First He Dumps Kessel... now he's Dumping Seguin?
Is Boston's GM mentally sane?
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uhhhh..... they won a Cup and made it to the finals in large part because of the guys they got for Kessel, meanwhile Kessel hasn't lived up to the hype in Toronto. It was almost the NHL's equivalent of the Herschel Walker trade. Hell, that Kessel trade is a big reason why Brian Burke got fired in Toronto.
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Seguin had some off the ice maturity issues. That ultimately led to his departure, not to mention his 5.7m boost didnt match up with his play.I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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I guess during the Stanley Cup playoffs they had to hire a security guard to stand outside his hotel room, to make sure he didn't go anywhere. That's what the Herald reported today.
During the TOR series he showed up in the clothes he was wearing the day before 3x.I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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Originally posted by The King View PostSeguin had some off the ice maturity issues. That ultimately led to his departure, not to mention his 5.7m boost didnt match up with his play.John Hemingway(facing certain death): I want to see Buffalo win the Super Bowl.
David Coltrane(threatening John): Nobody's going to live that long, pal.
-The John Larroquette Show, "A Dark and Stormy Night", 4/12/94
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Originally posted by OpIv37 View Postuhhhh..... they won a Cup and made it to the finals in large part because of the guys they got for Kessel, meanwhile Kessel hasn't lived up to the hype in Toronto. It was almost the NHL's equivalent of the Herschel Walker trade. Hell, that Kessel trade is a big reason why Brian Burke got fired in Toronto.
But totally agree that Cherelli knows exactly what he is doing.
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Originally posted by ckg927 View PostYou know how many players had the same problems Seguin has now? Quite a few. Chris Pronger was the same way when he played in Hartford, then wised up when he was moved to St. Louis. We all know of Patrick Kane's issues, which he seems to have put behind him.
Did you see Seguins opening answer at his press conference. This kid needs to be put on a straight and narrow path quick. He doesnt get it. They literally had to hire security to keep him in his room during the Stanley Cup playoffs.
But let's not forget the Bruins got a really good player in Ericcson and they dumped a contract that was way too costly. Ericcson is fit for our system where Seguin wasn't and obviously he didn't fit in the locker room either.Last edited by The King; 07-10-2013, 08:03 AM.I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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Originally posted by mightysimi View PostIt's hard to say that Kessel hasn't panned out in Toronto. Last full season he was 6th in scoring and this year was tied for 7th. Say what you want about his 2 way game but he is putting up points. And not firing Ron Wilson earlier is why Burke got fired. The trade looked bad at the time but they have already traded seguin so it says a lot so I think the Herschel walker trade was a little worse. Hell the Luongo to Vancouver trade was way worse. Mike Milbury had a hand full of terrible trades.
But totally agree that Cherelli knows exactly what he is doing.
Watching him sit as the last player picked in the NHL All Star draft, should be a pretty clear indication on how people feel about him, he's matured a bit and he's still finding his game, but moving him was an amazing deal for Boston.I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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Originally posted by The King View PostEveryone in Boston knows Kessel is a top flight talent. He's also a snot nosed brat. Bruins wanted him back, his demands were outrageous, we were also negotiating Krejci at the same time. We could only afford to keep one. When Kessel wouldnt negotiate they signed Krejci and the rest is history.
Watching him sit as the last player picked in the NHL All Star draft, should be a pretty clear indication on how people feel about him, he's matured a bit and he's still finding his game, but moving him was an amazing deal for Boston.
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I think it goes back to the Bruins fleecing TOR twice. The Raycroft deal and the Kessel deal.
For Kessel, we got Seguin and Hamilton, Seguin hasn't been everything we thought, but his performance during the TB series in 2011 was definitely key in our cup run. Hamilton is a solid young talent, I'm not sure he has a future in Boston yet. Krug earned a roster spot and Dougie is still light he needs to gain weight. We also have Bartkowski who's NHL ready someone has to go. It's not going to be Chara, Seids or Boychuck. That leaves McQuaid, Hamilton, Krug and Bartowski. I think one of the 4 won't be on the roster come Sept.
But getting Ericcson out of Seguin is a big victory for Boston, much like Kessel, Seguin wasn't playing hard both ways. And that doesn't sit well with Claude. It's going to take another 3 seasons or so to evaluate this one.
The Raycroft deal was genius. The Bruins were going to cut the guy and we got Rask out of it. Rask (although not my favorite player) is about to sign a franchise deal while Raycroft was bought out after two seasons.I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
"Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
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Originally posted by The King View PostI think it goes back to the Bruins fleecing TOR twice. The Raycroft deal and the Kessel deal.
For Kessel, we got Seguin and Hamilton, Seguin hasn't been everything we thought, but his performance during the TB series in 2011 was definitely key in our cup run. Hamilton is a solid young talent, I'm not sure he has a future in Boston yet. Krug earned a roster spot and Dougie is still light he needs to gain weight. We also have Bartkowski who's NHL ready someone has to go. It's not going to be Chara, Seids or Boychuck. That leaves McQuaid, Hamilton, Krug and Bartowski. I think one of the 4 won't be on the roster come Sept.
But getting Ericcson out of Seguin is a big victory for Boston, much like Kessel, Seguin wasn't playing hard both ways. And that doesn't sit well with Claude. It's going to take another 3 seasons or so to evaluate this one.
The Raycroft deal was genius. The Bruins were going to cut the guy and we got Rask out of it. Rask (although not my favorite player) is about to sign a franchise deal while Raycroft was bought out after two seasons.
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