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X-Era

08-26-2013, 12:47 PM

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Byrd: "I'm not trying to be a distraction. I'm here to play football"

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Byrd: "In 4 years if I didn't prove it, I don't know what I can do."

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Byrd: Confident he can return to form with more practice time.

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Byrd: "They feel one way, we feel another"

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Byrd: "I feel how anyone else in my position would feel. I try not to take it personal but it's hard"

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Should have paid him. We don't need a disgruntled player. Worries me whether we can repair it now.

(Here's the video)
http://www.buffalobills.com/video/videos/Jairus-Byrd-Press-Conference/6e3bd055-82d9-4d04-8207-22350bc1ce74?campaign=tw_buf_video

Thief

08-26-2013, 12:52 PM

Is it business or personal Byrd? Which reason did you hold out for?

Skooby

08-26-2013, 12:59 PM

On a #31 team defense, it's hard to justify #1 player money.

justasportsfan

08-26-2013, 01:03 PM

Welker signed his tag, played for a year. Byrd should shut up and do the same.

X-Era

08-26-2013, 01:04 PM

Welker signed his tag, played for a year. Byrd should shut up and do the same.Well he appears ready to play for a year. He's got that part.

justasportsfan

08-26-2013, 01:05 PM

Well he appears ready to play for a year. He's got that part. yup. Now where's that duct tape?

X-Era

08-26-2013, 01:06 PM

better days

08-26-2013, 01:09 PM

"Disappointed by Jairus Byrd's return presser. This whole thing seems to have changed him. That's a bitter kid who doesn't want to be here."

https://twitter.com/salmaiorana/status/372056617401208832

If he wants out, trade him. This is a team trying to rebuild and head in a positive direction.

I would not object to trading him for equal value, but I don't want to see him shipped off for a 4th rnd pick like Lynch was. I'm still mad about that.

X-Era

08-26-2013, 01:10 PM

I would not object to trading him for equal value, but I don't want to see him shipped off for a 4th rnd pick like Lynch was. I'm still mad about that.
I would think a pro-bowl S is worth a good deal more.

SpikedLemonade

08-26-2013, 01:12 PM

Golly geez guys, a 3-13 season will make him want to stay in Buffalo long term.

kingJofNYC

08-26-2013, 01:13 PM

Where's the animosity? Speaking the truth. I don't see any hostility.

Pay the ****ing man.

SpikedLemonade

08-26-2013, 01:13 PM

I would not object to trading him for equal value, but I don't want to see him shipped off for a 4th rnd pick like Lynch was. I'm still mad about that.

Who do you blame for that?

Meathead

08-26-2013, 01:13 PM

he coulda got rich as the third highest paid safety in the league, not have to worry about getting injured, and come back in a couple seasons to ask for more if he really was the best

its his own dumb fault he didnt take the wiser approach

X-Era

08-26-2013, 01:14 PM

Animosity- an antagonistic attitude.

"they feel one way, we feel another"

I will admit that it isn't "trade me".

Thurmal

08-26-2013, 01:14 PM

Amazing what a difference 48 hours makes. I was really positive about this season. Wasn't expecting playoffs or anything, but thought we would see a new culture and a team that was going to be one of those scrappy squads no one wants to play.

Now, everything looks abysmal. With Manuel, Kolb, and Gilmore out, I can't see any scenario where we come within 20 points of New England.

better days

08-26-2013, 01:15 PM

Where's the animosity? Speaking the truth. I don't see any hostility.

Pay the ****ing man.

The Bills are not allowed to pay him for more than this year at this point.

X-Era

08-26-2013, 01:24 PM

"My take on Jairus Byrd's news conference today: He doesn't want to play for the Bills anymore, but he happens to play for them now."

https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham/status/372060816314339328

IlluminatusUIUC

08-26-2013, 01:30 PM

This season is off to a bang-up start.

kingJofNYC

08-26-2013, 01:35 PM

The Bills are not allowed to pay him for more than this year at this point.

They could have extended him a long time ago, but they chose to spend it on Super Mario and Anderson who did **** all for this franchise.

Can't even take care of our own home grown players. Pathetic, top to bottom.

