Now that Fitz has been cut..

[Bone]

It's a lock we are drafting a QB with the 8th pick. Do you guys agree or disagree? You got to think Geno if he is available or Tyler Wilson. Wilson would remind me of the Tannenhill pick last year but I highly doubt Tavaris Jackson is our starter.

[mightysimi]

What worries me about Wilson is that he is not in Mayock's top 5. Anyone know why? Not that I think Mayock knows everything, but he is better than most.

[The Jokeman]

Geno Yay! Wilson Nay! I'm not sold on Wilson and would welcome a trade down if Geno is gone as think Wilson could be had in the teens to early 20s of the draft. Yet I still like EJ Manuel in Round 2.

[Bone]

I have a feeling its Wilson at 8 even if Geno is there.

[psubills62]

I wouldn't say it's a lock. I would agree that it's a lot more likely we'll draft a QB at some point, now.

[Bone]

Geno reminds me of Akili Smith.

[EDS]

Bills have to draft someone as they can't possibly go into next season with just Tavaris Jackson. I can live with Geno in round one but no other QB warrants a first round pick. Sucks that the Bills are in this position.

[YardRat]

I certainly hope not, but the tea leaves are certainly pointing in that direction. My only hope, although I admit it's unlikely, is that another team behind us that is desperate for a QB falls for the 'it's so obvious Buffalo wants a QB' that they are willing to get ass-raped in a trade up with us and give up some extra picks.

[Saratoga Slim]

Geno reminds me of Akili Smith.


Or Aaron brooks

[Don't Panic]

Geno reminds me of Akili Smith.

interesting comparison... can't say it's completely off base. I think he has a better head for the position than Akili did though. No one is trading up for Geno so if he's there I say he's the pick. If he's not and we stand pat, it is going to be glaringly obvious that we are taking a QB in the 2nd.

[The Jokeman]

Geno reminds me of Akili Smith.

Why, because they both have the last name Smith and are African American? Akili had one "great" year in the NCAA by comparison Geno had three.

http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=3558

vs

http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=1207396

[better days]

I certainly hope not, but the tea leaves are certainly pointing in that direction. My only hope, although I admit it's unlikely, is that another team behind us that is desperate for a QB falls for the 'it's so obvious Buffalo wants a QB' that they are willing to get ass-raped in a trade up with us and give up some extra picks.

I would love to trade back a little if possible then get a QB & have an additional pick. God knows we have enough holes to fill, we could use an extra pick or two.

[kingJofNYC]

It's a lock that they're going QB, it's also a lock that they're going to be bad the next two years, because they have nothing to really build around, maybe CJ. They don't have a D, not much of an offense.

If they're going to get desperate and reach for a QB they'll solve none of their problems, see the Cleveland Browns last year. This teams won't be good next year, take the BPA at 8, draft a development QB in the third and tank the season. This team needs a 2-14 season, this may be the year to do it too because the top of next years class is absolutely loaded.

Just acquire talent is my preference, regardless of position, mail this season in and go big next year. No point in setting this franchise back further, if that's even possible, with a QB that needs a lot of work.

I think it's a lock that Tavaris is starting Week 1 because a lot of these QBs need work.

[better days]

Why, because they both have the last name Smith and are African American? Akili had one "great" year in the NCAA by comparison Geno had three.

http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=3558

vs

http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=1207396

Well, Geno couldn't even beat Nassib & the Cuse.

[Bone]

interesting comparison... can't say it's completely off base. I think he has a better head for the position than Akili did though. No one is trading up for Geno so if he's there I say he's the pick. If he's not and we stand pat, it is going to be glaringly obvious that we are taking a QB in the 2nd. AKA we trade to the top of the 2nd to guarantee we get the QB we want...with only 6 picks in this draft. Personally its to big of a risk to wait till the 2nd round or to even try and trade back in to the first. QB is the pick at 8

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Or Aaron brooks

Name one way Geno Smith is like Akili Smith or Aaron Brooks.

[Don't Panic]

QB is the pick at 8

Im not so sure. If Geno is gone, I don't see it happening.

