Who should be safe after this year?

**Mski** · 04-10-2013, 01:06 PM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

guys that should(on current roster) be safe is a short list:

CoHo
Vanek
Ott
Myers
Erhof
Foligno
Porter - but i'd be willing to move him for the right return

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so six maybe 7 guys

**gebobs** · 04-10-2013, 01:38 PM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

No one is safe, but here's who I would want to keep...

Vanek...he's beat to hell and isn't the guy you want shouldering the load, but he is our best player.
Coho...RFA, best acquisition perhaps since Briere, huge upside, he should get $4M
Myers...gotta gotta hope he can bust out
Foligno...lot of upside, needs to play more like the power forward he should be
Sulzer...sure, why not, he's a bargain at $725k and deserves a hike
Ehrhoff...overpaid but too good to bury in Rochester
Flynn...RFA, no trade value, decent upside
Hackett...RFA, he's here and Enroth isn't just for the sake of change
Larsson...signed for 3 years, sure, why not
Pysyk...please be good

On the fence...

Miller...can't understand why he wasn't traded, great goalie but he's got to be fed up with the team in front of him
Ott...love the guy, but he's here only for his comment a few days ago, I'll forget it in a few days and he'll be back above
Leino...only choice is to send him off to the AHL
Adam...RFA, no trade value, little upside
Scott...UFA, someone will grab him and it won't take much
Pardy...UFA, replaceable
Weber...RFA, not sure if he has anything left to show
Enroth...RFA
Stafford...two years left on his contract, he's not going anywhere
Ennis...small but who's going to get on the scoreboard if he'd gone
Gerbe...nice spirit, but spirit only goes so far, one year left on the contract, he's borderline NHL material
Porter...meh, see what he brings next year
Sekera...decent defenseman, zero upside
McCormick...how you like Rochachacha?
Kaleta...needs a pay cut

Gone...

Hecht...UFA, see ya

**OpIv37** · 04-10-2013, 01:46 PM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

I wouldn't be opposed to moving Vanek but I'll be shocked if it happens. If we do move him I hope he goes out west somewhere- I think he could be dangerous as long as he's on a team where someone else can be the #1 guy.

We absolutely have to buy out Leino and find a way to unload Stafford.

I could go either way on Miller. We don't have a goalie in the organization anywhere near as good as him, but he seems like he needs a change of scenery and he's also going to bring in a bigger return than anyone else on the roster.

**whkfc** · 04-10-2013, 04:31 PM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

Leino can be bought out. He doesn't have to be hurried in the AHL. And I don't believe the salary can be hid in the AHL.

**swiper** · 04-10-2013, 05:19 PM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

Why does everybody want to keep Foligno. He's just not very good.

**Cali512** · 04-10-2013, 06:13 PM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

Originally posted by Swiper View Post

Why does everybody want to keep Foligno. He's just not very good.

With the right people yes he is. Hes off to a better start in his career than most sabres in recent history.

**Crisis** · 04-10-2013, 06:20 PM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

Originally posted by Swiper View Post

Why does everybody want to keep Foligno. He's just not very good.

Man if the fans were in charge of things 95% of young players would never amount to anything

**mightysimi** · 04-11-2013, 07:10 AM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

Originally posted by whkfc View Post

Leino can be bought out. He doesn't have to be hurried in the AHL. And I don't believe the salary can be hid in the AHL.

Right his whole salary minus 900K counts to the cap so no sense putting him down there.

**trapezeus** · 04-11-2013, 07:16 AM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

either get vanek a center who is good defensively and an assist machine. let vanek play a one way game, or trade him to the west for some huge upside.

sabres are going to need a gritty center to make hodgson a little more valuable as a line two center.

i can part with anyone for the right return. they all kind of been unimpressive at times. and if a big turnover of personel happens to just get rid of the stink these guuys created, i'm for it.

**YardRat** · 04-11-2013, 08:06 AM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

Nobody

**gebobs** · 04-11-2013, 10:12 AM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

Originally posted by Swiper View Post

Why does everybody want to keep Foligno. He's just not very good.

