Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

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  • Skooby
    Skoobasaurus-Rex
    • Oct 2011
    • 22284

    Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

    I was thinking about if we trade him & the injury he had coming into camp, then I thought maybe the team needs to look at placing him on IR to open up a roster spot. If he's hurt & doesn't want to play, why not put him on IR / file a grievance for him coming in injured. Maybe the Bills can recoup some of the monies they have to pay him & see if there's a trade available later this season ?? Maybe we can work out an injury settlement & then honor the request to trade him. Lets come up with some ideas here, brainstorming type.
  • jdaltroy5
    Registered User
    • Aug 2012
    • 3227

    #2
    Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

    Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    I was thinking about if we trade him & the injury he had coming into camp, then I thought maybe the team needs to look at placing him on IR to open up a roster spot. If he's hurt & doesn't want to play, why not put him on IR / file a grievance for him coming in injured. Maybe the Bills can recoup some of the monies they have to pay him & see if there's a trade available later this season ?? Maybe we can work out an injury settlement & then honor the request to trade him. Lets come up with some ideas here, brainstorming type.
    I don't think you can trade a player that is on IR.

    All this will do is show the world what a second rate organization you are.

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    • malvado78
      Registered User
      • Mar 2006
      • 481

      #3
      Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

      Originally posted by jdaltroy5 View Post
      All this will do is show the world what a second rate organization you are.
      As if this hasn't already been shown...

      Playoff drought says hello.

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      • MitchMurrayDowntown
        Skoobasaurus-Rex
        • Oct 2011
        • 22284

        #4
        Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

        Originally posted by jdaltroy5 View Post
        I don't think you can trade a player that is on IR.

        All this will do is show the world what a second rate organization you are.
        Can you do an injury settlement with the player to allow them to leave or be traded ?

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        Originally posted by malvado78 View Post
        As if this hasn't already been shown...

        Playoff drought says hello.
        Yeah, but Byrd has been part of the horrible defense 4 years running.

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        • jdaltroy5
          Registered User
          • Aug 2012
          • 3227

          #5
          Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

          Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
          Can you do an injury settlement with the player to allow them to leave or be traded ?
          An injury settlement just basically releases a player for money.

          You'd be making him a FA and getting nothing out of it.

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          • MitchMurrayDowntown
            Skoobasaurus-Rex
            • Oct 2011
            • 22284

            #6
            Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

            Originally posted by jdaltroy5 View Post
            An injury settlement just basically releases a player for money.

            You'd be making him a FA and getting nothing out of it.
            You'd save money but have no compensation with a draft pick / player, OK well that doesn't make much sense then. The roster spot holds value but Byrd might (stress might) be able to play at some point, so you'd lose out on his services for the whole year. Can we IR him with the ability to designate him to come back later in the season ??
            Last edited by Skooby; 09-05-2013, 12:42 PM.

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            • jdaltroy5
              Registered User
              • Aug 2012
              • 3227

              #7
              Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

              Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
              You'd save money but have no compensation with a draft pick / player, OK well that doesn't make much sense then. The roster spot holds value but Byrd might (stress might) be able to play at some point, so you'd lose out on his services for the whole year. Can we IR him with the ability to designate him to come back later in the season ??
              You can only put one player on the designated to return list. They would be taking a huge risk in using that one spot on a guy that isn't injured.

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              • MitchMurrayDowntown
                Skoobasaurus-Rex
                • Oct 2011
                • 22284

                #8
                Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

                Originally posted by jdaltroy5 View Post
                You can only put one player on the designated to return list. They would be taking a huge risk in using that one spot on a guy that isn't injured.
                How many games is Byrd scheduled to miss due to his injury ? PF takes rest & time to recover, would the IR designation to return give him the amount of time he needs to rest & recover ?? Could we trade him while in that status while opening up a roster spot ?
                Last edited by Skooby; 09-05-2013, 01:05 PM.

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                • jdaltroy5
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3227

                  #9
                  Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

                  Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                  How many games is Byrd scheduled to miss due to his injury ? PF takes rest & time to recover, would the IR designation to return give him the amount of time he needs to rest & recover ?? Could we trade him while in that status while opening up a roster spot ?
                  He can play with PF.

                  And I don't see the purpose of doing all of this to open up a roster spot. We're going to lose one of our best players just so we can sign some no-name from the practice squad?

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                  • MitchMurrayDowntown
                    Skoobasaurus-Rex
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 22284

                    #10
                    Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

                    Originally posted by jdaltroy5 View Post
                    He can play with PF.

                    And I don't see the purpose of doing all of this to open up a roster spot. We're going to lose one of our best players just so we can sign some no-name from the practice squad?
                    IF he can't play for a while (that's being reported), then what ?

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                    • jdaltroy5
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 3227

                      #11
                      Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

                      Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                      IF he can't play for a while (that's being reported), then what ?
                      Dude, I don't know how I can spell this out for you any more clearly.

                      You can play in the NFL with plantar fasciitis.

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                      • GingerP
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1717

                        #12
                        Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

                        If they were to IR him, he would try for an injury settlement. In this case, his injury settlement likely would be his entire salary since it is guaranteed. If he couldn't reach an agreement, he could file a grievance. The NFLPA would likely expedite any grievance since they hate the tag, and his a arbiter would likely give him his entire salary (since it is guaranteed) and grant him his release.

                        So... basically this thread is a stupid idea.

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                        • BLeonard
                          BoB Sabermetrician
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4625

                          #13
                          Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

                          Originally posted by jdaltroy5 View Post
                          You can play in the NFL with plantar fasciitis.
                          Then, that begs the question... Why hasn't he been announced as the starter for Sunday?

                          If what you say is true, then there is zero reason why Byrd should not play on Sunday... He's being paid to play, so he should be out there.

                          -Bill

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                          • MitchMurrayDowntown
                            Skoobasaurus-Rex
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 22284

                            #14
                            Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

                            Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
                            Then, that begs the question... Why hasn't he been announced as the starter for Sunday?

                            If what you say is true, then there is zero reason why Byrd should not play on Sunday... He's being paid to play, so he should be out there.

                            -Bill
                            Don't you bring logic into this, we're trying to defend the honorable Byrd who's working on a trade away from Buffalo.

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                            Originally posted by GingerP View Post
                            If they were to IR him, he would try for an injury settlement. In this case, his injury settlement likely would be his entire salary since it is guaranteed. If he couldn't reach an agreement, he could file a grievance. The NFLPA would likely expedite any grievance since they hate the tag, and his a arbiter would likely give him his entire salary (since it is guaranteed) and grant him his release.

                            So... basically this thread is a stupid idea.
                            So we tie up a roster spot for someone that's not going to play for a while ?

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                            • jdaltroy5
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3227

                              #15
                              Re: Any benefit(s) for the team putting Byrd on IR ??

                              Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
                              Then, that begs the question... Why hasn't he been announced as the starter for Sunday?

                              If what you say is true, then there is zero reason why Byrd should not play on Sunday... He's being paid to play, so he should be out there.

                              -Bill
                              I totally agree with you.

                              I don't like the way the Bills have approached this whole thing, but from a legal standpoint, they have done nothing wrong.

                              If he can play, he should be playing.

                              And I think if he wanted to play, he would be playing.

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