[kingJofNYC]

Name one way Geno Smith is like Akili Smith or Aaron Brooks.

He's black.

[venis2k1]

Geno reminds me of Jay Cutler.

[justasportsfan]

would not say a qb is a lock at 8. We could still go wr or olb depending on what we can sift through other teams' garbage.

[The Jokeman]

Well, Geno couldn't even beat Nassib & the Cuse.

and who did Wilson ever beat?

[The Jokeman]

Geno reminds me of Jay Cutler.

All the reports I read say that Geno is a film rat and a pretty good teammate. The guy who reminds me Cutler is Tyler Bray in his got all the physical skills in the world but just doesn't put it together on game day.

[cookie G]

Name one way Geno Smith is like Akili Smith or Aaron Brooks.

I wonder if black QB's say things like.."that Ryan Mallet reminds me of Jeff Garcia".

Or "that Trent Edwards reminds me of Brett Favre"

[IlluminatusUIUC]

He's black.

Nailed it.


And to me Geno reminds me of Sam Bradford lite.

[cookie G]

If anyone is wondering what Geno is like

A good article or two on him.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...olely-football

http://timeswv.com/bob_herzel/x62494...otball-scholar

[The Jokeman]

Name one way Geno Smith is like Akili Smith or Aaron Brooks.

NFL.com compares Geno to Aaron. I guess I understand it in that Brooks put up good numbers in New Orleans but never won much of anything. One could argue that Geno's been that way in college yet it does appear he is more dedicated and of a leader that Brooks ever was in the big easy.

[kingJofNYC]

Nailed it.


And to me Geno reminds me of Sam Bradford lite.

You know, that's not a bad comparison to be honest. Very similar players, I think Geno's got better pocket presence but he has ****ty footwork because he never really has to take a drop, neither did Sam to be honest.

Think Geno forces it more at times, slow to get off his first read and will just throw it up at times. K-State game was a good example, held on to it too long and never really went through his progressions.

[Cleve]

Good old bumbling Buddy Nix should have made getting a franchise QB for the Bills his highest priority for the last several years, not waiting until Blitzpatrick was gone to start the search. Big "expert" GM that he is, he foolishly bought, hook, line and sinker, into Gailey's imbecilic theory that Fitzpatrick was the "QB of the Future"

Are there any Colin Kapernicks, or Russell Wilsons, or RG3s or Andrew Lucks around for the choosing this season?

Got a bad feeling with Nix at the helm that we'll end up with another stinker that WON'T be anywhere near as good as the aforementioned QBs. Who is he going to get that's as good as any or them?

[better days]

and who did Wilson ever beat?

Yeah, lets just forget that his idiot HC was fired just before the start of last season & that entire team was in turmoil.

In 2011, Wilson beat 11 teams he faced out of 13 he played while playing in the SEC, the toughest conference in College football.

[The Jokeman]

Yeah, lets just forget that his idiot HC was fired just before the start of last season & that entire team was in turmoil.

In 2011, Wilson beat 11 teams he faced out of 13 he played while playing in the SEC, the toughest conference in College football.

Excuses, excuses but he still grades out to be a worse QB than Geno so if I have my choice of the two it's the better prospect.

[better days]

Excuses, excuses but he still grades out to be a worse QB than Geno so if I have my choice of the two it's the better prospect.

Well, I guess we will have to see how Buddy has them rated if both are still available when the Bills draft.

[TacklingDummy]

Barkley in the 1st or the Cuse QB in the 2nd. That's what it is going to be.

[Cleve]

I would not be thrilled to see the SU QB end up on the roster. I just hate to see the Bills put all their eggs in the Syracuse basket - they're a decent team, but they're no Alabama Crimson Tide - Nix could have, with some luck, got us some decent QBs in the last few seasons, but I assume he'll end up with bottom of the barrel and some homespun "Awww shucks!!!" in response when his selection fails to pan out.

