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  • cookie G
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    • Mar 2003
    • 7569

    Some Good All 22 Analysis from GR and others.

    I really need to get this sometime.


    Jeremy White from GR

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    This clearly wasn't Spiller's best game. But...he'll come back, I'm confident of that.

    As to the SJ TD....as he points out in the throw...and what we haven't had from a QB in a long time..

    Perhaps most impressive about this throw is Manuel’s body. He didn’t step. He just flicks it to the spot and Johnson hauls it in. It’s an elite throw. All due respect to the last guy, but this is the exact throw that he could not make.


    I was never a Fitz hater...in fact I had a ton of respect for him..becuase I thought he did his best with limited talents (both his and others). But every throw he made took a full wind up. EJ's arm strength and touch continues to impress me.


    From buffalo Rumblings...it wasn't all CJ fault...but he does share some blame

    C.J. Spiller had an ineffective day running the football against the New England Patriots (17 carries, 41 yards) - and we wanted to find out why. The answer isn't simple, but the issues are certainly fixable.


    Another All 22 breakdown of the Woods TD.



    Not much new to say about the play..except this...

    (the thrid picture down)

    The yellow circle is there because you can see Chandler Jones on the ground after Fred Jackson absolutely lit him up w/ a chip block. - See more at: http://yardsperpass.com/?p=271#sthash.6wjD39PC.dpuf

    I love Freddy.
  • Scumbag College
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    • Oct 2002
    • 4949

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    Re: Some Good All 22 Analysis from GR and others.

    Really interesting article and I saw the same thing with CJ vs. Fred. Fred isn't as fast and doesn't have the crazy athletic ability that CJ has, but he found a way consistently on Sunday to find the holes and get 5 or 6 yards a run where CJ seemed to run right into the back of the line. Also, I think that the Pats were really keying on CJ when he was the RB and when Fred was out there they were playing more pass.
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    • BillsImpossible
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      • Mar 2013
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      Re: Some Good All 22 Analysis from GR and others.

      Joe B. and JW had some really good breakdown analysis of the game.

      On CJ, all he has to do is have about half a second more patience and he'll be hitting those gaping holes he missed.

      EJ Manuel is well on his way to becoming an elite NFL QB...he didn't look like a rookie, and he didn't play like a rookie.

      Joe B. thinks the Bills run defense will be much better this year.

      Colin Brown is the team's biggest liability after weak 1.

      Can't wait to get Jairus Byrd back in the lineup!

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      • EDS
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        • Jan 2003
        • 5216

        #4
        Re: Some Good All 22 Analysis from GR and others.

        Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
        Joe B. and JW had some really good breakdown analysis of the game.

        On CJ, all he has to do is have about half a second more patience and he'll be hitting those gaping holes he missed.

        EJ Manuel is well on his way to becoming an elite NFL QB...he didn't look like a rookie, and he didn't play like a rookie.

        Joe B. thinks the Bills run defense will be much better this year.

        Colin Brown is the team's biggest liability after weak 1.

        Can't wait to get Jairus Byrd back in the lineup!
        After one game they can tell EJ is on his way to being an elite QB? Nice crystal ball they have.

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        • Meathead
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          • Jul 2002
          • 21349

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          hes definitely an elite qb. and after his first crappy game he will definitely be a wasted pick
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          • cookie G
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            • Mar 2003
            • 7569

            #6
            Re: Some Good All 22 Analysis from GR and others.

            Originally posted by Scumbag College View Post
            Really interesting article and I saw the same thing with CJ vs. Fred. Fred isn't as fast and doesn't have the crazy athletic ability that CJ has, but he found a way consistently on Sunday to find the holes and get 5 or 6 yards a run where CJ seemed to run right into the back of the line. Also, I think that the Pats were really keying on CJ when he was the RB and when Fred was out there they were playing more pass.
            Spiller basically said he was forcing things. Its going to be tough running against Carolina too, they have put together a pretty good LB corps.

            BTW...the one article mentions Freddy's block on the Woods TD. I have the NFL replay version on DVR and just watched it.

            Freddy de-cleated Chandler Jones. To call it a chip block is like calling Niagara Falls a bit of running water.

            Lifted him off his feet and put him on his ass, and Chandler Jones goes 260-270.

            If I'm OC, I still find a way to get him and Spiller on the field at the same time. Both can run, both can catch. Spiller can go deep or catch a pass in space.

            But Freddie blocks like a mofo. Either picking up a blitzer or as a lead blocker, he hits like a FB.

            With a little imagination, you can come up with some deadly combinations.

