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  • mjt328
    Registered User
    • May 2011
    • 636

    We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

    Ryan Fitzpatrick
    Donald Jones
    Andy Levitre
    Chris Kelsay
    Nick Barnett
    George Wilson

    Plus a whole new coaching staff.

    Not to say all these losses were bad moves... But they were apparently our best options last year.
    Anyone who thinks we aren't in a full-blown start over is simply in denial.
    2013 "My Should Have" Draft
    Posted During the 2013 Draft
    1 - (16): Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
    2 - (41): Robert Woods, WR, USC
    2 - (46): Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State
    3 - (78): Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
    4 - (105): Barrett Jones, OG, Alabama
    5 - (143): Brandon Jenkins, LB, Florida State
    6 - (177): Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
    7 - (222): Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee

    2013 Buddy Nix Draft
    1 - (16): E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
    2 - (41): Robert Woods, WR, USC
    2 - (46): Kiko Alonso, LB, Oregon
    3 - (78): Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
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    5 - (143): Jonathan Meeks, SS, Clemson
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  • ServoBillieves
    The Voice of Reason
    • Jul 2007
    • 6106

    #2
    Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

    Nelson would've been a starter.
    Bye Bye Brady...

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    • streetkings01
      Registered User
      • Jul 2006
      • 2980

      #3
      Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

      6 starters from a team that finished 4-12, 6-10 & 6-10 the last 3 seasons.
      You can call me streetkings

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      • streetkings01
        Registered User
        • Jul 2006
        • 2980

        #4
        Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

        Levitre is the only one on that list that I'd consider a loss.........the rest were average to below average.
        You can call me streetkings

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        • X-Era
          What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
          • Feb 2005
          • 27670

          #5
          Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

          Originally posted by mjt328 View Post
          Ryan Fitzpatrick
          Donald Jones
          Andy Levitre
          Chris Kelsay
          Nick Barnett
          George Wilson

          Plus a whole new coaching staff.

          Not to say all these losses were bad moves... But they were apparently our best options last year.
          Anyone who thinks we aren't in a full-blown start over is simply in denial.
          Jones- Part time starter due to injury and really only started this year
          Levitre- A legit loss
          Kelsay- Part time starter pushed into starting due to Andersons injury
          Barnett- Sub-par starter
          Wilson- legit loss but also only average at best as a SS

          If we had lost 6 solid starters or if the moves were necessary because we were in a cap mess I would agree. In this situation I agree with all the cuts and letting Levitre go

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          • streetkings01
            Registered User
            • Jul 2006
            • 2980

            #6
            Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

            Let me add........the firing of the coaching staff that went 16-32 the past 3 seasons should be considered addition by subtraction!
            You can call me streetkings

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            • SeatownBillsFan21
              Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 2149

              #7
              Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

              And only one will be a starter in the league next season.

              I think this will be our year to totally bottom out and get the 1st pick next year.

              I have zero expectations for the 2013 season

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              • streetkings01
                Registered User
                • Jul 2006
                • 2980

                #8
                Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

                The Dolphins have lost alot more over the past 2 seasons then we have. A starting WR(Brandon), LT(Long), RB(Bush), TE(Fasano), CB's(Davis & Smith). That's 2 1st rd picks that are gone.
                You can call me streetkings

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                • Night Train
                  Retired - On Several Levels
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 33117

                  #9
                  Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

                  Originally posted by mjt328 View Post
                  Ryan Fitzpatrick
                  Donald Jones
                  Andy Levitre
                  Chris Kelsay
                  Nick Barnett
                  George Wilson

                  Plus a whole new coaching staff.

                  Not to say all these losses were bad moves... But they were apparently our best options last year.
                  Anyone who thinks we aren't in a full-blown start over is simply in denial.
                  I agree.

                  Yet I want the rebuild to be done RIGHT, giving the new coach a chance to build something and fall on his own sword.

                  No more Brandon selling the public false hope. Get the f*** out of the way and let Whaley and Marrone swim or sink without the smoke and mirrors act which hasn't worked for 13 years.
                  Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                  • NOT THE DUDE...
                    Hall of Fame Zoner
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 8826

                    #10
                    Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

                    Originally posted by mjt328 View Post
                    Ryan Fitzpatrick
                    Donald Jones
                    Andy Levitre
                    Chris Kelsay
                    Nick Barnett
                    George Wilson


                    Plus a whole new coaching staff.

