when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

[NOT THE DUDE...]

so we keep picking in the top 10 for almost 15 years...

we dont have a qb

there are solid qbs to choose from

so if not now, when the hell are we supposed to?

we wont get the top pick, so an elway/luck situation will never happen.

and if you miss, dont you still have to take a qb again?

SO again, if not now, when the hell are we supposed to?

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

people that dont agree with this, ask yourself this...

is it realistically possible to get a big time qb if you never pick one high in the 1st?

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

Just because we need a QB doesn't mean there's automatically a franchise QB worthy of the pick.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

Just because we need a QB doesn't mean there's automatically a franchise QB worthy of the pick.

there is never an automatic franchise qb, just guys that are rated super high like luck or rg3, and then guys rated lower but solid qbs who could be a top 10 qb or late 1st qb... but that value is relative to need...

ie, matt ryan, jay cutler, drew brees, andy dalton, kaepernick, wilson, etc etc etc... many of those qbs are in that area, so why not take one. the argument of, well, hes not a " franchise qb" and lets wait till next year or the 2nd are not working man

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

people keep saying these qbs are not worthy, why? i mean, form a real substance standpoint, what is so different about matt barkley and andy dalton or matt ryan? or even matt stafford....?

stafford was not the blue chip luck qb, and many many lions fans didnt want him. yet they bit the bullett and took him....

i see this as very similar.

miami paid a huge price for not taking " the sure fire franchise qb matt ryan"

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this is a media line, and in the end, i bet 4 qbs go rd 1...

[Guest]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

VALUE buddy VALUE.

If you can get a piece of dog **** at the 28th pick rather than the 8th pick, you just know that the dog **** will taste better.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

there is never an automatic franchise qb, just guys that are rated super high like luck or rg3, and then guys rated lower but solid qbs who could be a top 10 qb or late 1st qb... but that value is relative to need...

ie, matt ryan, jay cutler, drew brees, andy dalton, kaepernick, wilson, etc etc etc... many of those qbs are in that area, so why not take one. the argument of, well, hes not a " franchise qb" and lets wait till next year or the 2nd are not working man

Of the QBs you just names...Brees, Dalton, Kaepernick, and Wilson weren't 1st round picks.

In the 1999 NFL Draft - Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper and Cade McNown were all taken within the 1st 12 picks. There's just as many busts as there are studs in the 1st round, if not more. It's all about getting value out of your draft picks, that's what the good teams do.

[Guest]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

It's all about getting value out of your draft picks, that's what the good teams do.

I just came.

[swiper]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

so we keep picking in the top 10 for almost 15 years...

we dont have a qb

there are solid qbs to choose from

so if not now, when the hell are we supposed to?

we wont get the top pick, so an elway/luck situation will never happen.

and if you miss, dont you still have to take a qb again?

No there aren't. Worst QB draft in years. There have been multiple drafts in the past where no QB is taken in round 1. This might be one. Or, perhaps, you want a Tony Eason?

You don't just take a bad QB for the sake of taking any QB.

[BillsFever21]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

If they take a QB at #8 I won't be thrilled but I won't be pissed either. If they think he can be a franchise QB then I can live with it. If they had a chance to trade down a little bit and pick up an extra pick in the process and still get one of them then I would be pissed. Unfortunately we wouldn't know what kind of calls or offers was going on in the war room.

I'm not sold on Geno Smith but he is the consensus top rated QB in the draft. If he is still available at #8 and/or there isn't any other QB's off the board and they have first dibs they have to take one. It would be worse to pass on one and see them become a star then draft one and see him become a bust while you're still looking for a QB. Especially if you didn't get a good one in the second round.

With the Jets trading Revis I see them almost surely taking a QB now with the one of them picks in the draft. After the Top 10 there isn't really any teams that need a QB the rest of the first round. You could maybe get a surprise team like the Texans or MAYBE even the Chargers if the new coach isn't sold on him for the long-term but that would be it unless some other teams in the early second round trades up into the first round.

My guess is there will be two QB's taken in the first round with maybe three at the very most. After that you will probably see one or two of them taking in the second round. If we could trade down and pick up an extra pick and still get a QB you would be crazy not to. Since we need a QB as bad as we do I won't be pissed if they take one at #8 though. I just don't trust this front office making the right decision. I guess we'll find out in 4 days.

[ServoBillieves]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

It's always 50/50. There will always be sides to every argument and one will eventually get louder 3 years down the road.

As the Bills, the SECOND you make a selection, there will be over 50% of the fans angry about it at the 8th pick.

If you draft a sure fire hit at 8 with a QB, you're golden and look like a genius. If not, you're told we should have waited til later rounds for the talent it was there.
If you wait to draft a QB and he turns out great, you're golden and look like a genius. If not, you're told we should have taken the sure fire hit at 8 overall.

[swiper]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

Of the QBs you just names...Brees, Dalton, Kaepernick, and Wilson weren't 1st round picks.

In the 1999 NFL Draft - Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper and Cade McNown were all taken within the 1st 12 picks. There's just as many busts as there are studs in the 1st round, if not more. It's all about getting value out of your draft picks, that's what the good teams do.

There's more busts. Again.... Tony Eason was supposed to be can't miss. Like Luck. Much better than any of the garbage in this draft. He became nothing. Ryan Leaf. Akili Smith. DeMarcus Russell. All supposed to be franchise QBs. None of the QBs coming out this year are being heralded like ANY of those busts.

[swiper]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

It's always 50/50. There will always be sides to every argument and one will eventually get louder 3 years down the road.

As the Bills, the SECOND you make a selection, there will be over 50% of the fans angry about it at the 8th pick.

If you draft a sure fire hit at 8 with a QB, you're golden and look like a genius. If not, you're told we should have waited til later rounds for the talent it was there.
If you wait to draft a QB and he turns out great, you're golden and look like a genius. If not, you're told we should have taken the sure fire hit at 8 overall.

IDK. I won't be happy, most likely, if they take a QB at #8. But... I'm expecting it.

I remember when everyone thought the Bills got such a great deal getting Trent Edwards where they did. All the write-ups liked the pick. That was in the beginning. Until he sucked it up.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

Of the QBs you just names...Brees, Dalton, Kaepernick, and Wilson weren't 1st round picks.

In the 1999 NFL Draft - Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper and Cade McNown were all taken within the 1st 12 picks. There's just as many busts as there are studs in the 1st round, if not more. It's all about getting value out of your draft picks, that's what the good teams do.

supply and demand, and just because you take a chance on cade mcnown, and he busts, that doesnt mean you stop taking chances... i dont get this. from a real substantive point of view, i see literally no difference between barkley and matt ryan. and even if you value him less, like a andy dalton, i think given our situation( supply and demand), you have to take him at 8... i mean, why risk it and then end up with nobody...

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Re: when exactly is the right time to pick a qb when you suck for 15 years?

Of the QBs you just names...Brees, Dalton, Kaepernick, and Wilson weren't 1st round picks.

In the 1999 NFL Draft - Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper and Cade McNown were all taken within the 1st 12 picks. There's just as many busts as there are studs in the 1st round, if not more. It's all about getting value out of your draft picks, that's what the good teams do.

but the nfl has changed, and qbs with that grade, like a ponder for example or locker/tannehill, are going higher... which gives more reason to take a qb at 8

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No there aren't. Worst QB draft in years. There have been multiple drafts in the past where no QB is taken in round 1. This might be one. Or, perhaps, you want a Tony Eason?

You don't just take a bad QB for the sake of taking any QB.

why is geno and barkley or even glennon " bad"...lol was flacco bad???