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  • DraftBoy
    Administrator
    • Jul 2002
    • 107452

    NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

    Did this before people seemed to like it, may just do another update tomorrow as I hear more things. One advantage to announcing this is the last draft you're covering people are willing to tell you more. I like it, but on to the rumors:

    -Chiefs will take Luke Joeckel at #1 unless they can't trade Branden Albert then they will take Eric Fisher-LaCanfora
    -Dion Jordan was the assumed pick at #4 for the Eagles but last minute word is it may be Kiki Mingo instead-LaCanfora
    -Three OT's will go in the first three picks-Multiple
    -Geno Smith will not be the first QB off the board-Multiple
    -Fluker to the Cardinals at 7-SBNation
    -Falcons are calling every team in Top 15 to see what the price is to get up and get a CB or pass rusher-Multiple
    -Hopkins to St. Louis in Mid Round 1 is what everybody is assumin-Pauline
    -Austin to the Jets at 9, that one is about as set in stone as you can get if he makes it there-Pauline
    -Tank Carradine (DE-FSU) would be a Top 5 pick if healthy (maybe #1 overall) but even with his shredded knee he's still going Round 1-Pauline
    -Cowboys are high on UNC DT Sylvester Williams-Pauline
    -Dee Milliner is off a few teams draft boards for medical, he's had 5 surgeries so far-Pauline
    -Kent State OT/OG Brian Winters is getting some late 1st love but it may be all smoke-LaCanfora
    -Pats are hot and heavy for Marcus Lattimore on Day 3-Bernstein
    -Tyler Eifert didn't take a single pre-draft visit but he still will probably go Top 15-Multiple

    Musings:
    -If the Bills take Nassib 8 (and every indication is that they will) he and Marrone will have only 1-2 years to show positive growth, Spiller isn't getting younger and RB lives are shortening. If Bills struggle in 2013 and are in a position to take a QB like Bridgewater at the top of 2014 they may do it. Marrone putting all his eggs into the SU basket is a massive risk.
    -We released our final Top 100 yesterday, its a bit different then anybody elses because we didn't update it since before all the all-star, combine, and pro day workouts. The Top 100 is based purely off what we saw. It's been entered into the THR Top 100 Contest which measures accuracy, we expect to finish near the bottom because our board is based off projection and not predicting who goes where. For those interested here is the link: http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/201...final-top-100/
    -In "covering" the last decade or so of drafts this is by far the most in depth and unpredictable draft I've ever seen
    -I'm expecting a ton of trades on Thursday and plenty more on Friday and Saturday
    -The UDFA market is going to be intense, that's where the majority of the value lies because of how deep with talent this class is. You could find 3-4 roster spot players there easily
    -If Dion Jordan falls to 8 he's the Bills pick, QB be damned

    That's all I got for now, Ill update through tomorrow as I hear more.
    COMING SOON...
    Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
    We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!
  • Swiper
    Legendary Zoner
    • Sep 2010
    • 33105

    #2
    Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

    Nassib at #8 is just a depressing thought. When he turns out to be Trent Lospatrick in 3 years, then Marrone will join the likes of Gregg Williams, Mularkey, Jauron, and Gailey. Then you'll all again be calling for a head coach with NFL head coaching experience. And Lovey Smith will be somewhere smiling because he avoided Buffalo.

    Certain years it's fairly easy to project the top 10. Not this year.
    Last edited by swiper; 04-24-2013, 06:05 AM.

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    • stuckincincy
      Buffalo Bills Fan
      • Sep 2003
      • 15084

      #3
      Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

      Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
      -If Dion Jordan falls to 8 he's the Bills pick, QB be damned
      Indeed...
      Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

        Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
        -Austin to the Jets at 9, that one is about as set in stone as you can get if he makes it there-Pauline
        Then I would tend to believe our phone may ring, with a team or 2 wanting to jump ahead of the Jets. Personally, I would never draft an offensive player in the 165-180lb. range, since I see a short career for Austin after one good hit and a long stint on the IR. The Roscoe pick was bad enough but it wasn't in the top 10.

        Nassib at #8 ? The 3 LT's ,the 2 Guards ( Cooper,Warmack) and TE Eifert are miles ahead of this guy in actual talent and if any of them are passed over, I wouldn't be thrilled. If Jordan fell to #8, you run to the podium. Ansah, Jones & Mingo all have huge question marks and may be Maybinesque in makeup.
        Last edited by Night Train; 04-24-2013, 06:14 AM.
        Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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        • malvado78
          Registered User
          • Mar 2006
          • 481

          #5
          Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

          Originally posted by Swiper View Post
          Trent Lospatrick
          LOL

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          • don137
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 7720

            #6
            Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

            If the Rams love Austin and they want to jump over the Jets trading down to #16 and getting an extra second rounder would be nice. I have to feel the Bills could get their franchise QB (Barkley or Nassib) at 16.

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            • Swiper
              Legendary Zoner
              • Sep 2010
              • 33105

              #7
              Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

              I could live with Barkley at #16.

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              • don137
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 7720

                #8
                Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

                BTW, great job pulling all this together Draftboy.

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                • ghz in pittsburgh
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 5861

                  #9
                  Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

                  Drafting Nassib is not dumb if they believe he can be something down the road, like Kapernick. The point is whether they can be SMART in the sense that they get more than Nassib iwth the 8th pick of the draft. That's a skill. With Nix, I'm more or less comfortable in talent evaluation; I just don't know if he has the GM skill to make the most from the resources he is given. Tom Donahoe is the last GM the Bills had in terms of having that skill.

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                  • Swiper
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 33105

                    #10
                    Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

                    Tom Donahoe? The guy that traded away a first to move up to get JP Losman? You like his GM skills?

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                    • THRILLHO
                      This is great, and all I've done is enter my name!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1574

                      #11
                      Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

                      Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                      Trent Lospatrick
                      Awesome. I am going to steal this.
                      True fans want wins, not draft picks.

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                      • The King
                        Without me it's just Awe so
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 42380

                        #12
                        Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

                        I agree that Nassib makes things too tough on Marrone I have been saying this for a month.
                        I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                        "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                        You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                        It was all
                        true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                        He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                        mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                        • T-Long
                          Circling the Wagons since 1982.
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 3848

                          #13
                          Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

                          This was great stuff DB, thanks for this.

                          As far as Nassib at 8, I would be pretty surprised even though it does make a lot of sense for him to be able to start from Day 1. I would much rather have Barkley or EJ Manuel, but I honestly couldn't blame the Bills if they went Nassib. Look at Tannehill in Miami last year, it seemed to work out pretty well for him in year 1.

                          I cannot wait for this weekend.

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                          • clumping platelets

                            #14
                            Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

                            Just say no to QB at #8

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                            • DraftBoy
                              Administrator
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 107452

                              #15
                              Re: NFL Draft Musings/Rumors v2.0

                              Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
                              Drafting Nassib is not dumb if they believe he can be something down the road, like Kapernick. The point is whether they can be SMART in the sense that they get more than Nassib iwth the 8th pick of the draft. That's a skill. With Nix, I'm more or less comfortable in talent evaluation; I just don't know if he has the GM skill to make the most from the resources he is given. Tom Donahoe is the last GM the Bills had in terms of having that skill.
                              Believing in him is one thing, risking your job by putting all your eggs into one basket is an entirely different. There is a reason very few college coaches who go pro take their QB with them.
                              COMING SOON...
                              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                              We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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