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  • MidnightVoice
    Retired (mostly)
    • Mar 2003
    • 10781

    Statement from Whaley on Byrd

    http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2013/0...haley-on-byrd/

    Here is Bills GM Doug Whaley’s statement on franchise player Jairus Byrd and the inability to get a long term contract agreement completed prior to today’s 4 pm deadline.

    “We worked very hard to come to a long-term agreement with Jairus, but unfortunately, were unable to
    reach one before today’s deadline,” said Whaley. “Our attention will now be focused on a one-year agreement with him and on Training Camp with our continued efforts to prepare our team for the upcoming season.”





    After designating Bills safety Jairus Byrd their franchise player with the tender in March, the two sides had until 4 p.m. Monday to negotiate a long term contract agreement. That deadline however, came and went without a multi-year pact completed.

    “We worked very hard to come to a long-term agreement with Jairus, but unfortunately were unable to reach one before today’s deadline,” said Bills GM Doug Whaley in a statement issued after the 4 p.m. deadline passed. “Our attention will now be focused on a one-year agreement with him and on training camp with our continued efforts to prepare our team for the upcoming season.”

    By league rule the Bills will not be able to complete a contract extension with Byrd now until the end of the regular season at the earliest.

    Byrd now has only one option as far as playing for the Bills for the 2013 season is concerned, and that’s to sign his one-year franchise tender. That would guarantee his salary at $6.9 million for the season.

    When and if he chooses to make that decision is something that he and his agent only know at this point.

    If he elects not to sign the franchise tender prior to training camp Byrd would not be considered a holdout and could not be fined by the Bills. That’s because until he signs the tender he is not under contract and is technically a free agent.

    Signing and trading Byrd is an option, but Byrd would have to sign his one-year tender with the Bills before a trade could be orchestrated. At that point in time the Pro Bowl safety could be traded to another club for agreed upon compensation.

    The compensation does not necessarily have to be a pair of first-round draft choices as specified in the Collective Bargaining Agreement for a franchise player, provided the two clubs involved agree to less than that.

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  • BillsFever21
    Registered User
    • Aug 2004
    • 9067

    #2
    Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

    I say look for a trading partner. This team isn't competing this season and the inability of the front office to sign him to an extension puts us in this predicament. No matter what he will most likely be gone after this year anyway. We're not going to the playoffs and definitely not competing for a championship this season so it only makes sense to try and get a 2nd round pick for him.

    If he is only going to be around for one season why even waste the money and the playing time that could go to our younger guys to see what we have in them. That would give us a chance this year to see what our rookie safeties and Aaron Williams have to offer. That would hep us big time in determining whether we need to find a better replacement next season and use a draft pick on one. It wouldn't be worth signing a free agent if we didn't sign Byrd and already have a couple rookies on the team along with the horrendous Aaron Williams.

    If Aaron Williams turns into an average safety that would set the Bills up perfectly in a couple years to giving him 5-6 million a year instead of paying 8+ million for the premium player. That's usually how they work. Sign a couple average guys without much guaranteed money instead of keeping one top player and using a cheaper reliable rookie/free agents to fill in another spot on the team to make up the difference in cap space.

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    • T-Long
      Circling the Wagons since 1982.
      • Sep 2003
      • 3848

      #3
      Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

      I still don't understand why this is such a big deal. He is not going to sit out and leave 7 million on the table. He is going to sign his tender, then play for us in 2013. If he skips camp, then he skips camp. That's more reps for the younger guys...he will be more than ready to play in 2013 because he wants that big pay day.

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      • BillsFever21
        Registered User
        • Aug 2004
        • 9067

        #4
        Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

        Originally posted by T-Long View Post
        I still don't understand why this is such a big deal. He is not going to sit out and leave 7 million on the table. He is going to sign his tender, then play for us in 2013. If he skips camp, then he skips camp. That's more reps for the younger guys...he will be more than ready to play in 2013 because he wants that big pay day.
        The big deal is that it's about more then just this season. This team isn't good enough to compete this year and we're hoping/dreaming of building a winning team that can compete in a couple years and for the long-term after that. That's just about any teams goal in the NFL.

        Having Byrd for one season doesn't achieve any of them goals. Big deal if we get him for one losing season if he's gone afterwards. Good young players like Byrd are the type you want to keep around to help try and build a winning franchise. Letting them walk just leaves you wasting other draft picks on a guy to try and replace him which odds are won't nearly be as good or a turnover machine and game changer like he was.

