E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

[braddavery]

Of all active QBs who started Week 1 of their rookie seasons, here is where Manuel ranks. The formula is .25 points for every 25 total yards, 1 point for every TD, -1 point for every interception/lost fumble, 2 points for a win and -2 points for a loss...


1. Robert Griffin III 19/26, 320 YDS, 2 TDS, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 9 R, 42 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 362, TD/TO - 2, W/L - W) 7.5
2. Mark Sanchez 18/31, 272 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT, 0 LFS, 5 R, 6 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 278, TD/TO - 0, W/L - W) 4.75
3. Joe Flacco 15/29, 129 YDS, 0 TDS, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 4 R, 37 YDS, 1 TD (YDS - 166, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 4.5
Matt Ryan 9/13, 161 YDS, I TD, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 5 R, -2 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 159, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 4.5
David Carr 10/22, 145 YDS, 2 TDS, 1 INT, 0 LFS, 4 R, 7 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 152, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 4.5
6. Cam Newton 24/37, 422 YDS, 2 TDS, 1 INT, 0 LFS, 8 R, 18 YDS, 1 TD (YDS - 440, TD/TO - 2, W/L - L) 4.25
7. Geno Smith 24/38, 256 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 LF, 6 R, 47 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 303, TD/TO - -1, W/L - W) 4
8. Andy Dalton 10/15, 81 YDS, 1 TD, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 81, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 3.75
9. E.J. Manuel 18/27, 150 YDS, 2 TDS, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 3 R, 23 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 173, TD/TO - 2, W/L - L) 1.5
10. Peyton Manning 21/37, 302 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 302, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -1
11. Sam Bradford 32/55, 253 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 253, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -1.5
Russell Wilson 18/34, 153 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 LF, 8 R, 20 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 173, TD/TO - -1, W/L - L) -1.5
13. Andrew Luck 23/45, 309 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INTS, 1 LF, 2 R, 9 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 318, TD/TO - -3, W/L - L) -2
Matthew Stafford 16/37, 205 YDS, 0 TDS, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 2 R, 0 YDS, 1 TD (YDS - 205, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -2
15. Kyle Orton 15/28, 141 YDS, 0 TDS, 1 INT, 1 LF, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 141, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -2.75
16. Ryan Tannehill 20/36, 219 YDS, 0 TDS, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 3 R, -4 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 215, TD/TO - -3, W/L - L) -3
17. Brandon Weeden 12/35, 118 YDS, 0 TDS, 4 INTS, 0 LFS, 2 R, 25 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 143, TD/TO - -4, W/L - L) -4.75

[braddavery]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

Of all active QBs who started Week 1 of their rookie seasons, here is where Manuel ranks. The formula is .25 points for every 25 total yards, 1 point for every TD, -1 point for every interception/lost fumble, 2 points for a win and -2 points for a loss...


1. Robert Griffin III 19/26, 320 YDS, 2 TDS, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 9 R, 42 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 362, TD/TO - 2, W/L - W) 7.5
2. Mark Sanchez 18/31, 272 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT, 0 LFS, 5 R, 6 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 278, TD/TO - 0, W/L - W) 4.75
3. Joe Flacco 15/29, 129 YDS, 0 TDS, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 4 R, 37 YDS, 1 TD (YDS - 166, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 4.5
Matt Ryan 9/13, 161 YDS, I TD, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 5 R, -2 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 159, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 4.5
David Carr 10/22, 145 YDS, 2 TDS, 1 INT, 0 LFS, 4 R, 7 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 152, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 4.5
6. Geno Smith 24/38, 256 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 LF, 6 R, 47 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 303, TD/TO - -1, W/L - W) 4
7. Andy Dalton 10/15, 81 YDS, 1 TD, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 81, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 3.75
8. Cam Newton 24/37, 422 YDS, 2 TDS, 1 INT, 0 LFS, 8 R, 18 YDS, 1 TD (YDS - 440, TD/TO - 2, W/L - L) 3.25
9. E.J. Manuel 18/27, 150 YDS, 2 TDS, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 3 R, 23 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 173, TD/TO - 2, W/L - L) 1.5
10. Peyton Manning 21/37, 302 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 302, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -1
11. Sam Bradford 32/55, 253 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 253, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -1.5
Russell Wilson 18/34, 153 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 LF, 8 R, 20 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 173, TD/TO - -1, W/L - L) -1.5
13. Andrew Luck 23/45, 309 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INTS, 1 LF, 2 R, 9 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 318, TD/TO - -3, W/L - L) -2
Matthew Stafford 16/37, 205 YDS, 0 TDS, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 2 R, 0 YDS, 1 TD (YDS - 205, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -2
15. Kyle Orton 15/28, 141 YDS, 0 TDS, 1 INT, 1 LF, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 141, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -2.75
16. Ryan Tannehill 20/36, 219 YDS, 0 TDS, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 3 R, -4 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 215, TD/TO - -3, W/L - L) -3
17. Brandon Weeden 12/35, 118 YDS, 0 TDS, 4 INTS, 0 LFS, 2 R, 25 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 143, TD/TO - -4, W/L - L) -4.75

I added Newton's numbers wrong. Edited it here. Not be able to edit on this site blows.

[gr8slayer]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

Good stuff, thanks for sharing.