Pinkerton Security

08-26-2013, 01:37 PM

"My take on Jairus Byrd's news conference today: He doesn't want to play for the Bills anymore, but he happens to play for them now."

https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham/status/372060816314339328

Gee golly Tim, your amazing analytical skills must be why they pay you the big bucks!

NOT THE DUDE...

08-26-2013, 01:38 PM

byrd has one person to blame, Eugene parker. they offered a ton of money, parker refused. and that is the honest truth

The King

08-26-2013, 01:39 PM

His issue is with Whaley not the coaching staff. So he needs to go out there and earn his spot. The cards will fall after that.

better days

08-26-2013, 01:39 PM

They could have extended him a long time ago, but they chose to spend it on Super Mario and Anderson who did **** all for this franchise.

Can't even take care of our own home grown players. Pathetic, top to bottom.

They could still have paid him. It is not like they don't have the cap room to do so.

Would be nice to know what the hell the Bills are thinking.

justasportsfan

08-26-2013, 01:40 PM

the problem here is that someone whispered to Byrd's ear and told him he's the best safety in the NFL, he should be paid accordingly and he believed that voice.

NOT THE DUDE...

08-26-2013, 01:42 PM

the problem here is that someone whispered to Byrd's ear and told him he's the best safety in the NFL, he should be paid accordingly and he believed that voice.

except hes not, hes a top 5 or 8 safety....

trapezeus

08-26-2013, 01:47 PM

i see both sides argument. but i see byrds pretty clearly. the bills have shown to be a f'd up organization in terms of getting stuff right. it's indisputable for the last 13 years. if you are an excellent player at a position with no support staff, you aren't going to get the #1 numbers. look at last year, where is a safety going to get INT's and pass break ups, etc. when teams can run the ball down your throat for most of a game. and you end up being called up to play run support where 1. you can get injured more likely, and 2. be out of position.

To have performed at all under that is a testament to how good he is.

I have no idea what the bills offered him, but if they were off by a good amount, you can't trust that the bills got a good HC and Dc on faith. history shows they don't get it right. it's your body and your livelihood you are gambling with. They have the ability to talk in "faith" and "wanting to win". The players are one play away from not making that kind of money again.

On the flip side, the bills are being asked to pony up on faith that byrd can keep it going at a higher level with the new changes. with the bills under no stress of being near the cap, it is strange to not pay one of your best players when almost no one else has shown that they deserve #1 money. but what's the point in paying a guy who is a top 5 #1 money and watch him never push himself to that next level that you desperately need from him. and if you are serious in the FO, being a superbowl team is at least 3-4 years away. Bryd will start moving past his prime and you'll be paying for it.

the issue with the bills operation is that they keep thinking down the road will automatically be better and they put no value in improving today. even right now, we feel like, "if we suck again this year, it may be beneficial for next year." That's not how it works. at somepoint, you just have to get better and pay the price today on improving.

from the quotes, i think byrd sounds reasonable. he didn't get paid this time like he'd want. that's the fact. he's here. he's not a distraction. the bills haven't suggested that he's a problem. so let's see how it plays out.

i think if he plays really well and the bills keep communicatino open with him and say, "we're sorry it didn't happen in the time frame you wanted, but you have shown us you are a #1, and you've shown some leadereship skills, here is what you wanted last year, this year." i think byrd signs. if the bills try to game him again this year, he's not going to be here next year.

jdaltroy5

08-26-2013, 01:49 PM

the problem here is that someone whispered to Byrd's ear and told him he's the best safety in the NFL, he should be paid accordingly and he believed that voice.
No, the problem is that we tried to cheap out and get "value."

We refused to "overpay" him and now he's most likely going to be wearing another team's jersey while he's in his prime.

Even if he's not the best safety in the league (which a lot of people think he is), teams like Buffalo HAVE to overpay premiere talent if they expect to retain and attract them.

