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  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86291

    Four Sites For Potential Stadium

    Four new sites are being discussed by local leaders as potential replacements for Orchard Park as the home of the Buffalo Bills according to a report from local television station WGRZ.


    Lackawanna

    The former Bethlehem Steel plant along the lakeshore in Lackawanna has been largely dormant since the plant closed in 1982. Small projects have utilized portions of the site but the plant's footprint is still largely available. There is one caveat; industrial waste has contaminated the site, with the Environmental Protection Agency saying it "poses a significant potential threat to human health and the environment." (Irony: so do the Bills.) If New York State - with help from the federal government - wanted to cross two problems off their list, paying to restore the site along with a new stadium would make some sense. Former Erie County Executive Bruce Fisher thinks the site is too far away from the current economic redevelopment projects in the works near downtown Buffalo.

    Outer Harbor


    The most discussed potential site, investors have been trumpeting a private convention center and stadium hybrid for months now. Like the Lackawanna site, it would capitalize on cheap land available on the waterfront. This plan is the furthest along of any of the other sites besides the current Orchard Park land.

    Downtown Buffalo


    The most attractive for Erie County and New York State economic development money, the stadium could be plunked down in the middle of the City of Buffalo. Restricted tailgating and difficulty parking would be major concerns but increased access to public transportation, ability to tap into existing utilities and sewer lines, and the development of the surrounding areas could outweigh those negatives in the minds of legislators. WGRZ's report suggests directly on the waterfront where failed redevelopment into a Bass Pro Shop and more have come and gone or a space near the old Larkin Building.

    Niagara Falls


    Called "the wild card" in WGRZ's report, this is the most problematic spot for local Buffalo lawmakers. Instead of Erie County, the new stadium and all the sales tax revenue would fall in Niagara County. Niagara would also be responsible for infrastructure upgrades and more. This is a plan that would need to come from the state as a way to enhance Upstate New York's largest tourist attraction and would likely prove a hard sell for Erie County legislators. It would decrease the travel time for Canadian fans and increase the driving distance from Rochester.
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  • OpIv37
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    • Sep 2002
    • 101312

    #2
    Re: Four Sites For Potential Stadium

    "Cheap land available on the waterfront."

    That's a phrase that only makes sense in Buffalo, NY. Waterfront property is MORE expensive everywhere else in the world.
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    • YardRat
      Well, lookie here...
      • Dec 2004
      • 86291

      #3
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      Yeah, I don't know how accurate that statement is, although apparently one of the factors that may drive the price down is the cost of clean up before anything can be done with it.
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      • MitchMurrayDowntown
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        • Oct 2011
        • 22284

        #4
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        They need to clean the downtown out first.

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        • EricStratton
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          • Jul 2002
          • 20893

          #5
          Re: Four Sites For Potential Stadium

          Originally posted by YardRat View Post
          Yeah, I don't know how accurate that statement is, although apparently one of the factors that may drive the price down is the cost of clean up before anything can be done with it.
          You hit the nail on the head Yard. The contamination at the waterfront makes certain types of usage almost impossible

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          • YardRat
            Well, lookie here...
            • Dec 2004
            • 86291

            #6
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            I stated three years ago that the Falls could be in play, depending on the new ownership group.
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            • Night Train
              Retired - On Several Levels
              • Jul 2005
              • 33117

              #7
              Re: Four Sites For Potential Stadium

              Why don't they just build it across from the Ralph ?? Retractable roof is a must.

              The traffic patterns and available parking is something our downtown cannot handle. It would take tons of $$ to make that happen.
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              • DetDannyWilliams
                Nobody in Hawaii wears a tie.
                • Feb 2013
                • 4186

                #8
                Re: Four Sites For Potential Stadium

                East Buffalo cheap land- by the Central Terminal

                almost all of those houses down on the East Side are vacant, they have condemned signs on them or have spray painted X's on them. The City of Buffalo rips down houses that haven't or can't be lived in to help control the pests and rodents.

                so here's what they should do...they should build the stadium and while they are doing that they are knocking down the houses that the City of Buffalo is supposed to rip down anyways it's like killing two birds with one stone.

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                • Night Train
                  Retired - On Several Levels
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 33117

                  #9
                  Re: Four Sites For Potential Stadium

                  Originally posted by DetDannyWilliams View Post
                  East Buffalo cheap land- by the Central Terminal

                  almost all of those houses down on the East Side are vacant, they have condemned signs on them or have spray painted X's on them. The City of Buffalo rips down houses that haven't or can't be lived in to help control the pests and rodents.

                  so here's what they should do...they should build the stadium and while they are doing that they are knocking down the houses that the City of Buffalo is supposed to rip down anyways it's like killing two birds with one stone.

                  http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl
                  I'd never drive down there. It's a 50 % shot your car would be broken into or vadalized during the game.
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                  • MitchMurrayDowntown
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                    • Oct 2011
                    • 22284

                    #10
                    Re: Four Sites For Potential Stadium

                    Originally posted by Night Train View Post
                    I'd never drive down there. It's a 50 % shot your car would be broken into or vadalized during the game.
                    If your car is worth more than $8,000, it's a 100% chance.

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                    • coastal
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 15514

                      #11
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                      Originally posted by EricStratton View Post
                      You hit the nail on the head Yard. The contamination at the waterfront makes certain types of usage almost impossible
                      That is so sad when you consider the tremendous natural resource that is embodied by Lake Erie and the properties that surround it.

                      I often think about the time prior to white man cometh... and what it all must have looked like.

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                      • Don't Panic
                        All-Pro Zoner
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 4227

                        #12
                        Re: Four Sites For Potential Stadium

                        Gotta be Outer Harbor. It just makes too much sense (which of course will probably eliminate it from serious consideration). That would be phenomenal to go to games on the lake and a few hundred yards from the epicenter of the city. Needs to happen.

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                        • BertSquirtgum
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                          • May 2009
                          • 13379

                          #13
                          Re: Four Sites For Potential Stadium

                          Originally posted by Night Train View Post
                          Why don't they just build it across from the Ralph ?? Retractable roof is a must.

                          The traffic patterns and available parking is something our downtown cannot handle. It would take tons of $$ to make that happen.
                          This is the most logical to me.

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                          • MitchMurrayDowntown
                            Skoobasaurus-Rex
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 22284

                            #14
                            Re: Four Sites For Potential Stadium

                            Orchard Park is not regionalizing the team, which is the intent of moving it to the most accessible area to the most people. Niagara Falls is the most logical place with the Rainbow Bridge there & so many hotel rooms / natural beauty & easy access from the east, I'll can almost assure you that it will end up there.

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                            • better days
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 22028

                              #15
                              Re: Four Sites For Potential Stadium

                              Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                              Orchard Park is not regionalizing the team, which is the intent of moving it to the most accessible area to the most people. Niagara Falls is the most logical place with the Rainbow Bridge there & so many hotel rooms / natural beauty & easy access from the east, I'll can almost assure you that it will end up there.
                              Well, I think midpoint between Buffalo & Rochester is the most logical place. CHEAP land there as well in the middle of nowhere, yet accessable from everywhere. Now that would be the best site for regionalizing the team.

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