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  • tampabay25690
    Registered User
    • Feb 2004
    • 9670
    #1

    Sabres info

    OK my friends.....

    This is what I have for you as of today!

    Sabres are undecided on Vanek and Miller.
    There was NO chance that Miller was going to be moved at the deadline last season but yea some things have changed.

    Neither guy wants to be moved and that is a fact, or you can listen to the media that is making it sound like they want out!!!
    Absolute opposite.

    Will both or 1 be gone its up in the air but dont be surprised to see both back with the Sabres.

    Why would you move the 2 players that are your stars???
    But what I know is both will be back as of today unless there is a guy they want bad.
    Yes look for Leino to get bought out thats a given...
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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101260
    #2
    Re: Sabres info

    Why would you move two players that are stars? Well, their contracts are up next year and there's a good chance we won't be able to re-sign them and will lose them for nothing.

    Better to get something now.

    I have a hard time believing that neither wants out. Vanek- I could maybe buy that he doesn't want out but I don't know why he'd want to waste his prime on a rebuilding team instead of going to a contender. Miller is on the downside of his career and his next contract will likely be his last, or at least his last as a starter. There are the rumors about his wife, and let's face it- the organization hasn't exactly treated him well. They give huge contracts to guys like Stafford and Leino after he took less money to stay, they overplayed him almost every year of his career, and of course the Lucic incident. Combine that stuff with the fact that he's getting old and we are 2 or 3 years away (at least) from being contenders, and I just don't buy that he still wants to be here.

    Good news on Leino. What a waste.
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    • Night Train
      Retired - On Several Levels
      • Jul 2005
      • 33117
      #3
      Re: Sabres info

      There are no stars on teams consistently missing the playoffs.
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      • tampabay25690
        Registered User
        • Feb 2004
        • 9670
        #4
        Re: Sabres info

        Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
        Why would you move two players that are stars? Well, their contracts are up next year and there's a good chance we won't be able to re-sign them and will lose them for nothing.

        Better to get something now.

        I have a hard time believing that neither wants out. Vanek- I could maybe buy that he doesn't want out but I don't know why he'd want to waste his prime on a rebuilding team instead of going to a contender. Miller is on the downside of his career and his next contract will likely be his last, or at least his last as a starter. There are the rumors about his wife, and let's face it- the organization hasn't exactly treated him well. They give huge contracts to guys like Stafford and Leino after he took less money to stay, they overplayed him almost every year of his career, and of course the Lucic incident. Combine that stuff with the fact that he's getting old and we are 2 or 3 years away (at least) from being contenders, and I just don't buy that he still wants to be here.

        Good news on Leino. What a waste.
        I do agree about some u said...
        Miller has been treated like crap by the organization and he has never asked to be traded out.

        I dont see Vanek leaving if anything Miller....

        I do know for 150%% that Miller was never going to be shipped out then all the rumors were flying from the media....It was funny for me to listen since I was with them in Tampa before the trade deadline.....Tampa was the destinantion if any but was never happening with them coming to our division. Tampa was offering plenty for Ryan.

        Miller is a fav by Terry and the rest of the management so it will take a lot for him to be gone...
        We will see, things change everyday.

        My gut says its 80/20 if he stays or goes, 80% staying.....
        If anything he stays and if the Sabres are bad he is gone mid season.....
        Just my feeling..
        Last edited by tampabay25690; 06-08-2013, 05:00 PM.
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        • MitchMurrayDowntown
          Skoobasaurus-Rex
          • Oct 2011
          • 22284
          #5
          Re: Sabres info

          The Ville is sold, that's a lock. Vanek actually scores some goals but Miller is a complete head case, which is obviously a concern. Maybe there's a sign that we because we can beat Boston regularly, there's hope.

          Tickets should be easier to get this coming season, we rimmed the tank again.

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          • Swiper
            Legendary Zoner
            • Sep 2010
            • 33105
            #6
            Re: Sabres info

            How has Miller been treated like crap by the organization?

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            • tampabay25690
              Registered User
              • Feb 2004
              • 9670
              #7
              Re: Sabres info

              Originally posted by Swiper View Post
              How has Miller been treated like crap by the organization?
              You serious?
              I probably will say more the awful Buffalo media that tries to find anything to write a story on a star..
              Look at the Kaleta vs Miller crap that happened....
              So many examples I don't have the time.
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              • YankeeInRaleigh
                Registered User
                • Aug 2012
                • 1263
                #8
                Re: Sabres info

                We have absolutely got to get rid of miller ASAP imo. We already know we're rebuilding, we won't be competitive for the next few years, it makes zero sense to have a goalie like miller do time in a situation like that. Trade him for some great picks/prospects.
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                • trapezeus
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 19525
                  #9
                  Re: Sabres info

                  what was tampa offering for miller?

                  my concern with miller is that the org doesn't ship him this offseason and does as you say and deals him mid year during a bad year. that's less in return, and the team will be bad.

                  chances are the sabres will suck next year given no talent and minimal heart. Trade miller, and get some players in. let OTT be the captain, hold people accountable without stepping on a veteran like miller's toes, and compete.


                  If they do it the way described above, they will surely get no value for miller during a season the were "trying" to be relevant.

                  the fanbase will be more sympathetic and supportive of new blood trying than old blood still falling short.

                  that being said, you can't trade the guy for peanuts so if no one is offering, then he stays.
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                  • DetDannyWilliams
                    Nobody in Hawaii wears a tie.
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 4186
                    #10
                    Re: Sabres info

                    Ott doesn't want to be a captain, speculation Mike Weber will be the Captain. http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs...130519254/1104

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                    • Swiper
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 33105
                      #11
                      Re: Sabres info

                      Originally posted by tampabay25690 View Post
                      You serious?
                      I probably will say more the awful Buffalo media that tries to find anything to write a story on a star..
                      Look at the Kaleta vs Miller crap that happened....
                      So many examples I don't have the time.
                      The media is the media. I wouldn't question that. But give one example how the Sabres organizations have treated him poorly.

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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101260
                        #12
                        Re: Sabres info

                        Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                        The media is the media. I wouldn't question that. But give one example how the Sabres organizations have treated him poorly.
                        He took less money to stay then they give huge contracts to asshats like Leino and Stafford.
                        They never got sufficient back-up and overplayed him pretty much every single year.
                        They wasted his prime because Darcy stuck to his core and wouldn't bring in the players they needed to win.
                        They didn't have the grit to stand up for him after the Lucic incident.
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                        • OpIv37
                          Acid Douching Asswipe
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 101260
                          #13
                          Re: Sabres info

                          Originally posted by DetDannyWilliams View Post
                          Ott doesn't want to be a captain, speculation Mike Weber will be the Captain. http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs...130519254/1104
                          Ott's a good leader but not captain material. Captains sometimes need the diplomacy to diffuse a situation with the refs or the other team. Ott is more of the "throw gasoline on the fire" type.
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                          • PTI
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 5316
                            #14
                            Re: Sabres info

                            Originally posted by DetDannyWilliams View Post
                            Ott doesn't want to be a captain, speculation Mike Weber will be the Captain. http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs...130519254/1104
                            I don't see in the article that it says Ott doesn't want to be, but I am nos surprised, self awareness is a good thing, he knows he is an unpredictable dick, and likes being like that, and that is not what a captain should be.

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                            • Dude
                              that slimey ass of an ***** at the zone
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 18176
                              #15
                              Re: Sabres info

                              Originally posted by PTI View Post
                              I don't see in the article that it says Ott doesn't want to be
                              His name isn't even mentioned. But consider the source.

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