If you're a multiple pro bowler who's not from Buffalo, is there any chance in Hell you'd sign here for equal money?

trapezeus

08-26-2013, 01:53 PM

they would sign here if there was a legit chance to win. the bills front office approach is so slow that they fight the guys they should sign and then put the kolbs and kelsays onto the roster.

small market teams don't have to overpay when the team thinks its building to get somehwere. the bills are still only hope and dreams of being good. unless the players buy into marrone's system and the good ones think, "hey, it's worth it here, because once i don't have to be a superstar every play, this team could win it all"

it's a mentality that's been missing for years.

better days

08-26-2013, 01:54 PM

kingJofNYC

08-26-2013, 01:54 PM

except hes not, hes a top 5 or 8 safety....

hahaha, ridiculous

jdaltroy5

08-26-2013, 01:55 PM

IlluminatusUIUC

08-26-2013, 01:59 PM

X-Era

08-26-2013, 02:01 PM

No, the problem is that we tried to cheap out and get "value."

We refused to "overpay" him and now he's most likely going to be wearing another team's jersey while he's in his prime.

Even if he's not the best safety in the league (which a lot of people think he is), teams like Buffalo HAVE to overpay premiere talent if they expect to retain and attract them.

If you're a multiple pro bowler who's not from Buffalo, is there any chance in Hell you'd sign here for equal money?

What it takes to attract top talent is to have a winning organization that has a legit shot to win it all. Unless you overpay.
What it takes to keep your own sometimes is to overpay. I'm alright with that depending on how much extra and for what player at what position. Levitre? No. Byrd? Yes.

Should have over-paid him when we had the chance. Now, he potentially can eat away at the positivity.

better days

08-26-2013, 02:03 PM

That's totally irrelevant. He can live a good life making $100,000 a year.

You're just trying to justify their incompetence.

NO, I'm pointing out players today do not need long term contracts for security any longer.

When players were making $100,000 for a year, they were living a good life, but a long term contract gave them security. Today, they don't need that long term contract for security.

justasportsfan

08-26-2013, 02:05 PM

No, the problem is that we tried to cheap out and get "value."

We refused to "overpay" him and now he's most likely going to be wearing another team's jersey while he's in his prime.

Even if he's not the best safety in the league (which a lot of people think he is), teams like Buffalo HAVE to overpay premiere talent if they expect to retain and attract them.

If you're a multiple pro bowler who's not from Buffalo, is there any chance in Hell you'd sign here for equal money?

Whether Byrd is the best safety is a matter of opinion. He was not what Welker was at his position. If Byrd wants to think he's the best, he has this season to prove it. I can see where the bills are coming from, Byrd has to prove he's the best playing a new system before they pay him no.1 salary. I know it sucks for BYrd but thats what the franchise tag is for and if Byrd has a problem, he should take it up with his players union.

I wanted BYrd paid btw, but don't think he's the best in the NFL.

jdaltroy5

08-26-2013, 02:12 PM

Whether Byrd is the best safety is a matter of opinion. He was not what Welker was at his position.I don't know what that has to do with anything.

If Byrd wants to think he's the best, he has this season to prove it.No, he had the LAST FOUR YEARS to prove it. Which he did.

I can see where the bills are coming from Byrd has to prove he's the best playing a new system before they pay him no.1 salary.They should design their system around their most talented players. If Byrd doesn't have an impact in this system, then I'm seriously going to question Pettine's competence. Byrd has had an impact in 3 different defensive systems.

I know it sucks for BYrd but thats what the franchise tag is for and if Byrd has a problem, he should take it up with his players union.The franchise tag should only be used as a last resort. By all accounts he WANTED to stay here.

I wanted BYrd paid btw, but don't think he's the best in the NFL.At this point in their careers, who is better than Byrd at FS?

better days

08-26-2013, 02:14 PM

It sure is easy to sit back and ask someone else to give up millions of dollars.

Again, I am talking about the relevence of a long term contract and that is all.

Give up millions of dollars? Bryd, like the rest of the World has to EARN his money. NOBODY is asking him to give up anything.

If you want a raise, you have to prove to your boss you are worth it. If you don't prove that to him, you are not giving up anything, you just haven't EARNED it.

There is NO PROOF ANY team would pay Byrd what he asked the Bills to pay him.

Especially when they held his rights as the Bills do.

IlluminatusUIUC

08-26-2013, 02:15 PM

Whether Byrd is the best safety is a matter of opinion. He was not what Welker was at his position.

He's 6 years younger then Welker. If Wes was in his mid-20s hitting the market the Pats would have paid him.

