Bills QB Rumor

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LINK (http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/12485/20130326/oakland-raiders-trade-rumors-carson-palmer-deal-arizona-cardinals-buffalo.htm?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Conjecture. meh.


The Oakland Raiders are in a tough (http://www.billszone.com/articles/12454/20130325/oakland-raiders-trade-rumors-darren-mcfadden-miami-dolphins-deal-option.htm) financial situation with the salary cap heading into 2013 and the team was planning on getting relief from quarterback Carson Palmer, but so far the two sides have not been able to come to a deal (http://www.billszone.com/articles/12454/20130325/oakland-raiders-trade-rumors-darren-mcfadden-miami-dolphins-deal-option.htm).
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According to ESPN.com (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9097372/carson-palmer-oakland-raiders-unlikely-restructure-source), sources said that Palmer may not work out his deal with the team to restructure for cap space, meaning that a release or a trade may be coming. The course said that the two sides have been trying to work out a deal, but that the quarterback has not budged so far. Palmer is set to make $13 million next season and with the Raiders right up against the cap they would like some salary relief by moving money around (http://www.billszone.com/articles/12454/20130325/oakland-raiders-trade-rumors-darren-mcfadden-miami-dolphins-deal-option.htm).

The 33-year-old had a solid season a year after being acquired from the Bengals (http://www.billszone.com/articles/12454/20130325/oakland-raiders-trade-rumors-darren-mcfadden-miami-dolphins-deal-option.htm) and threw for over 4,000 yards last season with 22 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions. The team traded a first and second round draft pick for Palmer and likely do not want to cut him after just two seasons. The Raiders have said this offseason that they are comfortable with giving Terrelle Pryor time at quarterback and could draft Geno Smith with the number three pick if they are prepared (http://www.billszone.com/articles/12454/20130325/oakland-raiders-trade-rumors-darren-mcfadden-miami-dolphins-deal-option.htm) to move on from Palmer.

Oakland could try and trade Palmer to a team (http://www.billszone.com/articles/12454/20130325/oakland-raiders-trade-rumors-darren-mcfadden-miami-dolphins-deal-option.htm) like the Arizona Cardinals or Buffalo Bills, who both released their starting quarterbacks from last season in Kevin Kolb and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Those teams could wait and see if the Raiders decide to release him, as they know he isn't planning on cutting his salary, giving Oakland less of a position to negotiate.

[BillsFever21]

I don't see us ever wanting him since this team needs to build around a young QB. Palmer wouldn't be a good fit with this team. The Raiders were stupid in the first place to give up a 1st AND 2nd round draft pick for him. They gave up way too much especially with his current salary. He could've been had for a 3rd round draft pick or a 2nd at the very most.

[Albany,n.y.]

Palmer had enough of Cincinnati when he didn't see any playoffs in his future with them & refused to report until he was traded. Why would the writer think he would go to Buffalo? This is another example of bad journalism. Writer knows half a story-good chance Oakland will dump Palmer. Writer knows nothing about the 2nd half of the story-where Palmer will end up. Writer wants to write a story so writer sees two teams who recently released veteran starters & presto-he can now write a story with absolutely no foundation. Brilliant!

[Skooby]

L.A. to Buffalo move, talk about moving up the world.

[BertSquirtgum]

Why do these ******s always mention the Buffalo Bills whenever some ****ty quarterback might become available? Some of the people working for the Bills want to win. Picking up any of these losers will not help out their situation.

[swiper]

Palmer had enough of Cincinnati when he didn't see any playoffs in his future with them & refused to report until he was traded. Why would the writer think he would go to Buffalo? This is another example of bad journalism. Writer knows half a story-good chance Oakland will dump Palmer. Writer knows nothing about the 2nd half of the story-where Palmer will end up. Writer wants to write a story so writer sees two teams who recently released veteran starters & presto-he can now write a story with absolutely no foundation. Brilliant!

Thought you guys would like it! :D:

[Skooby]

Thought you guys would like it!

Yeah, not to happen (which it won't).

