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  • swiper
    Legendary Zoner
    • Sep 2010
    • 33105

    QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

    Originally posted by BB.com
    A respectable Tuel-box for Bills undrafted QB

    Posted Apr 30, 2013

    Chris Brown

    QB Jeff Tuel's career seemed to be on the fast track at Washington State, but got derailed by a rash of injuries that may have hidden his true potential.


    In a draft where the quarterback class had one of the more disappointing showings, there were signal callers after the draft was over that were in demand. Arizona’s Matt Scott, Tennessee’s Tyler Bray and a Washington State quarterback that not only agreed to terms with the Bills as a rookie free agent Monday, but had a pre-draft visit with the team in early April.

    Jeff Tuel had a star-crossed career at Washington State. After becoming just the second quarterback in school history to start at least five games as a freshman, Drew Bledsoe was the other, it looked like his career would be a prolific one for the Cougars. However, a dislocated knee cap ended his freshman season prematurely.

    His sophomore season proved to be his best as he completed 60 percent of his passes for 2,780 yards with 18 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. The following season the wheels came off when a broken collar bone forced him to miss four games. Upon returning he re-injured the collar bone and additionally sustained a leg injury. His junior season was over with just 276 passing yards and a touchdown to show for it.
    A change in coaching staffs brought in a new offensive system and an open competition for the starting job.

    “He won the starting job initially and then he tweaked a knee early in the season,” said Bills scout Brad Forsyth. “They had a young guy come in and he played pretty well so Tuel kind of lost his spot. He played in spots the rest of the year, but I think he’s a kid that really does have a legitimate shot. He needs some time, development and experience, but he has all the physical tools you’re looking for and he’s a smart kid as well.”

    Forsyth, who was a college quarterback himself, sees upside in Tuel knowing his time on the field has been limited by injury.

    “I’m real excited about him as a free agent,” said Forsyth. “Really good size, really strong arm. You really notice that when you get on the practice field and at the two All-Star games that I went to watch him. He just stands out as a pure thrower. He really spins it well and can make all the throws.”

    He describes Tuel as deceptively quick and can buy time to make plays. Tuel has been knocked some for his accuracy, but he finished as the school’s all-time leader in the completion percentage (64.1%). Forsyth has an idea as to where the concerns originated.

    “This year was kind of a different story because in that offense you throw to areas or spots,” said Forsyth. “It’s a little bit different because in talking to Jeff he felt he mentally struggled a little bit in it. Not so much with what he was doing, but because everyone has to be on the same page he wasn’t sure guys were going to the spots where he’s supposed to throw to and he held onto the ball a lot and took a lot more sacks than he should have.

    “It’s just not feeling comfortable. He didn’t want to throw a pick and have it go the other way so he was waiting and waiting to make sure his guy was making the right break. In that offense you just have to trust each other.”

    Tuel (6’3’ 218) despite great arm strength does show a touch on the ball as well. He routinely dropped the ball over defenders into the waiting arms of one of his receiving targets.

    “I don’t have any problems with his accuracy,” said Forsyth. “When you see this guy in 7-on-7s, at the all-star games and even in the games, I think the first game he went 6-of-8 and in the NFLPA game he went 8-for-8. He is accurate. He’s got sneaky athletic ability.”

    With veterans Tarvaris Jackson and Kevin Kolb on the roster along with prized draft choice EJ Manuel it will certainly be an uphill climb for Tuel, but there’s one Bills scout eager to see how he progresses through the offeseason and in training camp.

    “I just like this kid’s physical upside,” Forsyth said. “He’s got a lot of the thing you want. It’s just a matter of putting it all together and doing it on a consistent basis.”
  • Night Train
    Retired - On Several Levels
    • Jul 2005
    • 33117

    #2
    Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

    He played on such a bad team for most of his time in college but scouting reports see talent. Would be smart to put him on the inactive squad because you don't know if either Kolb or Jackson will be here after this year.
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    • k-oneputt
      Registered User
      • Jun 2009
      • 7131

      #3
      Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

      One won't be here for this year. Whomever loses the qb battle between Kolb and Jackson will be gone come Sept. The winner stays with Manuel and tuel is going to be the #3.

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      • Don't Panic
        All-Pro Zoner
        • Dec 2005
        • 4227

        #4
        Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

        Hmm... PAC 12 QB, got hurt a lot, not surrounded by much talent, loads of potential... Trent Edwards? At least he was UDFA instead of 3rd round.

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        • MitchMurrayDowntown
          Skoobasaurus-Rex
          • Oct 2011
          • 22284

          #5
          Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

          Camp fodder.

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          • RedEyE
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 24661

            #6
            Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

            I think Tuel makes more sense as a 2nd or 3rd option. And I also think it will come down to Kolb and Jackson battling it out for a roster spot. But if Tuel doesn't show any quick signs of maturity he could easily end up on the practice squad.

            The Bills did right with Kolb's contract. It's obviously not your typical starter's contract. The pay and the structure is suitable for a vet back-up. Same for TJ who's also a bit longer in the tooth.

            I think at season start the QB ranks will be as follows:

            QB1: EJ Manuel
            2: Kolb
            3: Tuel

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            • k-oneputt
              Registered User
              • Jun 2009
              • 7131

              #7
              Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

              You have it fiqured out RedEye.

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              • jamze132
                Don’t hate…
                • Jun 2003
                • 29390

                #8
                Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

                Either Kolb or Jackson are toast after pre-season.

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                • Don't Panic
                  All-Pro Zoner
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 4227

                  #9
                  Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

                  Originally posted by jamze132 View Post
                  Either Kolb or Jackson are toast after pre-season.
                  ...and the other has a good chance to be the opening day starter.

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                  • feldspar
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 13620

                    #10
                    Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

                    Dunno about his name...he's a tool...I can see it already. Lossman was doomed because of his name, too...that, and he was kinda bad at playing QB.

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                    • Bill Cody
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 11911

                      #11
                      Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

                      Originally posted by Night Train View Post
                      He played on such a bad team for most of his time in college but scouting reports see talent.
                      This guy has all the tuels

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                      • Scumbag College
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 4949

                        #12
                        Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

                        We've had plenty of Tuels playing QB the past decade or so.
                        Remember Kevin Everett in your thoughts.

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                        • better days
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 22028

                          #13
                          Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

                          The best Tuel can hope for is to be signed to the practice squad after TC.

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                          • Dr. Lecter
                            Zero for Zero!
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 67944

                            #14
                            Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

                            Jackson's salary is not prohibitive to him staying here as a back-up or 3rd string guy.
                            Originally posted by mysticsoto
                            Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                            • trapezeus
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 19525

                              #15
                              Re: QB Jeff Tuel - UDFA

                              only way i part with jax or kolb is if ej's camp shows that he could step in week2 or 3 because of starter injury and play well.

                              If he doesn't have that kind of camp, it's tuel who gets tossed and you keep the two vets because the cost isn't bad and you know kolb is going down at some point.

                              to be honest, the best thing for hte bills would be tjax winning the competition because then he'll play through whatever, and as bad as he performs, EJ can sit as number 2 and kolb can be tossed to curb. This getes the bills a high draft pick the following year and it lets EJ take the back up reps vs 3rd stringer reps. So he has a full year of development to step in on year 2.

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