If Byrd wants to think he's the best, he has this season to prove it. I can see where the bills are coming from, Byrd has to prove he's the best playing a new system before they pay him no.1 salary. I know it sucks for BYrd but thats what the franchise tag is for and if Byrd has a problem, he should take it up with his players union.

I wanted BYrd paid btw, but don't think he's the best in the NFL.

He's already played under three separate DCs, but apparently he still has something to prove?

jdaltroy5

08-26-2013, 02:19 PM

NO, I'm pointing out players today do not need long term contracts for security any longer.

When players were making $100,000 for a year, they were living a good life, but a long term contract gave them security. Today, they don't need that long term contract for security.
Again, that doesn't matter at all.

Do you want to get paid for your skill set relative to your peers?

I certainly do.

IlluminatusUIUC

08-26-2013, 02:21 PM

Again, I am talking about the relevence of a long term contract and that is all.

Give up millions of dollars? Bryd, like the rest of the World has to EARN his money. NOBODY is asking him to give up anything.

If you want a raise, you have to prove to your boss you are worth it. If you don't prove that to him, you are not giving up anything, you just haven't EARNED it.

There is NO PROOF ANY team would pay Byrd what he asked the Bills to pay him.

NFL teams are specifically prevented from negotiating with Byrd's agent or interfering in the Bills' dealing. Claiming that he wouldn't make that money because there's NO PROOF is ridiculous. We know what Goldson got, and Byrd is younger and accomplished more with less around him. Goldson's contract is the low water mark of what Byrd would make.

And asking Byrd to take 7 million when we know that he'd be making 8+ on the open market is forfeiting millions during his prime earning years.

justasportsfan

08-26-2013, 02:22 PM

He's 6 years younger then Welker. If Wes was in his mid-20s hitting the market the Pats would have paid him.

that still doesn't make Byrd the best in the NFL. The bills could get caught into another Mario Williams situation where we pay Byrd no.1 money only to find out he won't work in this new system.

Mr. Pink

08-26-2013, 02:22 PM

except hes not, hes a top 5 or 8 safety....

He's a top 3 safety and should have been paid accordingly.

Not been offered almost a million LESS than Goldson got in FA.

X-Era

08-26-2013, 02:23 PM

NFL teams are specifically prevented from negotiating with Byrd's agent or interfering in the Bills' dealing. Claiming that he wouldn't make that money because there's NO PROOF is ridiculous. We know what Goldson got, and Byrd is younger and accomplished more with less around him. Goldson's contract is the low water mark of what Byrd would make.

And asking Byrd to take 7 million when we know that he'd be making 8+ on the open market is forfeiting millions during his prime earning years.
Byrd could be signed for 8 mill per or even 7.5 with more up front.

If we can get Jarius tto be pleased to be a Bill again. That's not a given at all in my mind.

Mr. Pink

08-26-2013, 02:26 PM

Byrd could be signed for 8 mill per or even 7.5 with more up front.

If we can get Jarius tto be pleased to be a Bill again. That's not a given at all in my mind.

smh

We offered him 7.4 and were almost 2 million away from his demands. You really think 8 per would have done it????

8.5 to 9 would have likely done it. With 20 some odd mill guaranteed.

X-Era

08-26-2013, 02:27 PM

smh

We offered him 7.4 and were almost 2 million away from his demands. You really think 8 per would have done it????

8.5 to 9 would have likely done it. With 20 some odd mill guaranteed.
Yes, I really do. Go 8 with more guaranteed money.

Mr. Pink

08-26-2013, 02:29 PM

Yes, I really do. Go 8 with more guaranteed money.

And the problem is if Byrd puts up another good season his price is gonna go up another million per.

Typical of this organization, no foresight to pay guys and let stupid crap linger til we either just lose the player or have to trade them...

But we can go all out and give one trick pony's like Evans big money without batting an eye and signing crap QBs to big money.

IlluminatusUIUC

08-26-2013, 02:32 PM

that still doesn't make Byrd the best in the NFL.

It shows that the Welker situation was very different and not analogous to Byrd's.

The bills could get caught into another Mario Williams situation where we pay Byrd no.1 money only to find out he won't work in this new system.

