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  • imbondz
    Democrats are people too
    • Jan 2003
    • 26041

    Time of Possession problem

    this is the stat that concerns me more than the penalties on offense.

    We gave the Patriots over an ENTIRE quarter more with the football. And the Panthers got a 1/2 more quarter w/ the ball than we did. That's not good. It was an achilles heel during our '90's runs too.

    Time of Possession:

    Patriots - 37:43
    Bills - 22:17

    Panthers - 33:41
    Bills - 26:19

    This tells me our defense is probably better than we think, and our offense / no huddle game plan mindset won't work long term.
    My faith doesn’t make me perfect, it makes me forgiven.

  • Mr. Miyagi
    Lecter's Little *****

    • Sep 2002
    • 53616

    #2
    Re: Time of Possession problem

    That's the nature of a high speed no huddle offense. As the offense gets better we'll score more points and TOP will mean little.

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    • imbondz
      Democrats are people too
      • Jan 2003
      • 26041

      #3
      Re: Time of Possession problem

      I disagree. Time of Possession always matters. In theory you'd think that'd work, but it doesn't play out that way. Maybe except for the 1999 Rams, but they didn't run a no-huddle offense. They're one of the few exceptions about not needing alot of time on offense to score, but they also had a solid defense.

      We have to learn to have long sustained drives that eat up the clock. so when we need to do it in the 4th Q, we know how.
      My faith doesn’t make me perfect, it makes me forgiven.

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      • justasportsfan
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 71579

        #4
        Re: Time of Possession problem

        if we keep scoring on every possession, I don't think TOP matters because we could be running the ball when we're way ahead.
        sacrifice1
        https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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        • better days
          Registered User
          • Jan 2010
          • 22028

          #5
          Re: Time of Possession problem

          Originally posted by imbondz View Post
          I disagree. Time of Possession always matters. In theory you'd think that'd work, but it doesn't play out that way. Maybe except for the 1999 Rams, but they didn't run a no-huddle offense. They're one of the few exceptions about not needing alot of time on offense to score, but they also had a solid defense.

          We have to learn to have long sustained drives that eat up the clock. so when we need to do it in the 4th Q, we know how.
          Marrone has said the Bills are not concerned with TOP.

          The concerns are scoring points & winning the turnover battle according to Marrone.

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          • imbondz
            Democrats are people too
            • Jan 2003
            • 26041

            #6
            Re: Time of Possession problem

            we're currently last in the NFL. I think it's going to be an issue

            My faith doesn’t make me perfect, it makes me forgiven.

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            • justasportsfan
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 71579

              #7
              Re: Time of Possession problem

              the goal of the offense is to score points. Under Dick Jauron the goal was ball control without scoring.
              sacrifice1
              https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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              • Historian
                2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                • Dec 2002
                • 61722

                #8
                Re: Time of Possession problem

                Originally posted by justasportsfan View Post
                Under Dick Jauron the goal was ball control without scoring.


                So true.

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                • Novacane
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 42352

                  #9
                  Re: Time of Possession problem

                  I'm more concerned with amount of plays they are on the field. Against NE it was bad. Car only had 3 more plays than us. We are going to lose TOP every game when we are not huddling and the other team is.

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                  • jimmifli
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 7827

                    #10
                    Re: Time of Possession problem

                    Originally posted by imbondz View Post
                    we're currently last in the NFL. I think it's going to be an issue

                    http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat...sion-net-of-ot
                    How about offensive plays? You can't score from the huddle!

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                    • IlluminatusUIUC
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 8966

                      #11
                      Re: Time of Possession problem

                      I agree with bondz, I think it's a concern. If you assume the TOP usually evens out to about 30 minutes a piece, we are already 10minutes over that. By week 6 our defense will have played almost an entire extra game at that pace.


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                      • The King
                        Without me it's just Awe so
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 42380

                        #12
                        Re: Time of Possession problem

                        They don't score on that last drive if the no-huddle wasn't such a big part of this offense.
                        I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                        "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                        You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                        It was all
                        true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                        He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                        mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                        • better days
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 22028

                          #13
                          Re: Time of Possession problem

                          Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                          I agree with bondz, I think it's a concern. If you assume the TOP usually evens out to about 30 minutes a piece, we are already 10minutes over that. By week 6 our defense will have played almost an entire extra game at that pace.


                          The Defense can avoid that by getting the ball back for the offense.

                          Force the other team into 3 & out & get off the field.

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                          • imbondz
                            Democrats are people too
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 26041

                            #14
                            Re: Time of Possession problem

                            Originally posted by The King View Post
                            They don't score on that last drive if the no-huddle wasn't such a big part of this offense.
                            So how do Brady, Bree's, Rogers, Manning always do it. No huddle / hurry up should be part of your offense, not the whole thing.
                            My faith doesn’t make me perfect, it makes me forgiven.

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                            • MikeInRoch
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 10446

                              #15
                              Re: Time of Possession problem

                              Because it's always a good idea to look at what other people do instead of trying something different.
                              "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                              "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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