[Bangarang]

ESPN throwing crap at the wall is not what I would consider a rumor.

[TigerJ]

I don't think that's a terrible idea if Buffalo could actually sign him as a free agent at a decent price, something I don't expect to happen. Buffalo would have to wait, first for Oakland to cut him, and then hope that Palmer finds the market is pretty cool for his services. The first step is likely, the second may not be. If Arizona makes a run at him in free agency, I suspect Palmer might prefer the Cardinals to Buffalo since Bruce Arians is their coach. Arians has much more of reputation as an NFL coach who's had success developing QBs and who runs a QB friendly offensive system that features a vertical passing game. In other words, if Palmer has visions of regaining star status in the twilight of his NFL career, Arizona gives him better odds of achieving that, particularly with Larry Fitzgerald as his primary receiver.

[BillsFever21]

Why do these ******s always mention the Buffalo Bills whenever some ****ty quarterback might become available? Some of the people working for the Bills want to win. Picking up any of these losers will not help out their situation.

Because they don't have any inside information and is just looking for an article to post. Since teams like the Bills and Cardinals just got rid of their previous starting QB's it makes an easy and convenient article to include teams like us. It doesn't matter whether it fits where our team is at the time.

The only team that would be a right fit for Palmer would be somebody who has a good team already built around him but they have an awful QB or a young QB that isn't ready or already failed. They would just be looking for a veteran with past success to keep the seat warm for a couple years while they groom a young QB and hope that he puts/keeps them in contention in the process.

Since there isn't really any of them type of teams right now it would take a bad team that is just looking for a name QB to try and sell a few more tickets while he keeps the seat warm for a couple years until they tried to find a long-term solution. Even though we would fit that equation it wouldn't make any sense to bring him in. He isn't a long-term solution and our team isn't even good enough to compete for a playoff spot at the moment.

[Mr. Pink]

Palmer here, with a significant pay cut for 2 years would be a nice bridge to the QB to the future.

Whether we draft that guy this year or next.

I'd feel better with a young QB learning under Palmer than TJax.

[Scumbag College]

Didn't the Raiders just give up last year's number one pick for Palmer? It would be insane on their part to dump him after one year.

It is the Raiders, though.

[clumping platelets]

Palmer here, with a significant pay cut for 2 years would be a nice bridge to the QB to the future.

Whether we draft that guy this year or next.

I'd feel better with a young QB learning under Palmer than TJax.


I agree :up:

[cookie G]

Didn't the Raiders just give up last year's number one pick for Palmer? It would be insane on their part to dump him after one year.

It is the Raiders, though.

And a 2nd this year.

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More Bills QB rumors.............


Report: Three teams showing interest in Seahawks QB Matt Flynn

Posted by Curtis Crabtree on March 26, 2013, 11:05 PM EDT
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The market for Seattle Seahawks quarterback Matt Flynn (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4949/matt-flynn) could finally be heating up after remaining lukewarm so far this offseason.

According to Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com, the Jacksonville Jaguars are the most likely destination (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason-la-canfora/21953816/jaguars-bills-raiders-in-mix-for-seahawks-backup-qb-matt-flynn) for the Seahawks backup quarterback to end up if he’s traded this offseason. The Oakland Raiders and Buffalo Bills are also expressing interest.

New Jaguars head coach Gus Bradley is familiar with Flynn as he served as the Seahawks defensive coordinator prior to being hired in Jacksonville. Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie was with Flynn in Green Bay and is aware of his abilities as well. Buffalo traded for another Seahawks quarterback last year in Tarvaris Jackson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3708/tarvaris-jackson) late in the preseason to serve as backup to Ryan Fitzpatrick (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3240/ryan-fitzpatrick).

Seattle has expressed their willingness to keep Flynn (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/28/seahawks-sound-content-to-keep-matt-flynn-as-a-backup/) as a backup next season despite his large contract. With starter Russell Wilson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7460/russell-wilson) on a rookie third round contract for another two seasons, Seattle isn’t in a position where Flynn’s contract is a burden to their salary cap this season. Despite the offseason acquisitions of Percy Harvin (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5197/percy-harvin), Cliff Avril (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4834/cliff-avril) and Michael Bennett (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5530/michael-bennett), the Seahawks are still around $6 million under the salary cap for next season.

