Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101255

    Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

    Is Kolb better than Jackson and Corp? Probably, but that's not saying much. He's not a franchise QB. He's not the guy we need. He's not good- he's good enough.



    Kolb is Fitzpatrick 2.0. He's a QB that was OK but never quite caught on elsewhere, then brought here to be the starter.

    Kolb's numbers:


    Fitz's numbers:


    For their careers, Kolb is only half a yard better in yards per attempt, and that's WITH Fitzgerald on his team. Like or hate Stevie, he's no Fitzgerald. Kolb's QB rating is barely 2 points better than Fitz, 78.9 to 76.8. The only area in which Kolb is noticeably better than Fitz is turnovers.

    I know, "but it was AZ's OL." Of course, that goes with the mantra of this site of not holding players responsible. "It's not (Stevie, McKelvin, Donte, TJ or other guy the poster likes)'s fault, it's the (QB, coach, coordinator, system, OL, pass rush or other unpopular part of the team)'s fault." Yes, team sports are easier for an individual player when they are on a better team. That's true for every player on every team in every sport at every level, no exceptions. But some players make the players around them better, and some players need better players around them. Kolb is yet another one of the latter.

    It's easier to blame AZ's OL. It's more pleasant than accepting the reality that we still don't have our franchise QB. It's more pleasant than accepting the reality that our FO that has made so many mistakes in the past has made yet another one. It can't be that our new QB is just like our old one. It has to be AZ's OL.

    And let's not forget that we lost a great starting G and our only halfway decent backup. And our T's and OL depth weren't the greatest last year....

    And let's not forget that Kolb tends to get injured, which means we're right back to starting TJax, only with $6 million of cap space flushed down the toilet instead of being used on a G or LB or CB or WR.

    We need a franchise QB. There isn't one available. So, we did what we always do in Buffalo: settled for what's left. And we did it at the expense of filling another hole. Kolb's on the team now and I hope he succeeds. I hope he becomes a franchise QB. There is just no logical reason to expect it to happen. It's still Groundhog Day in Buffalo.
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  • SpikedLemonade
    • Jun 2024

    #2
    Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

    As long as this move does not get in the way of our 2-14 or worse season, then it does not bother me.

    We do not need another 5-11 or 6-10 season.

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    • SABURZFAN
      short bus extraordinaire
      • Jul 2002
      • 50747

      #3
      Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

      a two year contract is long enough to find a QB who IS a franchise QB. c'mon.... we've gone over this MANY times.
      Originally posted by yordad
      Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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      • justasportsfan
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 71580

        #4
        Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

        I have yet to see anyone say he's the answer. But having a player with both NFL experience and running the WCO is better than just TJax ,Corp and a rookie at camp. I don't think the bills are expecting our franchise qb to come from FA.
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        • Cali512
          Registered User
          • Jan 2012
          • 6393

          #5
          Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

          Watch a ****in game will ya? Kolbs OL was horrible and if there was ever a legit excuse for bad play, its now
          Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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          • Jeff1220
            H to the 12:20
            • Jul 2002
            • 6137

            #6
            Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

            They'll probably still draft a guy. If none of that works (a likely scenario), then they draft a guy again next year. Signing Kolb is not a good move or a bad move, it was the only possible move at this time. They didn't give up a pick or picks and can go into the draft with more flexibility than if they hadn't signed him. Any complaining this team has created shouldn't be about signing Kolb, it should be about not doing something in the last few years that would've prevented this whole scenario. Now this is the bed they've made and we all have to sleep in it. Hopefully one of these '13 QBs in a hidden gem.

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            • OpIv37
              Acid Douching Asswipe
              • Sep 2002
              • 101255

              #7
              Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

              Originally posted by SABURZFAN View Post
              a two year contract is long enough to find a QB who IS a franchise QB. c'mon.... we've gone over this MANY times.
              he had two years in Arizona.....

              But it'll be different in Buffalo, right? Doing the same thing and expecting different results ALWAYS works.....
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              • YardRat
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                • Dec 2004
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                #8
                Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

                Pretty sure no one is expecting Kolb to be a saviour, and kicking the idea of still looking for a 'franchise' QB to the curb just because we signed him.
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                • better days
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 22028

                  #9
                  Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

                  NOBODY has said Kolb is a franchise QB. HE is a MUCH cheaper replacement for Fitz. But you are right Op we could have just gone with TJax, Corp & the Rookie. Talk about accepting mediocrity.

