure athletic potential, which is fine, but you draft those guys in the 5th not at #8.

4.5 sacks.
4.5.