For the 800th time, Pettine's system isn't revolutionary. FFS, you guys act like you've never seen a blitz before. Pettine needs to adapt his scheme to fit his talent, or he's a moron that needs to be fired. You jettison guys like Barnett and Kyle Moore because they "don't fit the system." You don't dump 26 year old All Pros.

And besides, you know what aggressive schemes need? Excellent defenders on the back end to cover for the blitzers. Pettine had that in New York, yet somehow he doesn't need them here?

Byrd could be signed for 8 mill per or even 7.5 with more up front.

If we can get Jarius tto be pleased to be a Bill again. That's not a given at all in my mind.

I don't know why he would take that. Again, Goldson set the market for Byrd. The fact that we still couldn't get a deal done is criminal.

justasportsfan

08-26-2013, 02:47 PM

It shows that the Welker situation was very different and not analogous to Byrd's..it is to a certain degree when talking about being no.1 at your position. Should we keep paying players no.1 salary because they think they are the best ? Every player think they are better than they think they are. Play that one year and prove to everyone you're the best. Welker had to do it and Byrd isn't there yet.

Don't blame the bills for the tag. Take it up with your union. The bills didn't take it against Byrd for not showing up. It was well within his rights. Byrd shouldn't blame the bills for using the tag . Thats what it's for.

For the 800th time, Pettine's system isn't revolutionary. FFS, you guys act like you've never seen a blitz before. Pettine needs to adapt his scheme to fit his talent, or he's a moron that needs to be fired. You jettison guys like Barnett and Kyle Moore because they "don't fit the system." You don't dump 26 year old All Pros.

And besides, you know what aggressive schemes need? Excellent defenders on the back end to cover for the blitzers. Pettine had that in New York, yet somehow he doesn't need them here?

again, if thats the case then Byrd has to prove it.

DraftBoy

08-26-2013, 02:49 PM

Welker signed his tag, played for a year. Byrd should shut up and do the same.

And if he blows out a knee and loses millions...? Or God forbid has a career ending injury?

jdaltroy5

08-26-2013, 02:49 PM

it isn't when talking about being no.1 at your position. Should we keep paying players no.1 salary because they think they are the best ? Every player think they are better than they think they are. Play that one year and prove to everyone you're the best. Welker had to do it and Byrd isn't there yet.

again, if thats the case then Byrd has to prove it.
What are you talking about?

He HAS proven it.

The only thing this whole "Well he has to prove it" mentality is going to achieve is to see Byrd in another jersey.

IlluminatusUIUC

08-26-2013, 02:50 PM

it isn't when talking about being no.1 at your position. Should we keep paying players no.1 salary because they think they are the best ? Every player think they are better than they think they are. Play that one year and prove to everyone you're the best. Welker had to do it and Byrd isn't there yet.

What are you talking about? Welker wasn't the best at his position and he's leaving his prime, I'm not sure why you keep bringing him up.

again, if thats the case then Byrd has to prove it.

He did prove it.

justasportsfan

08-26-2013, 02:51 PM

And if he blows out a knee and loses millions...? Or God forbid has a career ending injury?

he put himself in that situation when he thought of himself as being the best in the league and would not take anything less.

X-Era

08-26-2013, 02:51 PM

"Jairus Byrd doesn't deny he has asked Bills for a trade"

https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham/status/372082937585340416

justasportsfan

08-26-2013, 02:51 PM

What are you talking about? Welker wasn't the best at his position and he's leaving his prime, I'm not sure why you keep bringing him up.

He did prove it. he hasn't proven he's the best in the league.

DraftBoy

08-26-2013, 02:54 PM

he put himself in that situation when he thought of himself as being the best in the league and would not take anything less.

No you put him in that situation. He did all he could to protect himself.

- - - Updated - - -

"Jairus Byrd doesn't deny he has asked Bills for a trade"

https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham/status/372082937585340416

Shocking...

Where the blowhard now saying all of that was matter of opinion stuff? Too many people who are linked up with NFL teams were whispering about it.

DraftBoy

08-26-2013, 02:54 PM

he hasn't proven he's the best in the league.

But like you said its a matter of opinion, so why is your opinion that he hasn't any more relevant than his that he has?

justasportsfan

08-26-2013, 02:54 PM

No you put him in that situation. He did all he could to protect himself.

and if that isn't enough protection then the union should address the tag. The bills are not doing anything illegal.