[psubills62]

I would not be thrilled to see the SU QB end up on the roster. I just hate to see the Bills put all their eggs in the Syracuse basket - they're a decent team, but they're no Alabama Crimson Tide - Nix could have, with some luck, got us some decent QBs in the last few seasons, but I assume he'll end up with bottom of the barrel and some homespun "Awww shucks!!!" in response when his selection fails to pan out.
If he's the only 'Cuse guy they take and it's in an appropriate round (right now 2nd seems appropriate), I'd be OK with it. Not thrilled, but wouldn't be pissed.

[Cleve]

Wow, I never realized how epically bad Blitzpatrick was;

Culled from the Football Database, here is ranking, based on win/loss percentage, of all current active QBs that have started at least 2 full seasons (32 games or more) - Ryan Fitzpatrick is 2nd worst in the league - 37th out of 38. Even horrible QBs like Jon Kitna, Byron Leftwich, Carson Palmer.... EVEN TRENT EDWARDS FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD..... are better than Fitzputrid in this statistical regard... Unbelievable that Gailey wasted 3 seasons on such dead wood! Only in Buffalo could such a player be "anointed" as the Starting Quarterback to the amazement and dismay of virtually everyone else!


<tbody>
Player
Gms
W
L
T
Pct


Tom Brady (http://www.footballdb.com/players/tom-brady-bradyto01)
199
153
46
0
0.769


Ben Roethlisberger (http://www.footballdb.com/players/ben-roethlisberger-roethbe01)
140
97
43
0
0.693


Matt Ryan (http://www.footballdb.com/players/matt-ryan-ryanma01)
83
57
26
0
0.687


Joe Flacco (http://www.footballdb.com/players/joe-flacco-flaccjo01)
93
63
30
0
0.677


Aaron Rodgers (http://www.footballdb.com/players/aaron-rodgers-rodgeaa01)
85
57
28
0
0.671


Peyton Manning (http://www.footballdb.com/players/peyton-manning-mannipe01)
244
163
81
0
0.668


Philip Rivers (http://www.footballdb.com/players/philip-rivers-riverph01)
119
73
46
0
0.613


Vince Young (http://www.footballdb.com/players/vince-young-youngvi01)
51
31
20
0
0.608


Eli Manning (http://www.footballdb.com/players/eli-manning-manniel01)
146
86
60
0
0.589


Drew Brees (http://www.footballdb.com/players/drew-brees-breesdr01)
179
105
74
0
0.587


Tony Romo (http://www.footballdb.com/players/tony-romo-romoto01)
97
56
41
0
0.577


Michael Vick (http://www.footballdb.com/players/michael-vick-vickmi01)
106
58
47
1
0.552


Jay Cutler (http://www.footballdb.com/players/jay-cutler-cutleja01)
95
52
43
0
0.547


Andy Dalton (http://www.footballdb.com/players/andy-dalton-daltoan02)
33
18
15
0
0.545


Mark Sanchez (http://www.footballdb.com/players/mark-sanchez-sanchma01)
68
37
31
0
0.544


Rex Grossman (http://www.footballdb.com/players/rex-grossman-grossre01)
50
27
23
0
0.54


Matt Schaub (http://www.footballdb.com/players/matt-schaub-schauma01)
84
45
39
0
0.536


Matt Hasselbeck (http://www.footballdb.com/players/matt-hasselbeck-hassema01)
163
85
78
0
0.521


David Garrard (http://www.footballdb.com/players/david-garrard-garrada01)
78
40
38
0
0.513


Kyle Orton (http://www.footballdb.com/players/kyle-orton-ortonky01)
69
35
34
0
0.507


Alex Smith (http://www.footballdb.com/players/alex-smith-smithal04)
78
39
38
1
0.506


Tarvaris Jackson (http://www.footballdb.com/players/tarvaris-jackson-jacksta01)
35
17
18
0
0.486


Byron Leftwich (http://www.footballdb.com/players/byron-leftwich-leftwby01)
51
24
27
0
0.471


Matt Cassel (http://www.footballdb.com/players/matt-cassel-cassema01)
63
29
34
0
0.46