                    Not to say all these losses were bad moves... But they were apparently our best options last year.
                    Anyone who thinks we aren't in a full-blown start over is simply in denial.


                    geno smith
                    draft pick plus fa wr
                    rinehart or donald thomas i guess
                    adding a te
                    nigel bradham
                    searcy

                    honestly man, we needed to get rid of that dead weight. bottom line, we need a top qb

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                    • Gibby
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 18211

                      #11
                      Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

                      Originally posted by mjt328 View Post
                      Ryan Fitzpatrick
                      Donald Jones
                      Andy Levitre
                      Chris Kelsay
                      Nick Barnett
                      George Wilson

                      Plus a whole new coaching staff.

                      Not to say all these losses were bad moves... But they were apparently our best options last year.
                      Anyone who thinks we aren't in a full-blown start over is simply in denial.
                      and the only one of those choices is not resigning Levitre. The rest were not really worth keeping.

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                      • JoeMama
                        Emotion Sickness
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 18196

                        #12
                        Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

                        Originally posted by mjt328 View Post
                        Ryan Fitzpatrick
                        Donald Jones
                        Andy Levitre
                        Chris Kelsay
                        Nick Barnett
                        George Wilson

                        Plus a whole new coaching staff.

                        Not to say all these losses were bad moves... But they were apparently our best options last year.
                        Anyone who thinks we aren't in a full-blown start over is simply in denial.
                        What a disaster.

                        Three years ago Buddy Nix was handed the reigns and asked to build a team.

                        Nix said he had a plan, a vision, and the football acumen to create something special.

                        But here we are three years later. Somehow, the team Nix built is EVEN WORSE than the team he inherited.

                        Let that sink in for a moment.

                        We're WORSE NOW than we were three years ago.

                        Which means Nix is blowing up HIS OWN body of work so we can start from scratch yet again.

                        And there are seriously fans on board with this idea?

                        Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.

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                        • mjt328
                          Registered User
                          • May 2011
                          • 636

                          #13
                          Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

                          Originally posted by streetkings01 View Post
                          Levitre is the only one on that list that I'd consider a loss.........the rest were average to below average.
                          But they were the best we had on our 2012 roster. At this moment, our replacements for those guys are:

                          Tavaris Jackson
                          TJ Graham
                          Keith Williams (Yeah, I had to look that one up)
                          Mark Anderson
                          Bryan Scott or Chris White
                          Da'Norris Searcy
                          2013 "My Should Have" Draft
                          Posted During the 2013 Draft
                          1 - (16): Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
                          2 - (41): Robert Woods, WR, USC
                          2 - (46): Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State
                          3 - (78): Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
                          4 - (105): Barrett Jones, OG, Alabama
                          5 - (143): Brandon Jenkins, LB, Florida State
                          6 - (177): Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
                          7 - (222): Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee

                          2013 Buddy Nix Draft
                          1 - (16): E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
                          2 - (41): Robert Woods, WR, USC
                          2 - (46): Kiko Alonso, LB, Oregon
                          3 - (78): Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
                          4 - (105): Duke Williams, FS, Nevada
                          5 - (143): Jonathan Meeks, SS, Clemson
                          6 - (177): Dustin Hopkins, K, Florida State
                          7 - (222): Chris Gragg, TE, Arkansas

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                          • better days
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 22028

                            #14
                            Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

                            Originally posted by streetkings01 View Post
                            6 starters from a team that finished 4-12, 6-10 & 6-10 the last 3 seasons.
                            Exactly it's not like the Bills are the Ravens & lost MANY GOOD players. The Bills lost ONE good player.

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                            • OpIv37
                              Acid Douching Asswipe
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 101326

                              #15
                              Re: We've lost 6 starters so far this offseason...

                              Originally posted by better days View Post
                              Exactly it's not like the Bills are the Ravens & lost MANY GOOD players. The Bills lost ONE good player.
                              Here's what you are failing to see: even though most of the guys we lost weren't that good, we currently have no one equal or better.

                              Let that sink in for a second.

                              As bad as most of those guys were, we are STILL worse without them than we are with them.

                              The Bills have actually done a decent job unloading bad contracts and getting rid of washed up players. Where they consistently fail is finding someone better or even equal to replace them.

                              They took a team that was only 6-10 to start with and broke it down to bare bones.
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