DraftBoy

08-26-2013, 02:55 PM

and if that isn't wnough protection then they union should address the tag. The bills are not doing anything illegal.

They did, doesn't mean he needs to just sit down, shut up, and know his place.

Either did Byrd, yet some here want to criticize him for what he did.

IlluminatusUIUC

08-26-2013, 02:55 PM

he hasn't proven he's the best in the league.

He's proven more than Mario had when we signed him to that enormous contract. Hell, Tony Romo even got a massive extension.

Meanwhile, we are pissing about arguing whether Byrd is Top 1 or Top 5 while we keep throwing money at average guys like Manny Lawson.

X-Era

08-26-2013, 02:58 PM

No you put him in that situation. He did all he could to protect himself.

- - - Updated - - -

Shocking...

Where the blowhard now saying all of that was matter of opinion stuff? Too many people who are linked up with NFL teams were whispering about it.He is a blow hard and kind of a ***** lately. Went round and round on Twitter about the Mario with guns pictures.

I will say though that there is a point to be made about the franchise tag. The CBA got signed with it in there. Holdout? OK, do it. But don't whine about the tag. It's part of the rules. Not totally saying he is.

justasportsfan

08-26-2013, 03:10 PM

He's proven more than Mario had when we signed him to that enormous contract. Hell, Tony Romo even got a massive extension. exactly, so why repeat. IMO, Mario was signed because of Wanny and co. I have stated that if Chan was still the coach, Byrd would've been paid. It's a new staff. I know it sucks for Byrd, but it is what it is.

Meanwhile, we are pissing about arguing whether Byrd is Top 1 or Top 5 while we keep throwing money at average guys like Manny Lawson. he doesn't carry a 9 million /year salary.

alohabillsfan

08-26-2013, 03:11 PM

Bye bye byrdie

justasportsfan

08-26-2013, 03:18 PM

in his interview, he said it's part of the business side of things. It sucks for him but it is business. I still hope the bills pay him in the end.

http://www.buffalobills.com/video/videos/Jairus-Byrd-Press-Conference/6e3bd055-82d9-4d04-8207-22350bc1ce74

Mr. Pink

08-26-2013, 03:19 PM

If he's still here next year I'd be shocked...pleasantly shocked...but shocked nonetheless.

The King

08-26-2013, 03:38 PM

Here's the video. http://www.buffalobills.com/video/videos/Jairus-Byrd-Press-Conference/6e3bd055-82d9-4d04-8207-22350bc1ce74?campaign=tw_buf_video

The King

08-26-2013, 03:45 PM

Jesus. This isn't a guy who's learning the business this is a kid who's pouting publicly. Man up.

IlluminatusUIUC

08-26-2013, 03:58 PM

exactly, so why repeat.

Because you invest in 26 year old All Pros. Those are the smart risks to take.

IMO, Mario was signed because of Wanny and co. I have stated that if Chan was still the coach, Byrd would've been paid. It's a new staff. I know it sucks for Byrd, but it is what it is.

Well it sucks for the team too.

he doesn't carry a 9 million /year salary.

No, but you start adding up the bums and you reach 9 million pretty quick.

BillsFever21

08-26-2013, 03:59 PM

They could still have paid him. It is not like they don't have the cap room to do so.

Would be nice to know what the hell the Bills are thinking.

Our NFL cap room and Ralph's operating cap room expenses are two totally different things.

BillsFever21

08-26-2013, 04:10 PM

except hes not, hes a top 5 or 8 safety....

When our top players want to be paid they automatically become middle of the road players. Anybody else we sign/re-sign or that's on the Bills are automatically good players though. That's one hell of a flawed logic.

Mr. Pink

08-26-2013, 04:13 PM

When our top players want to be paid they automatically become middle of the road players. Anybody else we sign/re-sign or that's on the Bills are automatically good players though. That's one hell of a flawed logic.

Da'rick Rogers was the next Eric Moulds and Jarius Byrd is a scrub.

Don't you love it???

NTD is easily the worst poster on this board.

BillsFever21

08-26-2013, 04:16 PM

A long time ago, when players were not making the kind of money they do today, a long term contract really meant security for a player.