        How many times do the Bills find a quality starter and trade him for peanuts or just let him walk. Then the following season we're using a high draft pick to try and replace him when that draft pick could've went to another position. Not only are you losing the good starter but you aren't upgrading any other positions on the team with that draft pick. It ends up being a double whammy.

        It's just like what we've done with RB's over the past decade. We use a first rounder to draft McGahee who plays alright and then trade him a few years later for middle round draft picks. Then the following season we use another high first round pick on Marshawn Lynch and a few years later we basically give him away by only getting a 4th rounder for him.

        That same year we use a Top 10 draft pick on another RB in CJ Spiller(who I love but still) even when we already had Jackson on the team. If their intentions were to trade Lynch then we didn't need a RB drafted that high just to barely play him. Then to make matters worse they barely use him for two years(outside of the end of his 2nd season due to injury to Jackson) and then underuse him in his third season when he is having a breakout campaign. That was basically 3 first round picks on RB's in about an 8 year span.

        There are many other examples with other positions but that is the best example that can be used. Instead of using our draft picks to try and build a team we need to just keep using them to replace positions that we already had filled because for whatever reasons we didn't pay them or would end up trading them on the cheap. If that wasn't the case then it's because the other high pick was just a flat out bust.

        This type of management is the reason why we continue to tread water. We don't get any better or even much worse. We just keep staying the same every year. If you keep your best important players around you can use your draft picks on upgrading other positions to build a team for a 5+ year window of opportunity of competing for a championship. Instead we just sit there 10-20 million under the salary cap almost every season for the past decade outside of a few seasons when we would sign a high priced free agent(s).
        Last edited by BillsFever21; 07-15-2013, 06:16 PM.

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        • BertSquirtgum
          Registered User
          • May 2009
          • 13379

          #5
          Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

          Byrd is a scumbag

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          • Albany,n.y.
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 5599

            #6
            Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

            Originally posted by HurkeyNuts View Post
            Byrd is a scumbag
            Don't hate the player, hate the game. All he is doing is trying to maximize his value.

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            • T-Long
              Circling the Wagons since 1982.
              • Sep 2003
              • 3848

              #7
              Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

              All valid points, but it's not just for this season. The Bills can franchise him again next year, so we will have him guaranteed for 2 more seasons if we want him. If he still doesn't get a deal worked out, then what can they do? I have no problem believing that this staff wants Byrd on the team, but will not overpay him. I want him on this team just as much as the next guy, but having him for 2 more seasons (if they wish) and being able to work out a long term deal in those 2 years is something I am confident in.

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              • BillsFever21
                Registered User
                • Aug 2004
                • 9067

                #8
                Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

                Originally posted by T-Long View Post
                All valid points, but it's not just for this season. The Bills can franchise him again next year, so we will have him guaranteed for 2 more seasons if we want him. If he still doesn't get a deal worked out, then what can they do? I have no problem believing that this staff wants Byrd on the team, but will not overpay him. I want him on this team just as much as the next guy, but having him for 2 more seasons (if they wish) and being able to work out a long term deal in those 2 years is something I am confident in.
                After what happened with other players getting tagged for 2 or 3 seasons in a row it's very uncommon that any player signs the franchise tag without a clause that they become an unrestricted free agent the following season. Especially a top player at his position that can get a hefty payday on the open market if the team he is on isn't willing to give it to him.

                Even if we did tag him for a 2nd season that still doesn't fit into our long-term plans. If everything did happen to work out and we improved then he would be gone the season after we start improving and ready to take the next step as a playoff team. Either way it doesn't work out and he's somebody you would want here for the next 5 years while you are trying to build that regular playoff contender to try and give yourself a window of opportunity to win a championship.

                It can work out for you if you are young, continue to play well and don't suffer any injuries. If you get tagged twice then your salary goes up in the 2nd year even more. Then after that if you can still sign a big money deal then you end up making more money when it's all said and done.

                These guys are one play/injury away from either never being the same player again or never playing again period. They want to cash in on the guaranteed money when they have the chance. They don't have 100% guaranteed contracts like they do in the other sports and they are more prone to having a major injury while they are waiting for that contract.

                Most positions also have a much shorter shelf life too then if you're a basketball or baseball player. These guys aren't going to see huge contracts after 30 years old and many of them are lucky to still be playing after 32 or so. Positions like QB are the exception along with certain iron man players. The vast majority only have that one chance to cash in. I don't fault them one bit for wanting to get paid when they have the chance.
                Last edited by BillsFever21; 07-15-2013, 08:13 PM.

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                • The Toe Show
                  Perfect Toes Everytime!
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 148

                  #9
                  Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

                  Whaley is open for business on Byrd and rolling the dice with (4) Duke Williams and (5) Jonathan Meeks. Maybe those guys are better fits for the new D scheme?


