2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

[X-Era]

Hey guys. Many of us watch the cap. I figured I would start and sticky a thread on it. Feel free to post links, etc... and I'll update it as we go.

Please understand that we all will find conflicting info and that were only as good as the info we find.

Here's what I found for the start of the year:

http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2013/02/08/bills-cap-space-rank/

Removed Sportstrac's numbers. No idea if this includes the roll-over. But it's from the official site so let's start there until we get more clarification.

This gives the cap hits for every player (can't post the whole thing due to TOS):

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap-hit/

X's Projection of our current cap room

Date	Transaction	Player	Change	Rolling Cap Room	Comments
				16.7
2-11	Cut	Nick Barnett	+3.5	20.2
2-11	Cut	George Wilson	+2.9	23.1
2-14	Cut	Terrence McGee	+2.1	25.2
2-15	Re-sign	Travaris Jackson	-2.25	22.95
2-19	Re-sign	Colin Brown	-0.63	22.32
2-27	Retired	Chris Kelsay	+4.975	27.295
3-1	Cap Raised		+2	29.295
3-1	Franchise Tag	Jarius Byrd	-6.916	22.379
3-6	Tender	Dorin Dickerson	-0.5	21.879
3-7	Re-sign	Bryan Scott	-0.94	20.939
3-9	Re-sign	Leodis McKelvin	-3.05	17.889
3-12	Release	Ryan Fitzpatrick	+7.0	24.889
3-13	Sign	Manny Lawson	-3.0	21.889
4-02	Extend	Tashard Choice	-0.78	21.109
4-02	Sign	Alan Branch	-3.0	18.109
4-08	Sign	Kevin Kolb	-1.0	17.109	LTBE and NLTBE could make this up to 12 mill. 1 mill guaranteed
4-29	Trade	Jerry Hughes	-0.225	16.884	Shepp's hit was 0.64423. Hughes is .87
6-03	Cap gain	Ryan Fitzpatrick	+0.0	16.884	BB used June designation to split 10 mill hit over 2 years. 3 mill this year. Previously acct for.
6-05	Sign	Doug Legursky	-0.8	16.084	2 years 2 mill
6-10	Release	Tarvaris Jackson	+1.7	17.084	Would have been 2.25 hit. Release gains 1.7 back. Goes to .55 hit.
6-14	Sign	All rookies	-4.4	12.684	Manuel- 1.615 Woods- 0.934 Alonso- 0.781 Goodwin- 0.554 Williams- 0.522 Others not reported yet

Cap Room based on Sportstrac's numbers including dead money

Per Team Max Salary Cap	123,000,000
Current Total Cap Salary	106,347,907
Dead Money	10,062,118
Total Cap Room	16,702,975

[Night Train]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

Thanks man. It's been hard to get an idea how much we're roughly under the cap.

Looks like we can do a little shopping in Free Agency. Cutting Kelsay could get us another good player or provide room for the rookie contracts.

[YardRat]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

I think your 'rolling cap room' is incorrect, the rollover is already taken into account on the bottom line to come to the ~20mil under figure.

From the second link...

105,027,804 cap figure + 5,366,702 dead money = 110,394,506...minus the rollover of 9.8 = 100,594,506 (their bottom line), which would put us approx 21,405,494 under including the rollover.

[X-Era]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

I think your 'rolling cap room' is incorrect, the rollover is already taken into account on the bottom line to come to the ~20mil under figure.

From the second link...

105,027,804 cap figure + 5,366,702 dead money = 110,394,506...minus the rollover of 9.8 = 100,594,506 (their bottom line), which would put us approx 21,405,494 under including the rollover.

Not really sure what they are doing there. They have dead money on McKelvin who is a UFA...

I do see what you're saying though. The 21 they have includes everything to date... Let me look a bit further into it.

ESPN had us starting at 20.6 including the roll-over:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8822266/nfl-mailbag-carryover-rules-impact-cap-strategy

[YardRat]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

Thanks man. It's been hard to get an idea how much we're roughly under the cap.

Looks like we can do a little shopping in Free Agency. Cutting Kelsay could get us another good player or provide room for the rookie contracts.