“Our primary salary cap model included [Flynn] for the season and that’s a heck of a number two to have,” general manager John Schenider said in an interview with the Mitch in the Morning show on Sports Radio KJR in Seattle on Tuesday. “…The salary cap now with the CBA, the way things work with not being able to re-do [rookie contracts] for three years, we’re very much at peace with that situation.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/26/report-three-teams-showing-interest-in-seahawks-qb-matt-flynn/

[don137]

Why would Palmer take a pay cut to come to Buffalo? Buffalo will not pay him at his current contract. Until I hear he will do that it is just babble to write an article. He would be an ok player while the drafted QB develops.

[DraftBoy]

If the Bills trade for a QB you can all but bet they will not be going a QB in Round 1 or 2.

[OpIv37]

people are reading too much into this.

It goes like this: The Bills need a QB. There is a 24 hour sports news cycle. Most of the FA's have signed, it's the off-season and the draft is still 3 weeks away, so there isn't 24 hours worth of sports news. Therefore, every time a QB becomes available, the talking heads are going to mention Buffalo as a potential landing spot because they need something to say. It doesn't mean the team has actually expressed interest in the guy.

And Palmer's washed up. He's an expensive stop-gap at best. Pass.

[Pinkerton Security]

L.A. to Buffalo move, talk about moving up the world.

Didnt realize Oakland was now considered part of LA. Or are you stuck pre-1994?

[swiper]

If the Bills trade for a QB you can all but bet they will not be going a QB in Round 1 or 2.

I guess they are asking themselves whether Flynn is better than Geno Smith (or whoever they figure will be the best guy available to them at #8).

[jdaltroy5]

Why do these ******s always mention the Buffalo Bills whenever some ****ty quarterback might become available? Some of the people working for the Bills want to win. Picking up any of these losers will not help out their situation.

They're not wrong.

We've been a safe haven for ****ty QBs for the last 15 years.

[jdaltroy5]

If the Bills trade for a QB you can all but bet they will not be going a QB in Round 1 or 2.
That would be the typical Bills mentality.

"Hey, we picked up some overpaid ****ty QB. No need to make a real investment into the most important position."

[DraftBoy]

That would be the typical Bills mentality.

"Hey, we picked up some overpaid ****ty QB. No need to make a real investment into the most important position."

Yes and that mentality would be incorrect. Simply drafting a first or second round QB does not mean you make a smart investment. We could easily find a QB in Round 3 who becomes the best QB out of this class, maybe he's the worst. In a class like this one its far better to wait and see what happens in front of you while taking more talented players other teams are passing on due to QB thirst.

[better days]

Yes and that mentality would be incorrect. Simply drafting a first or second round QB does not mean you make a smart investment. We could easily find a QB in Round 3 who becomes the best QB out of this class, maybe he's the worst. In a class like this one its far better to wait and see what happens in front of you while taking more talented players other teams are passing on due to QB thirst.

The Bills have drafted best player available for the last 13 years. The QB position has been ignored in Buffalo far too long. That is the reason we NEED a QB NOW.

Highly unlikely you can find the diamond in the rough in the 3rd rnd of this draft. If a diamond is there, it needs to be mined in the 1st rnd.

[jdaltroy5]

Yes and that mentality would be incorrect. Simply drafting a first or second round QB does not mean you make a smart investment. We could easily find a QB in Round 3 who becomes the best QB out of this class, maybe he's the worst. In a class like this one its far better to wait and see what happens in front of you while taking more talented players other teams are passing on due to QB thirst.

See it's that mentality that has put us in the situation we're in.

QBs generally go higher than most people expect them to.

By most accounts, Nix has nailed the last 3 first round picks and we STILL suck. Why? Because we don't have a QB.

