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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
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    Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green



    This is the sort of signing that makes a team stronger. No, these aren't top notch guys. But, either adds valuable depth.
    Last edited by X-Era; 06-04-2013, 02:58 PM.

  • K-Gun
    Deal with it
    • Jul 2003
    • 918

    #2
    OG's visit OBD

    Does anyone else think Urbik can be a solid starting LG? And who knows anything about Tyronne Green?



    The Bills have said more than once that their free agent shopping season will go all the way up to training camp. That was evident Tuesday when Buffalo played host to a pair of free agent offensive linemen.

    San Diego free agent guard Tyronne Green and Pittsburgh free agent center/guard Doug Legursky both toured the facilities at One Bills Drive and met members of the offensive coaching staff Tuesday.

    Green, 27, spent the first four seasons of his career with the Chargers after San Diego made him a fourth-round draft choice in 2009. He earned a starting job in 2012 at guard for San Diego making 13 starts last season. He’s made all 28 of his career starts in his last three seasons.

    An unrestricted free agent this offseason, Green signed on May 13th with the New England Patriots, but was released just four days ago (May 31st).
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    • The Jokeman
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      • Dec 2003
      • 9995

      #3
      Re: OG's visit OBD

      Originally posted by K-Gun View Post
      Does anyone else think Urbik can be a solid starting LG? And who knows anything about Tyronne Green?



      The Bills have said more than once that their free agent shopping season will go all the way up to training camp. That was evident Tuesday when Buffalo played host to a pair of free agent offensive linemen.

      San Diego free agent guard Tyronne Green and Pittsburgh free agent center/guard Doug Legursky both toured the facilities at One Bills Drive and met members of the offensive coaching staff Tuesday.

      Green, 27, spent the first four seasons of his career with the Chargers after San Diego made him a fourth-round draft choice in 2009. He earned a starting job in 2012 at guard for San Diego making 13 starts last season. He’s made all 28 of his career starts in his last three seasons.

      An unrestricted free agent this offseason, Green signed on May 13th with the New England Patriots, but was released just four days ago (May 31st).
      Why would the Bills shift Urbik to LG when he's been manning RG and signed to a long term contract to do so? I don't mind adding Legursky and/or Green for depth but there are issue(s) with Green that scare me as the Chargers signed Chad Rinehart to replace Green and at a higher salary yet it could be debated that former Bills O-line coach liked him. Yet what scares me more is that note of the Patriots signing him and then cutting him less than three weeks later.

      Here's a blurb from http://www.chargers.com/team/roster/...-8703c0698580# that is interesting:

      During his first three seasons, Green has seen time at both right and left guard, while also playing a role on special teams. During training camp and offseason practices, Green has also taken reps at center and tackle. The jockeying of positions though is something Green is used to. He is a converted defensive tackle who played both center and guard at Auburn.
      And a predraft write up for anyone that cares: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...torical/518349
      Last edited by The Jokeman; 06-04-2013, 06:53 PM.

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      • NOT THE DUDE...
        Hall of Fame Zoner
        • Jan 2010
        • 8826

        #4
        Re: Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green

        I think this offers more options, and also helps give cheap insurance next year if wood leaves....

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        • OpIv37
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          • Sep 2002
          • 101343

          #5
          Re: Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green

          I have a bad feeling that we we looking at Legursky as a starter since we still haven't replaced Levitre or Rhinehardt. And that's why Pitt wins and we don't: their backup C becomes our starting G.
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          • better days
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            • Jan 2010
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            Re: Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green

            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
            I have a bad feeling that we we looking at Legursky as a starter since we still haven't replaced Levitre or Rhinehardt. And that's why Pitt wins and we don't: their backup C becomes our starting G.
            IF the Bills do sign him, He will have to EARN a starters job. It is now June, what do you have to say aboout the WR position you were ranting about in April as being deficient with the loss of Nelson & Jones?