                  And even if Andy Corp was the QB next season, I would bet the Bills win 6 games.

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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101255

                    #10
                    Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

                    Just to give some more perspective to this:

                    AZ cut Kolb. The QB's on their roster right now:
                    6 Hoyer, Brian QB 6-2 215 27 4 Michigan State
                    14 Lindley, Ryan QB 6-4 230 23 R San Diego State
                    19 Skelton, John QB 6-6 244 25 3 Fordham
                    5 Stanton, Drew QB 6-3 243 28 6 Michigan State

                    That's even WORSE than TJax and Corp- at least TJax has some NFL starts.

                    We took a reject from AZ that left them with a worse QB situation than what we have. Just let that sink in for a minute.
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                    • OpIv37
                      Acid Douching Asswipe
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 101255

                      #11
                      Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

                      Originally posted by better days View Post
                      NOBODY has said Kolb is a franchise QB. HE is a MUCH cheaper replacement for Fitz. But you are right Op we could have just gone with TJax, Corp & the Rookie. Talk about accepting mediocrity.

                      And even if Andy Corp was the QB next season, I would bet the Bills win 6 games.
                      We are no better with Kolb than we were with TJax and Corp. Kolb sucks.

                      THERE IS NO FRANCHISE QB AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. THIS TEAM HAS MORE HOLES THAN CAN POSSIBLY BE ADDRESSED IN ONE OFF SEASON.

                      The only smart thing to do is to put the resources toward other positions that may actually get fixed and wait on an opportunity to get a real QB. It sucks, but it's the only shot we have. Signing Fitz 2.0 just sets us back.

                      Oh, and we're eating Fitz's cap hit. Fitz's cap hit that we are eating plus Kolb's cap hit is not cheaper than keeping Fitz. And it definitely won't be next year.

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                      Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                      Pretty sure no one is expecting Kolb to be a saviour, and kicking the idea of still looking for a 'franchise' QB to the curb just because we signed him.
                      Do you honestly think the FO will do that? "Well we feel Kevin Kolb is a great fit here and is capable of leading our team." The FO's never said some crap like that before, right?
                      Last edited by OpIv37; 04-01-2013, 04:38 PM.
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                      • justasportsfan
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71580

                        #12
                        Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

                        Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                        Just to give some more perspective to this:

                        AZ cut Kolb. The QB's on their roster right now:
                        6 Hoyer, Brian QB 6-2 215 27 4 Michigan State
                        14 Lindley, Ryan QB 6-4 230 23 R San Diego State
                        19 Skelton, John QB 6-6 244 25 3 Fordham
                        5 Stanton, Drew QB 6-3 243 28 6 Michigan State

                        That's even WORSE than TJax and Corp- at least TJax has some NFL starts.

                        We took a reject from AZ that left them with a worse QB situation than what we have. Just let that sink in for a minute.
                        Ariz's new head doesn't think Kolb is the answer just like I doubt the bills think Kolb is the answer , so whats the problem?
                        Last edited by justasportsfan; 04-01-2013, 04:39 PM.
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                        • delectrolux
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                          • May 2007
                          • 199

                          #13
                          Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

                          Tarvaris Jackson, Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson. That's how the Seahawks found their QB. So, we've got our Tarvaris Jackson, and Kolb is our Matt Flynn (seriously, Flynn is just Kolb from 3 years ago). Now we go and draft our rookie. I know nobody in this draft is supposed to be as good as Russell Wilson – but Russell Wilson wasn't supposed to be as good as Russell Wilson.

                          So, it might work, it might not. But if we pick a QB in the first or second round, we're at least moving in the right direction.

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                          • Cali512
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 6393

                            #14
                            Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

                            Has anyone even got the V-Text that he signed?
                            Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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                            • OpIv37
                              Acid Douching Asswipe
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 101255

                              #15
                              Re: Desperation and accepting mediocrity are the only reasons to like the Kolb move.

                              Originally posted by Cali512 View Post
                              Watch a ****in game will ya? Kolbs OL was horrible and if there was ever a legit excuse for bad play, its now
                              Of course, it's NEVER my guy's fault.... it has to be SOMEONE ELSE's fault. No one is responsible for their own play.
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