By no means am I advocating that we take a 7th round talent in the 1st round, but if you target a QB and think he's going to be good, then take him in the first. Who cares if he only has a late first/early second round grade on him.

We haven't put any serious effort or investment into the QB position in almost a decade and, lo and behold, we haven't gotten any serious return.

It's like buying your jeans in the grocery store and then getting mad when they rip and don't fit you properly.

[jwenger]

Why do these ******s always mention the Buffalo Bills whenever some ****ty quarterback might become available? Some of the people working for the Bills want to win. Picking up any of these losers will not help out their situation.

I agree HN. Lets get some new guys in here. Both this year and NEXT YEAR TOO.
We were winners when we had multiple QBs. like Jack Kemp and Daryl LaMonica
and Jim Kelly and Frank Reich. Lets do it again with E.J.Manuel and Johnny Manziel.

[trapezeus]

See it's that mentality that has put us in the situation we're in.

QBs generally go higher than most people expect them to.

By most accounts, Nix has nailed the last 3 first round picks and we STILL suck. Why? Because we don't have a QB.

By no means am I advocating that we take a 7th round talent in the 1st round, but if you target a QB and think he's going to be good, then take him in the first. Who cares if he only has a late first/early second round grade on him.

We haven't put any serious effort or investment into the QB position in almost a decade and, lo and behold, we haven't gotten any serious return.

It's like buying your jeans in the grocery store and then getting mad when they rip and don't fit you properly.


hey i love those jeans!

[jdaltroy5]

The Bills have drafted best player available for the last 13 years. The QB position has been ignored in Buffalo far too long. That is the reason we NEED a QB NOW.

Highly unlikely you can find the diamond in the rough in the 3rd rnd of this draft. If a diamond is there, it needs to be mined in the 1st rnd.

By the time the third round rolls around, it's always slim pickins for QBs.

I don't understand why anyone would want to try to get the 7th or 8th best QB when we could have one of the top three.

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hey i love those jeans!

And people loved Ryan Fitzpatrick...

[trapezeus]

prior to the release of D jones, D nelson, levitre, i would have been fine taking 2-3 qbs and seeing if that was all that that offense needed...1 good qb who was accurate.

but since the team is blown up on offense, i think you are setting a rookie up for some big time failures without getting the scheme set and a line comfortably gelled.

but i'm not in the front office, so what the hell do i know.
I also wanted T Jax playing last season, simply so that we knew that he couldn't be trotted out this year as some sort of solution.

[jdaltroy5]

prior to the release of D jones, D nelson, levitre, i would have been fine taking 2-3 qbs and seeing if that was all that that offense needed...1 good qb who was accurate.

but since the team is blown up on offense, i think you are setting a rookie up for some big time failures without getting the scheme set and a line comfortably gelled.

but i'm not in the front office, so what the hell do i know.
I also wanted T Jax playing last season, simply so that we knew that he couldn't be trotted out this year as some sort of solution.

I was hoping we could keep Levitre and Nelson, then draft a big WR or TE and possibly a big mauling RT.

The hope was to be a run-first team, but also have some easy outlets for the young QB when he gets in trouble.

[Ed]

Hopefully between the Jags, Raiders, and Cards, two of them end up getting Flynn and Palmer. It would be pretty awesome if the Bills at least had their choice of qb's in the draft.

[DraftBoy]

The Bills have drafted best player available for the last 13 years. The QB position has been ignored in Buffalo far too long. That is the reason we NEED a QB NOW.

Highly unlikely you can find the diamond in the rough in the 3rd rnd of this draft. If a diamond is there, it needs to be mined in the 1st rnd.

No they've continually not done that.

[DraftBoy]

See it's that mentality that has put us in the situation we're in.

QBs generally go higher than most people expect them to.

By most accounts, Nix has nailed the last 3 first round picks and we STILL suck. Why? Because we don't have a QB.

By no means am I advocating that we take a 7th round talent in the 1st round, but if you target a QB and think he's going to be good, then take him in the first. Who cares if he only has a late first/early second round grade on him.

We haven't put any serious effort or investment into the QB position in almost a decade and, lo and behold, we haven't gotten any serious return.