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            • K-Gun
              Deal with it
              • Jul 2003
              • 918

              #7
              Re: OG's visit OBD

              Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
              Why would the Bills shift Urbik to LG when he's been manning RG and signed to a long term contract to do so?
              Because Urbik is our best OG, and the LG position is a bit more demanding in pass protect often having to double the other team's best pass rusher.
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              [F]or no one chooses to be at war, or provokes war, for the sake of being at war; any one would seem absolutely murderous if he were to make enemies of his friends in order to bring about battle and slaughter...

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              • OpIv37
                Acid Douching Asswipe
                • Sep 2002
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                Re: Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green

                Originally posted by better days View Post
                IF the Bills do sign him, He will have to EARN a starters job. It is now June, what do you have to say aboout the WR position you were ranting about in April as being deficient with the loss of Nelson & Jones?
                Earn it over who?

                And as far as WR, who do we have on the roster that has proven themselves to be better than Nelson or Jones? All we have are a bunch of rookies who haven't proven ****. Remember, James Hardy was supposed to fix our WR problem too.
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                • better days
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  Re: Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green

                  Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                  Earn it over who?

                  And as far as WR, who do we have on the roster that has proven themselves to be better than Nelson or Jones? All we have are a bunch of rookies who haven't proven ****. Remember, James Hardy was supposed to fix our WR problem too.
                  He will have to earn it over other players on an NFL roster. Do you expect whoever starts in place of Nelson & Jones to do worse than they did?

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                  • jamze132
                    Don’t hate…
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 29423

                    #10
                    Re: Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green

                    Lets sign all of the O-lineman we can. Maybe we'll get lucky with one.

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                    • Captain Obvious
                      I can feel your anger.I can feel your hate. Give in to the DARK SIDE! With every neg you become MINE
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 1080

                      #11
                      Re: Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post

                      And as far as WR, who do we have on the roster that has proven themselves to be better than Nelson or Jones?
                      It's incredible you keep forgetting there is a WR on the team in Stevie Johnson who has 3 straight 1000 yard seasons he is a better receiver than David Nelson and Donald Jones

                      Here to point out the obvious....

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                      • NOT THE DUDE...
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                        • Jan 2010
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                        #12
                        Re: Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green

                        since legursky is best at center, and obviously wood is the starter, along with brown being a good guard/backup center. my guess is brown is the front runner as of now, and they need a legit backup center for wood.

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                        • OpIv37
                          Acid Douching Asswipe
                          • Sep 2002
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                          #13
                          Re: Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green

                          Originally posted by better days View Post
                          He will have to earn it over other players on an NFL roster. Do you expect whoever starts in place of Nelson & Jones to do worse than they did?
                          The only G's on our roster are the ones who weren't good enough to play over Levitre and Rhinehardt last year. Just because they're on an NFL roster doesn't mean they're legit competition for the starting role.

                          And I don't know if the new guys we got will do better or worse than Nelson and Jones, but doing worse is a very real possibility. They have no experience and will be in an O that's learning a new system with either a rookie QB or a very mediocre vet throwing them the ball behind an OL that lost both a starter and key depth.
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                          • OpIv37
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                            • Sep 2002
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                            Re: Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green

                            Originally posted by Captain Obvious View Post
                            It's incredible you keep forgetting there is a WR on the team in Stevie Johnson who has 3 straight 1000 yard seasons he is a better receiver than David Nelson and Donald Jones
                            Um, do you watch football?

                            My personal opinions of Stevie aside, offenses use MORE THAN ONE WR AT A TIME. The opposing D will just double Stevie and shut him down and make Graham and the rookies try to beat their other guys one on one. Teams can't succeed with just one good WR.

                            And, for the record, we weren't talking about Stevie because clearly the WR position as a whole hasn't been good enough even with Stevie. We were talking about whether the guys we added were significant replacements for the guys we lost.
                            Last edited by OpIv37; 06-05-2013, 09:00 AM.
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                            • Captain Obvious
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                              • Jul 2005
                              • 1080

                              #15
                              Re: Bills hosting C/G Dave Legursky and G Tyronne Green

                              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                              The opposing D will just double Stevie and shut him down
                              .
                              3 straight seasons 1000 plus yards defenses arent exactly shutting him down

                              Here to point out the obvious....

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