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                  • kishoph
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 3157

                    #10
                    Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

                    Originally posted by The Toe Show View Post
                    Whaley is open for business on Byrd and rolling the dice with (4) Duke Williams and (5) Jonathan Meeks. Maybe those guys are better fits for the new D scheme?


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                    This is what I'm thinking in a way, maybe it's not that Williams or Meeks will be a better fit, but the difference between them does not justify the money Byrd wants. Even though this staff has not worked with Byrd, they have every piece of film on him to decide if he is that important to their scheme to pay him that kind of money and obviously they feel he's not. In his 4 years, Byrd's had 2 very average years and has not shown the consistency to be a top paid player at his position. Byrd is the only player of the 8 franchised not to accept his tender, if he decides to hold out of camp, I'd rather not have him at all.

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                    • better days
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22028

                      #11
                      Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

                      Originally posted by T-Long View Post
                      All valid points, but it's not just for this season. The Bills can franchise him again next year, so we will have him guaranteed for 2 more seasons if we want him. If he still doesn't get a deal worked out, then what can they do? I have no problem believing that this staff wants Byrd on the team, but will not overpay him. I want him on this team just as much as the next guy, but having him for 2 more seasons (if they wish) and being able to work out a long term deal in those 2 years is something I am confident in.
                      Yes the Bills can franchise him again next year & keep him for another year, but I think it is time to cut bait myself.

                      People bring up Peters when dealing with Parker, well I think the Bills made out damn good with the Peters deal.

                      I would like to have Byrd on the Bills, but not at the amount of money he is demanding.

                      Trade him for the best offer IMO. Hell, they traded Lynch for a damn 4th rnd pick. IMO, Lynch is a BETTER player than Byrd.

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                      • jdaltroy5
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3227

                        #12
                        Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

                        Originally posted by better days View Post
                        Yes the Bills can franchise him again next year & keep him for another year, but I think it is time to cut bait myself.

                        People bring up Peters when dealing with Parker, well I think the Bills made out damn good with the Peters deal.

                        I would like to have Byrd on the Bills, but not at the amount of money he is demanding.

                        Trade him for the best offer IMO. Hell, they traded Lynch for a damn 4th rnd pick. IMO, Lynch is a BETTER player than Byrd.
                        They made out damn well with the Peters deal?

                        Peters has been an All-Pro twice and been to the pro bowl 3 times since he's been gone. Most people would call him the best all around LT in the game.

                        In that same time frame we've tried Walker, Bell, Hairston, Levitre, and Glenn at LT. The only one that has even looked CLOSE to Peters is Glenn and we used the 33rd overall pick to get. Only 5 spots lower than the pick we received when we traded Peters.

                        In return we got Wood who has been good when healthy, Shawn Nelson (who did nothing), and Danny Batten (who did nothing).

                        So no, we didn't do very well with the Jason Peters trade.

                        Sure saved a lot of money though.

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                        • IlluminatusUIUC
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                          • Sep 2012
                          • 8966

                          #13
                          Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

                          Originally posted by better days View Post
                          Trade him for the best offer IMO. Hell, they traded Lynch for a damn 4th rnd pick. IMO, Lynch is a BETTER player than Byrd.
                          Are you actually hyping that deal up? That was one of the worst fleecings in the league!


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                          • better days
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 22028

                            #14
                            Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

                            Originally posted by jdaltroy5 View Post
                            They made out damn well with the Peters deal?

                            Peters has been an All-Pro twice and been to the pro bowl 3 times since he's been gone. Most people would call him the best all around LT in the game.

                            In that same time frame we've tried Walker, Bell, Hairston, Levitre, and Glenn at LT. The only one that has even looked CLOSE to Peters is Glenn and we used the 33rd overall pick to get. Only 5 spots lower than the pick we received when we traded Peters.

                            In return we got Wood who has been good when healthy, Shawn Nelson (who did nothing), and Danny Batten (who did nothing).

                            So no, we didn't do very well with the Jason Peters trade.

                            Sure saved a lot of money though.
                            And what did the Eagles get? A player that is often injured in Peters & is looking for more money from the Eagles now.

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                            • BertSquirtgum
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                              • May 2009
                              • 13379

                              #15
                              Re: Statement from Whaley on Byrd

                              Originally posted by Albany,n.y. View Post
                              Don't hate the player, hate the game. All he is doing is trying to maximize his value.
                              Well I'm starting to hate the player just like I started to hate Peters when he pulled this ****.

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