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Weber got the instigator in his fight but wasn't kicked out. Since when does that happen? Did they let him stay because he lost the fight?
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You get an extra 2 for instigator...I've never heard of getting kicked out for 1 instigator penalty. -
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There was a rule i recall that if you got an instigator penalty you got a game misconduct. Maybe that rule changed.Originally posted by SabreEleven View PostComment
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That's the third man in rule I believe.I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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He got a 10 minute misconduct penalty added.Comment
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RIP Tommy D!
12/25/1978-9/9/2008
If you make something "Idiot-proof", they'll only make better idiots!Comment
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You get a 10 minute misconduct with a 2 minute instigator, not a GAME MISCONDUCT.
GAME MISCONDUCT = Bye Bye... You're Done.
MISCONDUCT = REF Wants your ass to sit in the penalty box for 15 minutes.Comment
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No 3rd man in is where you jump in on another fight. Instigator used to get kicked out as a deterrent to instigating fights. They might have changed it.Originally posted by Mski View PostComment
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Right like if you're trying to fight with Seguin and Thornton comes in and takes you out.Originally posted by mightysimi View PostI remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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46.11 Instigator - An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria: distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.
A player who is deemed to be the instigator of an altercation shall be assessed an instigating minor penalty, a major penalty for fighting and a ten-minute misconduct.I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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46.16 Third Man In - A game misconduct penalty, at the discretion of the Referee, shall be imposed on any player who is the first to intervene (third man in) in an altercation already in progress except when a match penalty is being imposed in the original altercation. This penalty is in addition to any other penalties incurred in the same incident.
This rule also applies to subsequent players who elect to intervene in the same or other altercations during the same stoppage of play.I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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He was not 3rd man in, he was instigator, he got extra 2, and extra 10Comment
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He was the instigator,
It was a perfect representation of the rule.
he skated from HIS D Zone, across 3 lines into HIS Offensive Zone, Ignoring the Play, and going straight after the Guy that Hammered his player.
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An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria:
distance traveled; - Check
gloves off first; -Check
first punch thrown; -Check
menacing attitude or posture; -Check
verbal instigation or threats; -Check
conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; -Check
obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season. -CheckComment
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That is what I thought as well. Now there seems to be something about "aggressor". I don't remember that being added, but I guess that is a good thing.Originally posted by don137 View PostComment
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Wow! Thanks SkateZilla for clearing that up for us!“You hold a players only meeting and get each guy to stand up and say what he can bring to the table... and if he doesn't, you punch him in the face.” ~~ Harry Neale, on how to fix the Sabres season.Comment
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