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  • trapezeus
    Legendary Zoner
    • Oct 2004
    • 19525

    google: Miller to tampa trade and

    there are some articles about how there was a tweet that lead to a lot of speculation that tampa is asking about miller.

    i know it doesn't seem to make sense, but we are 5-6 days away from trade DL, so almost any idea will be thrown out. any prospects in the TB system that would strike our fancy?
  • Ginger Vitis
    Registered User
    • Feb 2009
    • 3451

    #2
    Re: google: Miller to tampa trade and

    Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
    there are some articles about how there was a tweet that lead to a lot of speculation that tampa is asking about miller.

    i know it doesn't seem to make sense, but we are 5-6 days away from trade DL, so almost any idea will be thrown out. any prospects in the TB system that would strike our fancy?
    Wgr this morning reported the rumoured name being thrown out is Brett Connolly who was the 6th overall pick in 2010. Connolly has 56 points in 65 games with Tampas AHL team the Syracuse Crunch.. It should be noted Tampa Bay has many good prospects and there "farm" system is one of the stronger ones in the NHL so Yzerman wouldnt hesistate to move a prospect or 2 to land a Veteran like Ryan Miller

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    • MitchMurrayDowntown
      Skoobasaurus-Rex
      • Oct 2011
      • 22284

      #3
      Re: google: Miller to tampa trade and

      Prospects for Team USA's starting goalie ??

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      • Ginger Vitis
        Registered User
        • Feb 2009
        • 3451

        #4
        Re: google: Miller to tampa trade and

        Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
        Team USA's starting goalie ??
        It's 2013 not 2010..

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        • MitchMurrayDowntown
          Skoobasaurus-Rex
          • Oct 2011
          • 22284

          #5
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          Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
          It's 2013 not 2010..
          Oh ok, carry on.

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          • OpIv37
            Acid Douching Asswipe
            • Sep 2002
            • 101260

            #6
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            Trading Miller is a catch-22.

            One one hand, Enroth isn't quite ready to be a starter, and may never be, and there isn't much in the system as far as goalie prospects. So, we are completely up **** creek if we trade Miller.

            On the other hand, trading Miller means we're sellers and the FO FINALLY understands that it's time to break it down.
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            • Mski
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              • Mar 2006
              • 6753

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              Re: google: Miller to tampa trade and

              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
              Trading Miller is a catch-22.

              One one hand, Enroth isn't quite ready to be a starter, and may never be, and there isn't much in the system as far as goalie prospects. So, we are completely up **** creek if we trade Miller.

              On the other hand, trading Miller means we're sellers and the FO FINALLY understands that it's time to break it down.
              I guess the kid in Rochester is pretty good, and the reason he hasnt been brought up is to continue to get regular playing time, not sit on the bench
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              • OpIv37
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                • Sep 2002
                • 101260

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                Originally posted by Mski View Post
                I guess the kid in Rochester is pretty good, and the reason he hasnt been brought up is to continue to get regular playing time, not sit on the bench
                If we move Miller, I'd be happy having him and Enroth split the remaining games. Finishing 15 is no different than finishing 9th. Get them the experience.
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                • Mski
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                  • Mar 2006
                  • 6753

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                  Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                  If we move Miller, I'd be happy having him and Enroth split the remaining games. Finishing 15 is no different than finishing 9th. Get them the experience.
                  no there is a BIG difference between finishing 15th or 9th, the difference is a top 3 pick that will have an immediate impact on the team next year or another pick around 10th that will take a few years to be impactful
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                  • Dude
                    that slimey ass of an ***** at the zone
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 18176

                    #10
                    Re: google: Miller to tampa trade and

                    They haven't won anything *with* Miller, and the FO has no clue how to put a decent team in front of him, so there's no reason to think they really need him anymore.

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                    • jamze132
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                      • Jun 2003
                      • 29340

                      #11
                      Re: google: Miller to tampa trade and

                      At this point, I'm cool with trading Miller provided we get a boatload in return. Top prospect and a 1st RDer or two.

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                      • Mski
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6753

                        #12
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                        Originally posted by Dude View Post
                        They haven't won anything *with* Miller, and the FO has no clue how to put a decent team in front of him, so there's no reason to think they really need him anymore.
                        Jeremy White has been making this point alot lately...

                        we've been losing with Miller, why not lose with someone that makes significantly less, and use that other 6MM/yr on someone who can put the puck in the net.

                        how many games has Miller singlehandedly won for us this year?
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                        • OpIv37
                          Acid Douching Asswipe
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 101260

                          #13
                          Re: google: Miller to tampa trade and

                          I listen to NHL Radio on Sirius XM sometimes and they speculate a lot that Miller is unhappy in Buffalo and that's a reason for his inconsistent play.

                          I can't say for sure if it's true, but it makes sense. Guys like Leino, Myers and Vanek get huge contracts while he takes less money to play with the team, then they consistently fail to put quality in front of him. It's a good point that Miller hasn't singlehandedly won us any games this year, but he also rarely if ever singlehandedly cost us the games. That one ****ty goal he gave up with under a second left in OT is the only one I can think of, and you can argue whether that was his fault because the defender should have just hauled the guy down with no time left.

                          Think of the last game against TB. He only gave up two goals, and one was on a 5 on 3. Yet, the team only manages to score 1.....

                          It must be frustrating to play well enough to win far more often than not, and still lose because the rest of the team hangs him out to dry.
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                          • Mski
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                            • Mar 2006
                            • 6753

                            #14
                            Re: google: Miller to tampa trade and

                            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                            I listen to NHL Radio on Sirius XM sometimes and they speculate a lot that Miller is unhappy in Buffalo and that's a reason for his inconsistent play.

                            I can't say for sure if it's true, but it makes sense. Guys like Leino, Myers and Vanek get huge contracts while he takes less money to play with the team, then they consistently fail to put quality in front of him. It's a good point that Miller hasn't singlehandedly won us any games this year, but he also rarely if ever singlehandedly cost us the games. That one ****ty goal he gave up with under a second left in OT is the only one I can think of, and you can argue whether that was his fault because the defender should have just hauled the guy down with no time left.

                            Think of the last game against TB. He only gave up two goals, and one was on a 5 on 3. Yet, the team only manages to score 1.....

                            It must be frustrating to play well enough to win far more often than not, and still lose because the rest of the team hangs him out to dry.
                            thats part of the same point. the league has gone from one in which "elite" goaltenders are what everyone looks for to build a team around, to everyone who plays at this level are all really good, and it doesnt matter if you win 5-4 or 1-0 as long as you win, and its easier to build a winning team around players who put the puck in the net rather than ones who keep it out
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                            • YankeeInRaleigh
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                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1263

                              #15
                              Re: google: Miller to tampa trade and

                              I don't see anyone trading Miller for a prospect.
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