It's like buying your jeans in the grocery store and then getting mad when they rip and don't fit you properly.

No we suck because this team isn't close to what most fans thought and they are now realize how large the talent gap truly is. For everybody who wants to say its only a season or two to turn around they are looking at this right now and realizing no its really not. A QB is only part of the equation (albeit the largest part) but if you can't protect him, giving him targets to throw to, or a strong rushing attack to take some pressure off of him then you're never going to be an elite team. That's what this is all about, you guys want a QB just to say we have one. The rest of us want the right QB to take this team all the way. .500, making the playoffs, or even winning 1-2 playoff games is not enough.

Also no serious investment in a QB in nearly a decade? We've put two first round picks (JP Losman, and Rob Johnson), traded for a veteran in Drew Bledsoe, and spent another two draft picks (3rd and a 7th) in QB's. They were not all smart investments but to say we haven't seriously invested in the position is just wrong.

[Buffalo Billy Bison]

Why do these ******s always mention the Buffalo Bills whenever some ****ty quarterback might become available? Some of the people working for the Bills want to win. Picking up any of these losers will not help out their situation.

Because we haven't had a QB since Jim Kelly and anyone who has experience in the NFL and has had some success would be a candidate for coming to Buffalo. Not that he would but the suggestion makes fans read about it!

[jdaltroy5]

No we suck because this team isn't close to what most fans thought and they are now realize how large the talent gap truly is.Well that's weird. We've been going BPA for the last three years. This team should be stacked.


For everybody who wants to say its only a season or two to turn around they are looking at this right now and realizing no its really not.It could be. It won't be if we decide to procrastinate on the QB position.


A QB is only part of the equation (albeit the largest part) but if you can't protect him, giving him targets to throw to, or a strong rushing attack to take some pressure off of him then you're never going to be an elite team. We already have an OL that can protect and strong rushing attack. Ideally, Nix would've kept Levitre & Nelson and added a big WR/TE in the draft, but that would've made too much sense.


That's what this is all about, you guys want a QB just to say we have one. The rest of us want the right QB to take this team all the way. .500, making the playoffs, or even winning 1-2 playoff games is not enough. I can say, "I don't want to take a QB just to take one" until the cows come home but it's not going to stop some of you guys from saying stupid things like that. If you think the QB is going to be successful in the league, you take him at 8. Don't get cute and hope he falls to the second round or try to trade back and pick up extra picks. Just take the guy at 8th overall.


Also no serious investment in a QB in nearly a decade? We've put two first round picks (JP Losman,9 years ago


and Rob Johnson14 years ago


traded for a veteran in Drew Bledsoe11 years ago


and spent another two draft picks (3rd and a 7th) in QB's.Oooh a third and a seventh in the last 5 years. That's a super serious investment! How did that not work out??

9, 11, and 14 years ago. Almost a decade.


They were not all smart investments but to say we haven't seriously invested in the position is just wrong.To think that we've seriously invested in the position is just stupid.

You guys want to wait until there's a perfect QB prospect out there and we have a high enough pick to take him. In over 50 years of Buffalo Bill football, do you want to know how times there's been a top 3 QB prospect on the board and we've had a high enough pick to grab him?

Once.

One. Friggin'. Time.

That was over 30 years ago too.

You guys can keep being delusional and think that it's going to happen next year, but I hope Nix doesn't think the same way. His "next year" franchise QB has eluded him for 3 years now.

[better days]

No they've continually not done that.

OK NAME the 13 QBs the Bills have drafted in the last 13 years.

The Bills have drafted the best player available in their minds, NOT a QB.

[swiper]

The Bills have drafted best player available for the last 13 years. The QB position has been ignored in Buffalo far too long. That is the reason we NEED a QB NOW.

Highly unlikely you can find the diamond in the rough in the 3rd rnd of this draft. If a diamond is there, it needs to be mined in the 1st rnd.

There isn't.

Would you blow a bunch of picks to move up to KC's spot to take Smith then have him turn out like Akili Smith?

