What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

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  • blackonyx89
    HI I AM A FREAKING LIONS FAN
    • Mar 2005
    • 5511

    What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

    There has really been a lot of talk about the Bills no huddle speed type offense and the acquistions of young WRs the Bills pick up in the draft to help out Stevie J. and of course the
    Bill's future QB EJ Manuel. My concern is the Defense, not really a lot of talk about that and I hope that the Bills D will be a vastly improve one this year. Doesn't mean a hill of beans
    if you have a great offense and have a swiss cheese defense. Just wanna know what you think about this dilemma?
    Let's Go Bills, make it happen!!!
  • Gibby
    Registered User
    • Jun 2006
    • 18211

    #2
    Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

    Originally posted by blackonyx89 View Post
    There has really been a lot of talk about the Bills no huddle speed type offense and the acquistions of young WRs the Bills pick up in the draft to help out Stevie J. and of course the
    Bill's future QB EJ Manuel. My concern is the Defense, not really a lot of talk about that and I hope that the Bills D will be a vastly improve one this year. Doesn't mean a hill of beans
    if you have a great offense and have a swiss cheese defense. Just wanna know what you think about this dilemma?
    I actually am one of the few who don't think that talent --or lack thereof -- was as big a problem last year as scheming and coaching. True, coasty is correct in that we way overpaid for Williams but in a good defensive scheme he probably is in more of a position to make the occassional play. Same for Dareus and Kyle. Is lack of overall talent a concern? Absolutely, but so is misuse of talent. When everyone in the world knows exactly what your D is going to do after watching no more than four games worth of film then unless you have OCs who are industrial strength stupid its going to be a long afternoon for your D.

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    • Don't Panic
      All-Pro Zoner
      • Dec 2005
      • 4227

      #3
      Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

      Yeah... I see a big jump in performance simply by changing coordinators. Pettine will get the most of the D or he'll put guys in there who are willing to play at a level he demands. I still see some weaknesses but all in all it should be a vastly improved unit overall.

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      • Novacane
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 42352

        #4
        Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

        They were so bad it will be hard not to improve.

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        • JoeMama
          Emotion Sickness
          • Oct 2002
          • 18183

          #5
          Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

          We need a legit MLB.

          That's the glue that holds it all together.

          But I do agree scheme was the death knell for our D in 2012. I feel like even I could have out-coached Wanny, despite knowing next to nothing about Xs and Os. I mean, how do you screw up a D with guys like Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus, Mario Williams, Jairus Byrd, and Stephon Gilmore on the roster?

          Come on!

          I'm not saying it's an A list, but it's serviceable.

          And we can't be possibly worse than last year.

          I'm willing to give this offseason an A+ solely for shipping Kelvin Sheppard's sorry ass to NOT BUFFALO.

          The future is bright. Now.
          Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.

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          • TigerJ
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 22575

            #6
            Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

            All we really know is that the defense will be different: different base alignment, different defensive philosophy, a fair number of different players. It's so different, in fact, that there's really no comparisons that can be made. They've started from scratch and are developing a brand new defense. How good it will be depends on the talent leve, on Mike Pettine's ability to install things quickly and get the defensive players on board, and getting them to know it well enough that they are comfortable and don't have to think about what to do next.

            We should learn fairly early whether or not the transition is going to be smooth. If they don't get it quickly, look for Tom Brady to have a big day against the Bills.
            I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

            I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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            • Spiderweb
              ....formerly OhBF
              • Sep 2003
              • 787

              #7
              Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

              Originally posted by Novacane View Post
              They were so bad it will be hard not to improve.
              I have been saying the same thing for the past 3-4 years, but the Bills just continued to get worse none the less. Here's to finally breaking that trend.
              Spiderweb

              Need a Hero? Try looking within your
              own family. You might be surprised.

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              • Swiper
                Legendary Zoner
                • Sep 2010
                • 33105

                #8
                Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

                Originally posted by MST3KBillsfan View Post
                I actually am one of the few who don't think that talent --or lack thereof -- was as big a problem last year as scheming and coaching. True, coasty is correct in that we way overpaid for Williams but in a good defensive scheme he probably is in more of a position to make the occassional play. Same for Dareus and Kyle. Is lack of overall talent a concern? Absolutely, but so is misuse of talent. When everyone in the world knows exactly what your D is going to do after watching no more than four games worth of film then unless you have OCs who are industrial strength stupid its going to be a long afternoon for your D.
                How many Wiliams's do they have on the team exactly?

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                • IlluminatusUIUC
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 8966

                  #9
                  Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

                  Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                  How many Wiliams's do they have on the team exactly?
                  We could be starting 4, just on D.

                  Mario, Aaron, Kyle, and Duke


                  Billszone 2013 Prediction Contest winner!

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                  • Gibby
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 18211

                    #10
                    Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

                    Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                    How many Wiliams's do they have on the team exactly?
                    You are a Bills Fan right? Well you should be happy to know that Russ Brandon takes this being the Buffalo Bills literally as in his mind if Bill is short for William then Bills is short for Williams. Its his PR dream to have a roster of 53 guys named Williams

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                    • Extremebillsfan247
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 3142

                      #11
                      Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

                      Originally posted by blackonyx89 View Post
                      There has really been a lot of talk about the Bills no huddle speed type offense and the acquistions of young WRs the Bills pick up in the draft to help out Stevie J. and of course the
                      Bill's future QB EJ Manuel. My concern is the Defense, not really a lot of talk about that and I hope that the Bills D will be a vastly improve one this year. Doesn't mean a hill of beans
                      if you have a great offense and have a swiss cheese defense. Just wanna know what you think about this dilemma?
                      It will depend on a few things like how long it will take for the players to adapt to Pettine's defensive system. Does he have the right players? this will be a crucial question that can only be answered once games are live. More important, will his scheme work? We have no idea whether that Jets defense was run by him, or Rex Ryan who may have used him in a similar fashion to the way Gailey used Modkins. We will find the answer to that soon enough.

                      We know how bad this defense has been over the past 2 years. I think it has potential to be better, but only time will tell is the only true answer here in my opinion. There are so many questions to be asked yet as far as our defense is concerned. Long story short, I have no idea. lol

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                      • The Jokeman
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 9995

                        #12
                        Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

                        Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                        We could be starting 4, just on D.

                        Mario, Aaron, Kyle, and Duke
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKA9Zi5-_Y Whoops wrong sport

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                        • Homegrown
                          Havin' a ball ... rollin' to the bottom
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 2774

                          #13
                          Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

                          Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                          We could be starting 4, just on D.

                          Mario, Aaron, Kyle, and Duke
                          Band of Brothers?

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                          • NOT THE DUDE...
                            Hall of Fame Zoner
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 8826

                            #14
                            Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

                            having pettine and Mario/anderon/hughes along with dareus/kyle/Carrington should cause major major problems. at least i hope so

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                            • Swiper
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 33105

                              #15
                              Re: What about the Bills Defense? Will they be better in 2013?

                              I think the players haven't changed too much on defense. If there is improvement it will be because Pettine is in and Wannstedt is out.

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