bill polian

[Bert102176]

Says landry jones is his best qb of this draft, he does know QB's he had payton manning, jim Kelly, frank reich

[BidsJr]

Re: bill polian

Boy am I glad he didn't come back to GM the Bills. He has lost his mind.

[djjimkelly]

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in fact he just said landry jones 1st nassib 2nd and geno 3rd all late first early 2nd grades

[Night Train]

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Jones can't handle pressure at all. Polian is wrong.

[swiper]

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Polian is clearly being paid off by Landry's agent.

[Bert102176]

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I still want Manuel or Wilson

[Beebe's Kid]

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It is funny to see the reaction to Pollian when people didn't hear what they wanted to hear. His word is usually as good as gold here, and there is a thread made nearly every time he utters a word.

It may be worth considering. I mean, the guy did draft Frank Reich.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: bill polian

Says landry jones is his best qb of this draft, he does know QB's he had payton manning, jim Kelly, frank reich

Even a blind man could have picked Manning and Kelly.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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Even a blind man could have picked Manning and Kelly.

Kelly was the third QB off the board, our 2nd pick in the draft, and didn't play for us for years. Don't pretend that was a slam dunk pick.

[k-oneputt]

Re: bill polian

He also took Collins in Carolina who was a good NFL qb.

At the time Manning or Leaf was a big debate.

And Kelly was coming off a serious shoulder injury when picked.

I'd say he knows what he's talking about with qb's.

[Albany,n.y.]

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Polian wasn't with the Bills in 1983 when Kelly was picked.
Polian wasn't GM when Reich was picked.
Leaf acted like a fool (what a surprise) & didn't want to have an interview with Indy at the combine. Manning acted, well, like Peyton Manning-for Indy the choice was easy-the only people who favored Leaf over Manning never met Leaf.
He picked Collins even though Collins was an alcoholic, which led to Collins' release in Carolina.

Polian was a great GM for the Bills & did a good job elsewhere, but his QB knowledge can't be based on the QBs he's had because he had little or nothing to do with drafting most of them. He's also the guy who brought in Curtis Painter as his Frank Reich in Indy.

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Re: bill polian

It is funny to see the reaction to Pollian when people didn't hear what they wanted to hear. His word is usually as good as gold here, and there is a thread made nearly every time he utters a word.

It may be worth considering. I mean, the guy did draft Frank Reich.

Not to me. Not at all. He gets credit for drafting Manning - but anyone would have done that. He systematically failed to build the rest of that team. He is over-hyped and over-rated. I never put anything into what that guy says.

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Polian wasn't with the Bills in 1983 when Kelly was picked.
Polian wasn't GM when Reich was picked.
Leaf acted like a fool (what a surprise) & didn't want to have an interview with Indy at the combine. Manning acted, well, like Peyton Manning-for Indy the choice was easy-the only people who favored Leaf over Manning never met Leaf.
He picked Collins even though Collins was an alcoholic, which led to Collins' release in Carolina.

Polian was a great GM for the Bills & did a good job elsewhere, but his QB knowledge can't be based on the QBs he's had because he had little or nothing to do with drafting most of them. He's also the guy who brought in Curtis Painter as his Frank Reich in Indy.

Brought in Painter and stuck with him.

[k-oneputt]

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He got Kelly out of the USFL when the rest of the organization before and since does/did nothing.

That Collins guy led basically an expansion team to the play-offs and played a long time in the league. That isn't done by accident.

And no the Leaf-Manning choice wasn't "easy". There were plenty of "draft experts" ringing Leafs bell.

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He got Kelly out of the USFL when the rest of the organization before and since does/did nothing.

That Collins guy led basically an expansion team to the play-offs and played a long time in the league. That isn't done by accident.

And no the Leaf-Manning choice wasn't "easy". There were plenty of "draft experts" ringing Leafs bell.

Keep telling yourself that. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. Manning was the clear #1 in that draft.

Poilan is an over-hyped, over-rated jackass.

[cookie G]

Re: bill polian

Polian wasn't with the Bills in 1983 when Kelly was picked.
Polian wasn't GM when Reich was picked.
Leaf acted like a fool (what a surprise) & didn't want to have an interview with Indy at the combine. Manning acted, well, like Peyton Manning-for Indy the choice was easy-the only people who favored Leaf over Manning never met Leaf.
He picked Collins even though Collins was an alcoholic, which led to Collins' release in Carolina.

Polian was a great GM for the Bills & did a good job elsewhere, but his QB knowledge can't be based on the QBs he's had because he had little or nothing to do with drafting most of them. He's also the guy who brought in Curtis Painter as his Frank Reich in Indy.

nope. 3/4 of the GM's at the time would have taken Leaf.

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/newsday/access/28036931.html?dids=28036931:28036931&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Mar+29%2C+1998&author=Bob+Glauber&pub=Newsday+(Combined+editions)&desc=NFL+%2F+Leaf+Is+Big+Favorite&pqatl=google

The overwhelming consensus: Manning may have the more recognizable name, but Leaf clearly is the preferred quarterback among league executives. Fourteen of the 20 polled said they would draft Leaf over Manning, citing the Washington State quarterback's stronger arm, better mobility and more promising long-term prospect as a franchise-caliber player.
"I'd take Ryan Leaf," Buffalo Bills general manager John Butler said. "I like the big, physical aspects about him. He's got good mobility, and there's something about him, kind of tough to say just what, just something that you like in a quarterback. They're both talented players, but I give the edge to Leaf."
Giants coach Jim Fassel, a former college quarterback, prefers Manning, largely because the Tennessee quarterback and son of former New Orleans Saints quarterback Archie Manning is a more polished player at this point.

A good article about how he went through his selection:

Although he favored Tennessee's Manning over Washington State's Leaf, Polian had trouble putting this baby to bed. He had watched tape of each of Manning's 1,505 passes for the Vols as well as Leaf's 880 for the Cougars. Then twice more he watched every pass that Manning and Leaf threw during the 1997 season, charting on separate legal pads each player's success or failure in making tough throws, long throws, throws on the move. He asked new Colts coach Jim Mora to look twice at every pass that Leaf and Manning threw in college. Quarterbacks coach Bruce Arians viewed every pass four times; other staffers watched three times each.

Polian paid quarterback guru Bill Walsh $5,000 to analyze tape of both quarterbacks. He grilled former NFL quarterback Phil Simms and Vanderbilt coach Woody Widenhofer, both of whom had studied Leaf and Manning. Polian was so meticulous in putting the two players through separate workouts in early April that he even noted how accurately each of them could throw a long pass without striding (Leaf 60 yards, Manning 58, by the way). All told, Polian had spent about 14 hours a day over a 28-day span studying Leaf and Manning. "Did we overanalyze?" he says. "Absolutely."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1013553/1/index.htm

I'm pretty sure Bill Walsh didn't recommend either, he recommended a 3rd QB.