[jdaltroy5]

OK NAME the 13 QBs the Bills have drafted in the last 13 years.

The Bills have drafted the best player available in their minds, NOT a QB.

We've spent a third on seventh rounder on a QB since we drafted JP in the first.

C'mon man, what more do you want from this organization?

They're trying their best!

[better days]

There isn't.

Would you blow a bunch of picks to move up to KC's spot to take Smith then have him turn out like Akili Smith?

I am not advocating trading up for Smith. I don't even know that the Bills think he is the best QB in this draft.

[jdaltroy5]

There isn't.

Would you blow a bunch of picks to move up to KC's spot to take Smith then have him turn out like Akili Smith?

I'd like to know where you guys are getting these crystal balls of yours.

So many of you are so sure that no QB in this draft is going to make it.

What are you basing it on exactly?

[better days]

We've spent a third on seventh rounder on a QB since we drafted JP in the first.

C'mon man, what more do you want from this organization.

They're trying their best!

Well, at the time the Bills drafted Trent, they said they did so because he was the BPA at that time.

[jdaltroy5]

Well, at the time the Bills drafted Trent, they said they did so because he was the BPA at that time.

That's what happens when you only take BPA and never "reach" on a QB.

You end up with Trent Edwards.

[swiper]

I'd like to know where you guys are getting these crystal balls of yours.

So many of you are so sure that no QB in this draft is going to make it.

What are you basing it on exactly?

It's only been widely written about in the media, reported by pro-personnel men, etc. since the last draft. Most every so-called expert has been saying so.

Wish I could find the article that was written recently that says if Gabbert was coming out this year he'd be the first guy taken.

[JoeMama]

Carson Palmer has been mentally checked out since at least 2008.

There's just no spark in that guy anymore.

I have absolutely no desire to see him in a Bills uniform. In fact it would probably set us back.

[better days]

It's only been widely written about in the media, reported by pro-personnel men, etc. since the last draft. Most every so-called expert has been saying so.

Wish I could find the article that was written recently that says if Gabbert was coming out this year he'd be the first guy taken.

Yeah, you find that article & link it. LAST YEAR people were saying it was not a good draft at first with the exception of Luck. Then they started saying RGIII MIGHT be a good QB & he started moving up the mock drafts.

People are already saying Geno is going high & everyone is NOW saying two or three QBs will be drafted in the FIRST RND.

[jdaltroy5]

It's only been widely written about in the media, reported by pro-personnel men, etc. since the last draft. Most every so-called expert has been saying so.
Oh, ok then.

Except Russ Lande called Nassib the best prospect in the draft. Not the best QB prospect. The best prospect.

He said, "I am confident that he will develop into a high end starting quarterback in the NFL."

Cosell believes more than three QBs will be taken in the first round.

Lots of scouts are reportedly drooling over Smith.

Sure, there's no Luck in this draft, but that guy is a once in a decade prospect.




Wish I could find the article that was written recently that says if Gabbert was coming out this year he'd be the first guy taken.

The reason that you can't find that "article" written recently about Blaine Gabbert, is because it wasn't an article. It was a comment. By the Jags QB coach.

[TigerJ]

I don't think there is any way a trade happens. Palmer isn't inclined to renegotiate, and Buffalo won't be any more inclined to pay that inflated salary than Oakland is, nor, in all likelihood will Arizona. If Oakland cuts Palmer, which I think is more likely, then Palmer is going to get a reality check about his true worth. Then If he wants to sign with BBBuffalo at a fair price, I wouldn't mind it, but I think Palmer, all things being equal, would choose Arizona over Buffalo.

[swiper]

Oh, ok then.

Except Russ Lande called Nassib the best prospect in the draft. Not the best QB prospect. The best prospect.

He said, "I am confident that he will develop into a high end starting quarterback in the NFL."

Cosell believes more than three QBs will be taken in the first round.

Lots of scouts are reportedly drooling over Smith.

Sure, there's no Luck in this draft, but that guy is a once in a decade prospect.