Who can not live a GOOD life when they make $6.9 Million Dollars in a year? Even if they never make another dollar after that by working.

All of that is has nothing to do with players today. It doesn't matter how much the players are making they are still going to want to be paid what they're worth. Unless you're a high draft choice then you basically only have one shot at getting paid.

It doesn't matter if you make $69,000 a year or 6.9 million a year anybody is going to want what their worth. They have a short window to make their money from a bunch of billionaire owners. It's easy to sit there and say somebody else should take 5-10 million less then what their market value dictates when it's not your own money.

He has performed under 3 different DC's and systems in 4 years. Even under Wanny's system that you use an excuse for with every player on the team who failed last year. He has proven to be one of the best safeties n the game. He has been a turnover machine on one of the worse defenses in the league over the past four years while playing under three different coordinators and systems.

BillsFever21

08-26-2013, 04:18 PM

Da'rick Rogers was the next Eric Moulds and Jarius Byrd is a scrub.

Don't you love it???

NTD is easily the worst poster on this board.

Had they signed him this offseason then he would be touted as one of the best current safeties in the league and one of the all time greats though. It's just the flawed mindset of a Bills apologist and homer.

DynaPaul

08-26-2013, 04:24 PM

Shut up, enjoy your tender money, and earn your big contract.

better days

08-26-2013, 05:04 PM

All of that is has nothing to do with players today. It doesn't matter how much the players are making they are still going to want to be paid what they're worth. Unless you're a high draft choice then you basically only have one shot at getting paid.

It doesn't matter if you make $69,000 a year or 6.9 million a year anybody is going to want what their worth. They have a short window to make their money from a bunch of billionaire owners. It's easy to sit there and say somebody else should take 5-10 million less then what their market value dictates when it's not your own money.

He has performed under 3 different DC's and systems in 4 years. Even under Wanny's system that you use an excuse for with every player on the team who failed last year. He has proven to be one of the best safeties n the game. He has been a turnover machine on one of the worse defenses in the league over the past four years while playing under three different coordinators and systems.

I have already said, my point was about long term contracts, not players per se.

Long term contracts are no longer needed by players as a security blanket, that is the point I am making.

Yes ALL players no matter how OVERPAID they are, want to be paid more. That is the reason it cost so much to go to games now.

BertSquirtgum

08-26-2013, 06:52 PM

Jason peters situation all over again. Thanks Eugene Parker. What a piece of **** scuz.

kingJofNYC

08-26-2013, 07:00 PM

Jason peters situation all over again. Thanks Eugene Parker. What a piece of **** scuz.

Yeah, it's always the agent, never the org

tampabay25690

08-26-2013, 07:51 PM

He seems like a guy that doesn't want to be in Buffalo!!!!

BertSquirtgum

08-26-2013, 07:57 PM

Yeah, it's always the agent, never the org

It's 100% the player and the agent.

Mr Bills

08-26-2013, 10:12 PM

It seriously boggles my mind that this franchise can overpay for scrubs like Kelsay, Mckelvin, Brad Smith, Mark Anderson, Ryan Fitzmagic, etc but can't overpay for a player that's one of the best at his position, multiple pro-bowls, and entering his prime.

Seriously why do they overpay scrubs but refuse to overpay good players?

Just give Byrd 9-9.5 per yr and call it a day. Jesus... This team is so frustrating.

trapezeus

08-27-2013, 07:21 AM

think about how much they are paying fitz to NOT play for the bills this year. and then add 3 mm to get to byrd's desired salary.

jdaltroy5

08-27-2013, 07:59 AM

It's 100% the player and the agent.
And yet, that player has WAY overplayed his rookie contract and never made a fuss about it. And that agent has represented MULTIPLE pro bowl players that played the majority of their careers with one team.

And that organization is generally known as cheap and incompetent.

But yeah, definitely the player and agent.

better days

08-27-2013, 09:31 AM

And yet, that player has WAY overplayed his rookie contract and never made a fuss about it. And that agent has represented MULTIPLE pro bowl players that played the majority of their careers with one team.

And that organization is generally known as cheap and incompetent.

But yeah, definitely the player and agent.

I think there is enough blame for both sides to share. Byrd is resigned to the fact the Bills can tag him next year as well. Hopefully a deal can be worked out after the season.