Charlie Batch (http://www.footballdb.com/players/charlie-batch-batchch01)
55
25
30
0
0.455


Carson Palmer (http://www.footballdb.com/players/carson-palmer-palmeca01)
123
54
69
0
0.439


Jason Campbell (http://www.footballdb.com/players/jason-campbell-campbja02)
71
31
40
0
0.437


Josh Freeman (http://www.footballdb.com/players/josh-freeman-freemjo01)
56
24
32
0
0.429


Trent Edwards (http://www.footballdb.com/players/trent-edwards-edwartr02)
33
14
19
0
0.424


Derek Anderson (http://www.footballdb.com/players/derek-anderson-anderde01)
43
18
25
0
0.419


Cam Newton (http://www.footballdb.com/players/cam-newton-newtoca02)
32
13
19
0
0.406


Jon Kitna (http://www.footballdb.com/players/jon-kitna-kitnajo01)
125
50
75
0
0.4


Josh McCown (http://www.footballdb.com/players/josh-mccown-mccowjo01)
33
13
20
0
0.394


Chad Henne (http://www.footballdb.com/players/chad-henne-hennech01)
37
14
23
0
0.378


Matthew Stafford (http://www.footballdb.com/players/matthew-stafford-staffma01)
46
17
29
0
0.37


Sam Bradford (http://www.footballdb.com/players/sam-bradford-bradfsa01)
42
15
26
1
0.369


Ryan Fitzpatrick (http://www.footballdb.com/players/ryan-fitzpatrick-fitzpry01)
68
24
43
1
0.36


David Carr (http://www.footballdb.com/players/david-carr-carrda01)
79
23
56
0
0.291

</tbody>

[IlluminatusUIUC]

NFL.com compares Geno to Aaron. I guess I understand it in that Brooks put up good numbers in New Orleans but never won much of anything. One could argue that Geno's been that way in college yet it does appear he is more dedicated and of a leader that Brooks ever was in the big easy.

I assumed they were referring to them as prospects, not comparing Brooks' pro career to Smith's college career. And Smith's college career utterly blows Brooks out of the water. Smith threw more TDs as a senior than Brooks threw as a collegian at all, and finished a full 12 points higher in completion %

[don137]

I just don't see Smith getting past the Cardinals. I think this will be another year where the player that would fit the Bills perfectly goes right before the Bills pick just like Peppers and Bills take Mike Williams (late season win against Panthers year prior affected draft slot), Big Ben goes 2 picks before Bills and Bills end up with Evans, Patrick Willis goes the pick before Bills who take Lynch.

[Don't Panic]

I just don't see Smith getting past the Cardinals. I think this will be another year where the player that would fit the Bills perfectly goes right before the Bills pick just like Peppers and Bills take Mike Williams (late season win against Panthers year prior affected draft slot), Big Ben goes 2 picks before Bills and Bills end up with Evans, Patrick Willis goes the pick before Bills who take Lynch.

If that's the case then we need to show the discipline to go BPA at one of our many need areas and wait until the second. I'd be willing to take either Barkley, Wilson, Nassib, Jones or Manuel if Marrone thinks they have a chance at developing into a legitimate starter down the road. If not, then you really gamble and wait until the third and hope there's a guy left who can compete right away for a starting spot. Not an impossible situation but definitely far from desirable.

[kishoph]

Geno reminds me of Akili Smith.

I don't know about the comparison, but I remember a interview with Nix, where he sounded really turned off on Geno Smith. Myself I don't think Smith is the best QB in this draft.



Name one way Geno Smith is like Akili Smith or Aaron Brooks.

I remember reading that someone had said that he was told by a NFL scout this, here's a link that mentions it.
http://stripehype.com/2013/02/26/compares-geno-smith-to-former-bengals-bust-akili-smith/

[better days]

I wonder if black QB's say things like.."that Ryan Mallet reminds me of Jeff Garcia".

Or "that Trent Edwards reminds me of Brett Favre"

To compare Ryan Mallet to Jeff Garcia & Trent Edwards to Brett Favre? Sounds like you are calling black QB's STUPID.