Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

    Here's some proof:

    The Miami Dolphins and the Oakland Raiders pulled off a potential win-win trade Thursday night. But the Dolphins sure feel like they won more by snagging defensive end Dion Jordan.


    Basically Miami only paid half price for the move up for Jordan.

  • Mike13
    Registered User
    • Aug 2005
    • 10535

    #2
    Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

    Its not our fault the Raiders didnt ask for more.

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    • Ingtar33
      Dances With Buffaloes
      • Sep 2002
      • 15469

      #3
      Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

      it's not outdated, it's the reality of a "market"... when you're selling and no one is buying, you're gonna be forced to sell lower than you want to.
      My wife told me that if I had a dollar for every girl who found me unattractive, girls would find me VERY attractive.

      MY WIFE SAID THAT!!!

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      • IlluminatusUIUC
        Registered User
        • Sep 2012
        • 8966

        #4
        Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

        Originally posted by Ingtar33 View Post
        it's not outdated, it's the reality of a "market"... when you're selling and no one is buying, you're gonna be forced to sell lower than you want to.
        That's why an unchanging chart with fixed values for each pick is meaningless.


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        • BLeonard
          BoB Sabermetrician
          • Jan 2003
          • 4625

          #5
          Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

          A: The Value Chart is little more than a guideline. A pick is only as valuable as another team is willing to pay for it. That goes for any pick in any round.

          B: Pretty sure the chart was made before the new CBA, which really cut back on how much money is paid to draft picks, especially in the first round.

          So, yeah, the chart probably is outdated, but again, the pick is only worth what another team is willing to pay for it, regardless of what the chart says it is worth.

          -Bill

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          • jills
            Registered User
            • Oct 2009
            • 357

            #6
            Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

            The Raiders were desperate, they got awful value.

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            • MitchMurrayDowntown
              Skoobasaurus-Rex
              • Oct 2011
              • 22284

              #7
              Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

              The rest of the trades were very close to the old chart's values, as a matter of fact the Bills trade was almost even with the Bills getting a +8 win.

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              • cookie G
                Registered User
                • Mar 2003
                • 7561

                #8
                Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

                It was followed just about to a tee in the Bills' trade

                They gave up:

                8-1400
                71- 235

                Total 1635

                They received

                16- 1000
                46- 440
                78- 200
                222- 2.6

                Total 1642.6

                Oakland's given away so many 1sts, they aren't used to drafting much.

                I have no idea what Minny was thinking, but that's their problem.

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                • MitchMurrayDowntown
                  Skoobasaurus-Rex
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 22284

                  #9
                  Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

                  The other trades were all pretty close in value, which / this thread.

                  Originally posted by cookie G View Post
                  It was followed just about to a tee in the Bills' trade

                  They gave up:

                  8-1400
                  71- 235

                  Total 1635

                  They received

                  16- 1000
                  46- 440
                  78- 200
                  222- 2.6

                  Total 1642.6

                  Oakland's given away so many 1sts, they aren't used to drafting much.

                  I have no idea what Minny was thinking, but that's their problem.

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                  • kingJofNYC
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5960

                    #10
                    Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

                    Read this. Teams are still using it, and it's causing them to give up too much.

                    http://www.footballperspective.com/analyzing-the-trades-in-day-1-of-the-2013-draft/

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                    • THRILLHO
                      This is great, and all I've done is enter my name!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1574

                      #11
                      Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

                      It's more about what is available. The Raiders knew they wanted Hayden, they also knew there was no point in drafting him at #3. Miami was their best offer so they took it. What point would it be to just draft Hayden at 3 because no one offered "fair value."
                      True fans want wins, not draft picks.

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                      • BleedinGreenNC
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 1679

                        #12
                        Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

                        Originally posted by Ingtar33 View Post
                        it's not outdated, it's the reality of a "market"... when you're selling and no one is buying, you're gonna be forced to sell lower than you want to.
                        The Pats made out like bandits!

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                        • psubills62
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 11295

                          #13
                          Re: Like DB says, the draft trade value chart is outdated...

                          Outdated might not be the best term (although it is quite old). Inaccurate in terms of actual value might be a better term.
                          "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
                          - Nicholas Cummings

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