Less ~5.5mil for rookies leaves us with 16mil, and you've got to assume they are going to bank 4 or 5mil (at least) for in-season pick-ups and extensions. That only leaves 11-12mil for Byrd, Levitre and others. Let's assume Illuminati's contract suggestions come to pass (3, 072,000 and 6mil for Levitre and Byrd, respectively), a 9,072,000 total cap hit...that leaves roughly 2-3mil to sign our own (Nelson, Moore, Johnson, etc etc) and or go shopping.

Without more massive cuts, I don't see us being much of player re-signing our own, let alone bringing in anybody worthwhile that's new.

[X-Era]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

BB.com referenced NFL.com's number which had the Bills at 16.7 to start.

http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2013/02/08/bills-cap-space-rank/

I think I'll just start with that figure. No clue if it includes the roll-over...

[X-Era]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

Less ~5.5mil for rookies leaves us with 16mil, and you've got to assume they are going to bank 4 or 5mil (at least) for in-season pick-ups and extensions. That only leaves 11-12mil for Byrd, Levitre and others. Let's assume Illuminati's contract suggestions come to pass (3, 072,000 and 6mil for Levitre and Byrd, respectively), a 9,072,000 total cap hit...that leaves roughly 2-3mil to sign our own (Nelson, Moore, Johnson, etc etc) and or go shopping.

Without more massive cuts, I don't see us being much of player re-signing our own, let alone bringing in anybody worthwhile that's new.

Nix said we will be going after some players.

“We’re in pretty good shape and we’ve got cap space even though I read sometimes that we’re in trouble,” said Nix. “We’re going to be a player probably in free agency at some point. It may not be the first day or two, but we’ll be looking for guys that can come in and help us and take some pressure off the draft. We think we can be active and go places.”

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/Nix-Franchise-tag-an-option-for-Byrd-Levitre/0e6a41f4-c098-4972-af19-1f3fbddae7a5

[YardRat]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

Nix said we will be going after some players.

“We’re in pretty good shape and we’ve got cap space even though I read sometimes that we’re in trouble,” said Nix. “We’re going to be a player probably in free agency at some point. It may not be the first day or two, but we’ll be looking for guys that can come in and help us and take some pressure off the draft. We think we can be active and go places.”

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/art...9-1f3fbddae7a5

Yeah, I saw that in the other thread...they better get busy whacking some more dead wood if they plan on on signing anybody worth a damn.

[X-Era]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

Using the 16.7 and updating the OP I end up about at the 21-22 range like Sportstrac has.

Hey, no one said it was clear or easy... LOL

If someone can explain why ESPN with the roll-over (9.8) is at 20.6 and NFL.com is at 16.7 I'd love to hear it.

[X-Era]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

To Yardies point, Buff News projects not a lot of room to sign FA's:

http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130213/SPORTS/130219671/1082

They had us at 20.9 in room after the Barnett and Wilson moves which means BB.com, Buff News, Sportstrac, and my new numbers are all pretty close to within a few mill. It's ESPN that has the number that's very different (they have us at 4-5 mill more in room).

[clumping platelets]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

McKelvin was a first rd pick.....he likely had a voidable year which caused an acceraleration of his signing bonus proration into 2013

Bills must also keep $2.25 million available for Jackson's contract due to NLTBE's incentives that are now treated as LTBE's. Bills gain cap relief if Jackson doesn't play

[X-Era]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

Updated with Kelsay's retirement.

[X-Era]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

A newer development:

The cap could actually be north of 123 mill...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/26/cap-could-now-be-above-123-million/

The initial projection was 121 or so.

[X-Era]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

From Jay Skurski of the Buff News:

"Jay Skurski @JaySkurski The #Bills are in a much more favorable salary cap situation with the retirement of Kelsay. They are currently $28.425 million under the cap"

https://twitter.com/JaySkurski/status/306932753113436160

[clumping platelets]

Re: 2013 Bills Salary Cap Thread

I do not know why they were saying on WGR yesterday morning that the Bills had a difficult cap situation. I wouldn't touch Mario's contract but they could re-work Fitz's and Kyle Williams deals to free up some additional cap space.

They could also release Brad Smith, Troup