[Mace]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

Of all active QBs who started Week 1 of their rookie seasons, here is where Manuel ranks. The formula is .25 points for every 25 total yards, 1 point for every TD, -1 point for every interception/lost fumble, 2 points for a win and -2 points for a loss...


1. Robert Griffin III 19/26, 320 YDS, 2 TDS, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 9 R, 42 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 362, TD/TO - 2, W/L - W) 7.5
2. Mark Sanchez 18/31, 272 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT, 0 LFS, 5 R, 6 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 278, TD/TO - 0, W/L - W) 4.75
3. Joe Flacco 15/29, 129 YDS, 0 TDS, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 4 R, 37 YDS, 1 TD (YDS - 166, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 4.5
Matt Ryan 9/13, 161 YDS, I TD, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 5 R, -2 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 159, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 4.5
David Carr 10/22, 145 YDS, 2 TDS, 1 INT, 0 LFS, 4 R, 7 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 152, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 4.5
6. Cam Newton 24/37, 422 YDS, 2 TDS, 1 INT, 0 LFS, 8 R, 18 YDS, 1 TD (YDS - 440, TD/TO - 2, W/L - L) 4.25
7. Geno Smith 24/38, 256 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 LF, 6 R, 47 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 303, TD/TO - -1, W/L - W) 4
8. Andy Dalton 10/15, 81 YDS, 1 TD, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 81, TD/TO - 1, W/L - W) 3.75
9. E.J. Manuel 18/27, 150 YDS, 2 TDS, 0 INTS, 0 LFS, 3 R, 23 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 173, TD/TO - 2, W/L - L) 1.5
10. Peyton Manning 21/37, 302 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 302, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -1
11. Sam Bradford 32/55, 253 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 253, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -1.5
Russell Wilson 18/34, 153 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 LF, 8 R, 20 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 173, TD/TO - -1, W/L - L) -1.5
13. Andrew Luck 23/45, 309 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INTS, 1 LF, 2 R, 9 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 318, TD/TO - -3, W/L - L) -2
Matthew Stafford 16/37, 205 YDS, 0 TDS, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 2 R, 0 YDS, 1 TD (YDS - 205, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -2
15. Kyle Orton 15/28, 141 YDS, 0 TDS, 1 INT, 1 LF, 0 R, 0 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 141, TD/TO - -2, W/L - L) -2.75
16. Ryan Tannehill 20/36, 219 YDS, 0 TDS, 3 INTS, 0 LFS, 3 R, -4 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 215, TD/TO - -3, W/L - L) -3
17. Brandon Weeden 12/35, 118 YDS, 0 TDS, 4 INTS, 0 LFS, 2 R, 25 YDS, 0 TDS (YDS - 143, TD/TO - -4, W/L - L) -4.75

Great stuff indeedy, I wish I'd have seen the post before I looked some of it up to reply in a diff thread.

That's a lotta work.

[TigerJ]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

That tells me a couple things. First, Manuel's first game wasn't half bad. I figured that out myself, but it's nice to be confirmed by some stats. Second, a first game does not predict a career. Manuel beat Andrew Luck, but there's nobody who thinks that Andrew Luck isn't going to have a solid career. By the same token, Mark Sanchez ranks second on that list, and I'll there's not a single Bills fan on this message board who would like to se the Bills acquire Mark Sanchez.

[bdutton]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

Championship!

[Guest]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

EJ's first game was better than expected and a good beginning.

Hopefully he can build on it.

[stuckincincy]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

EJ's first game was better than expected and a good beginning.

Hopefully he can build on it.

Very good - no turnovers, which was reasonably expected. The youngster gets a plus for his first outing.

[justasportsfan]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

thats not bad considering this was supposedly a bad draft for qb's and that Ej should've been a 3rd pick.

Either the experts were wrong about him or Marrone and co. are doing a great job .

[mightysimi]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

This is good though if we are being honest, he should have had 2 int. Both were flat out drops by the DBs. So looks good because they did drop it but I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves.

[mayotm]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

This is good though if we are being honest, he should have had 2 int. Both were flat out drops by the DBs. So looks good because they did drop it but I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves.

Not really. Both would have been pretty good plays by the DB's. If you want to talk drops, it's the Bills WR's that had the drops so EJ's stats could have been better.

[mightysimi]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

Not really. Both would have been pretty good plays by the DB's. If you want to talk drops, it's the Bills WR's that had the drops so EJ's stats could have been better.

That is true we can what if to death but by the stats, it looks like he was almost perfect. Just pointing out that stats don't tell the whole story. The bomb I would have no problems with as it is pretty much a punt but the other one he hit the db in the chest right behind the receiver on the 15ish yard line. I'm not trying to slag on him as I thought he was better than anything we have in a long time but to say with the numbers he will be a QB as good as those others, is a little ambitious.

[braddavery]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

...but to say with the numbers he will be a QB as good as those others, is a little ambitious.

No one said anything of the sort.

[mightysimi]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

No one said anything of the sort.

right a top 10 list was put up with him in the middle of it for no reason.

[braddavery]

Re: E.J. Manuel's first game comparison

right a top 10 list was put up with him in the middle of it for no reason.

It's to show how he compares to other rookie QBs in their Week 1 starts. No assumptions or predictions were made of his future. You read way too much into it. It's just statistics. People can use the info how they like.