The reason that you can't find that "article" written recently about Blaine Gabbert, is because it wasn't an article. It was a comment. By the Jags QB coach.


You should stop quoting Russ Lande.

Mayock thinks 3 or 4 QBs go in the 1st. Kiper says none.

But Lande? Please.

[kishoph]

It's only been widely written about in the media, reported by pro-personnel men, etc. since the last draft. Most every so-called expert has been saying so.

Wish I could find the article that was written recently that says if Gabbert was coming out this year he'd be the first guy taken.


Most of the same "experts" that said or Russell Wilson was worth a 3rd thru 5th round pick, or Colin Kaepernick was only worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Kiper on Kaepernick,
“I think he’s a prospect, but long term. You’ve got to be patient with him. I think in year two or year three, he’ll be better off. I think he’s solidly in the second- or third-round mix.”

[swiper]

Most of the same "experts" that said or Russell Wilson was worth a 3rd thru 5th round pick, or Colin Kaepernick was only worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Kiper on Kaepernick,
“I think he’s a prospect, but long term. You’ve got to be patient with him. I think in year two or year three, he’ll be better off. I think he’s solidly in the second- or third-round mix.”

I don't think you can take any one 'expert' very seriously. But when everybody seems to agree this is a subpar draft class for QBs then there is probably something to it.

[swiper]

Why would Palmer take a pay cut to come to Buffalo? Buffalo will not pay him at his current contract. Until I hear he will do that it is just babble to write an article. He would be an ok player while the drafted QB develops.

Report: Carson Palmer would rather play for less elsewhere than take paycut with Raiders (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/28/report-carson-palmer-may-want-to-play-for-less-elsewhere-than-take-paycut-with-raiders/)

[jdaltroy5]

You should stop quoting Russ Lande.

Mayock thinks 3 or 4 QBs go in the 1st. Kiper says none.

But Lande? Please.

So Russ Lande knows nothing and Mel Kiper's word is gospel?

Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Lande doesn't agree with you does it?

BTW, Russ Lande was a former pro scout. Mel Kiper...not so much.

The point is that contrary to your statement, there ARE lots of people in the media that think there are first round worthy QBs.

[better days]

I don't think you can take any one 'expert' very seriously. But when everybody seems to agree this is a subpar draft class for QBs then there is probably something to it.

Well, listening to the experts, everybody NOW agrees three or four of these QBs will be drafted in the first rnd.

[jdaltroy5]

I don't think you can take any one 'expert' very seriously. But when everybody seems to agree this is a subpar draft class for QBs then there is probably something to it.
No one is saying that this is a great QB class.

Do you want to wait until there's an Andrew Luck type prospect on the board AND we have a high enough pick to take him?

Think back to how many times that has actually happened in Bills history. Don't give me the Aaron Rodgers or Joe Flacco BS either. Those guys had question marks, otherwise, they wouldn't have fallen to where they did.

Sooner or later, the Bills are going to HAVE to take a QB with question marks.

Why procrastinate?

[X-Era]

You should stop quoting Russ Lande.

Mayock thinks 3 or 4 QBs go in the 1st. Kiper says none.

But Lande? Please.Kiper says none?

No. What Kiper says is what many think, none are worth high 1st round picks. Kipers ranks are based strictly on how he ranks the players. NOT where he thinks they will be drafted.

It's his ranks versus his mock. He has Geno going to the Cards as does McShay.

Many now think only Geno will go in the 1st. Personally I think the Bills may be the team that determines whether 3 go in the 1st or not. If Barkley and Geno are gone, I think it's a legit chance that they take the #3 QB at 8. If only 1 goes before them I think they take #2. And if none go, I think they take Geno and it could be the only one to go in the 1st.

The Jets could be the team below us that takes one in the 1st too.

[DraftBoy]

For what it's worth Lande is now either Toronto or Montreal's College Scouting Director.

[jdaltroy5]

For what it's worth Lande is now either Toronto or Montreal's College Scouting Director.
Does he work for ESPN though?

Apparently in order to accurately predict a QB's future, you must only work for ESPN.