* His father was a fan favorite.
* He's a Buffalo native.
* 30 career points put him on pace for about 50 over a full season which would have been among the top 5 on the team last year.
* Decent upside.
* He's only 21 for cripesake.

**OpIv37** · 04-11-2013, 10:20 AM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

Originally posted by gebobs View Post

* His father was a fan favorite.
* He's a Buffalo native.
* 30 career points put him on pace for about 50 over a full season which would have been among the top 5 on the team last year.
* Decent upside.
* He's only 21 for cripesake.

All good points, but to me, it just means that the Sabres shouldn't be looking to move him or desperate to get rid of him. However, nothing there is so compelling that it makes him untouchable. I would move him for the right offer.

I think I'm with trap. There are some guys on this team that I definitely wouldn't be shopping, but at this point, no one has done anything to make me think they should be untouchable. 2013-14 is looking like a debacle, but I'm okay with that because it's a necessary evil to move on from this mess. The status quo would have meant being a bubble team fighting for the 8th seed every year, then losing in the first round if we actually make it.

**gebobs** · 04-11-2013, 10:24 AM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post

All good points, but to me, it just means that the Sabres shouldn't be looking to move him or desperate to get rid of him. However, nothing there is so compelling that it makes him untouchable. I would move him for the right offer.

No one said anything about untouchable, just why they would want to keep him. Obviously, for the right offer, no one is untouchable. Not even Wayne Gretzky was untouchable.

I think I'm with trap. There are some guys on this team that I definitely wouldn't be shopping, but at this point, no one has done anything to make me think they should be untouchable. 2013-14 is looking like a debacle, but I'm okay with that because it's a necessary evil to move on from this mess. The status quo would have meant being a bubble team fighting for the 8th seed every year, then losing in the first round if we actually make it.

Concur.

**SkateZilla** · 04-11-2013, 10:50 AM

Re: Who should be safe after this year?

Coho, Should be re-signed, HUGE Future, and has gotten better since coming here (believe it or not).
Ott, If he's not on our team, we hate him, on our team he's friggen awesome.
Adam, Hopefully Rolston can salvage him, Another Decent Center behind CoHo.

Vanek, Aging, Injuries Piling up, Perhaps Moved to 2nd Line, Late Game and PP Situations
Foligno, 2nd Line Guy, Maybe play him with Vanek for a bit?
Leino, His NHL Days are over.
Scott, TBH I havent seen him Much, Maybe cut him loose to save the .01% of Capspace he takes.
Ennis, Fast and Good hands.
Gerbe, Fast... Other than that, he should be in Rochester.
Porter, Havent Seen enough of him, or Flynn.
Flynn, Same as Above.
Stafford, I really wish we could have sent him away, he's been a contract year player that's it.
McCormick, should never see the First Niagara Center Ice again.
Kaleta, Should be used less, Less is more for him, ice time and salary wise.
Hecht, Getting old, slow, and floats, let him retire and join Teppo, Grier, Drury, and the rest of the Retired Buffalo Club.

Myers, Hopefully he works on some stuff in off season and comes back a new player.
Sekera, At times he's good, and then at times he lets players stand in front without a challenge.
Weber, Was our Best Dman for most of the season when he started getting minutes.
Sulzer, was good when acquired, and steady before being injured.
Ehrhoff, Overpaid, maybe with a re-vamped PP he'd be alot better.
Pysyk, Decent Surprise
Pardy, Same as Above.

Miller, Getting up there in Age, Not wanting to go through another Re-Build.
Enroth, Perhaps Time to give him some more starts incase Miller goes elsewhere.

So, Who should Stay, Well, it'll be easier saying who should go..

Hecht, Scott, Stafford, and Leino
If we can get decent return for Miller, him too.

What we need:?
A New GM
A Top Teir Center (nothing Against Coho, but he's still young)
Some Coaching (not saying Rolston isnt doing a decent job)
A Special teams Coach (FOR PP AND PK, FOR CRIPES SAKE!)
Prospects, and Possible Surprise Players to make training camp interesting.

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