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            • TigerJ
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              • Jul 2002
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              I read down through analysis done by both Jeremy White and Joe Buscaglia. They do a nice job of helping us fans understand some of what's going on. You have to figure that Spiller is going to get it turned around. It's less certain that Colin Brown will get a whole lot better. As I understand it, except for his penalty, Cordy Glenn was just about perfect on the day. Pretty good for a guy that lot's of people still want to move inside to guard. Granted, he'd be a great guard, but in theory, it's a lot easier and cheaper to find a decent guard in the NFL than a left tackle.
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              • jimmifli
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                • Nov 2006
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                Re: Some Good All 22 Analysis from GR and others.

                Originally posted by cookie G View Post
                Lifted him off his feet and put him on his ass, and Chandler Jones goes 260-270.

                If I'm OC, I still find a way to get him and Spiller on the field at the same time. Both can run, both can catch. Spiller can go deep or catch a pass in space.

                But Freddie blocks like a mofo. Either picking up a blitzer or as a lead blocker, he hits like a FB.

                With a little imagination, you can come up with some deadly combinations.
                Every time Freddy gets the ball and takes it 8 yards into the secondary I'm disappointed. Disappointed it wasn't CJ that got that hole, because it would have been a TD.

                But CJ doesn't get holes like that.

                Nobody does.

                Freddy is magic, he plods along waiting patiently for the hole to open up, and then he sneaks through makes a few tacklers miss and gets an easy 8 yard gain. If he had CJ's speed he'd be the greatest RB of all time. He's my favorite player and it makes me sad to think he won't ever get to play in a playoff game.

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                • MikeInRoch
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                  • Sep 2003
                  • 10446

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                  One podcast I listen to regularly describes Freddy's running style as "like water". He finds any little crack and seeps through for a gain you didn't think was there.
                  "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

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                  • better days
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                    • Jan 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: Some Good All 22 Analysis from GR and others.

                    Originally posted by MikeInRoch View Post
                    One podcast I listen to regularly describes Freddy's running style as "like water". He finds any little crack and seeps through for a gain you didn't think was there.
                    Which podcast is that Mike? I'd like to give it a listen.

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                    • cookie G
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 7569

                      #11
                      Re: Some Good All 22 Analysis from GR and others.

                      Originally posted by jimmifli View Post
                      Every time Freddy gets the ball and takes it 8 yards into the secondary I'm disappointed. Disappointed it wasn't CJ that got that hole, because it would have been a TD.

                      But CJ doesn't get holes like that.

                      Nobody does.

                      Freddy is magic, he plods along waiting patiently for the hole to open up, and then he sneaks through makes a few tacklers miss and gets an easy 8 yard gain. If he had CJ's speed he'd be the greatest RB of all time. He's my favorite player and it makes me sad to think he won't ever get to play in a playoff game.
                      There's always been some Marcu Allen to his inside running style. Nice glide, forward lean, knows how to adjust without simply bouncing it outside.

                      BTW,

                      The Hit (left side of the O line, Chandler Jones is the RDE).



                      That's what Ronnie Lott used to call a Whew hit because the crowd would go "whew".

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                      • MikeInRoch
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                        • Sep 2003
                        • 10446

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                        It's The Audible, by the guys who do the footballguys.com website. It's really fantasy football focused, but they love Freddie.
                        "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                        "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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                        • OpIv37
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                          • Sep 2002
                          • 101261

                          #13
                          Re: Some Good All 22 Analysis from GR and others.

                          The WGR analysis is a bit one sided- "the play worked but CJ missed the lane or EJ Missed the throw." And he focused on plays where Buffalo at least did something right. I'd rather see what the Bills can do to fix the plays that got completely blown up.

                          Still, I like the breakdown and seeing the design of the plays. I'll definitely be reading that every week.
                          Last edited by OpIv37; 09-12-2013, 10:40 AM.
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                          • MidnightVoice
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                            • Mar 2003
                            • 10788

                            #14
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                            Originally posted by jimmifli View Post
                            He's my favorite player and it makes me sad to think he won't ever get to play in a playoff game.
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                            • stuckincincy
                              Buffalo Bills Fan
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 15084

                              #15
                              Re: Some Good All 22 Analysis from GR and others.

                              Originally posted by cookie G View Post
                              There's always been some Marcus Allen to his inside running style. Nice glide, forward lean, knows how to adjust without simply bouncing it outside.
                              That's high, and deserved praise for Fred. Allen was a marvelous football player. Nice to see his name mentioned.
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