Bad game move on people

[DesertFox24]

I think everyone has been spoiled by the past few rookie sensations none of whom are doing well by the way.

Brady was not Brady Peyton was not Peyton farve not farve their rookie years. Bottom line is this season was not playoff if you think that shame on you. Ej is no luck so stop ej ceiling is top 15 not top 5.

The goal of this season is growth and showing progress and let's all cross our fingers that he does not lose confidence and learns and gets better and better. By week 17 hopefully we see signs like the phins are hoping they saw. Also Russell Wilson was not great early last year he had great d and running game and then e got better.

Bottom line our off is so young and WR so young that they are not on same page like Brady. Jets are not good but when you are playing safeties at corner you should he able to do some things.

This game does not mean anything except we have depth issues on both lines and corner. As well as our rookie qb is probably not going to be a rookie phenom.

Peace

[BuffaloRedleg]

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So I guess we should shut down bills forums. We shouldn't be able to discuss the disaster that was what we just watched and forget it.

We should absolutely expect our QB to outplay the QB WE PASSED OVER.

This wasn't just another game. This was a benchmark game if there ever was one, and we absolutely were disgusting.

We were out-everythinged. Fricken Geno outplayed Manuel. Now, I think that was partly a product of our coaching staff and the lack of preparation for a plan that stretched the field, but who cares at this point?

Next week better be something special. I'm not going to **** around with a QB that can't make normal mid/deep throws, while Geno absolutely can.

[better days]

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Well, the Giants were shut out by the Panthers

The Redskins are 0-3 & Suck

The Eagles SUCK

And so do the Cowboys.

Like I said before, the NFC East is even worse than the AFC East.

[justasportsfan]

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I think everyone has been spoiled by the past few rookie sensations none of whom are doing well by the way.

I was actually spoiled not because of Luck and RGIII but because I was used to having 2 qb's who were acurate at dinking the ball. Now we have a qb that can't dink accurately.

I will move on once Ej shows he can hit 5-10 yards accurately on a conistent basis. Then we'll have a deep ball to worry about next.

[DesertFox24]

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So I guess we should shut down bills forums. We shouldn't be able to discuss the disaster that was what we just watched and forget it.

We should absolutely expect our QB to outplay the QB WE PASSED OVER.

This wasn't just another game. This was a benchmark game if there ever was one, and we absolutely were disgusting.

We were out-everythinged. Fricken Geno outplayed Manuel. Now, I think that was partly a product of our coaching staff and the lack of preparation for a plan that stretched the field, but who cares at this point?

Next week better be something special. I'm not going to **** around with a QB that can't make normal mid/deep throws, while Geno absolutely can.

Geno is not a good QB he tourched our 5th corner and a safety playing corner and safety that is only playing because Bryd got hurt.

It is what is a bad game by a rookie QB and a young off, and we are a team that does not have adequate depth on both lines and the secondary.

Bench mark games, please.

I hate the jets more than any team in the league, I have always hated them even before brady. I root for the pats against the jets that is how much I hate the jets, so this loss is really bitter for me because I cant stand them.

I want to see how this team plays in December and next September.

The phins and Seahawks were bad teams the first season under their new coaches but got better as the season went on, now look at them. The seahawks are best team in the league in Pete's 4th year and the phins are argueably the best team in the east in Joe's second year.

Wow Geno won a game against big deal. I did not want any part of Geno and his turnover machine ways, because if we had any off yesterday we would have won the game.

We have first and second year players all over the field on off and it will take time to adjust and figure things out, and we have a rookie QB who is going to struggle like 99% of other rookie QBs and future HOF QBs.

[TacklingDummy]

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Like I said before, the NFC East is even worse than the AFC East.

Way to out on a limb there. Considering the AFC East has 2 teams 3-0 and the NFC East teams combined only have 3 wins.

[pmoon6]

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So I guess we should shut down bills forums. We shouldn't be able to discuss the disaster that was what we just watched and forget it.

We should absolutely expect our QB to outplay the QB WE PASSED OVER.

This wasn't just another game. This was a benchmark game if there ever was one, and we absolutely were disgusting.

We were out-everythinged. Fricken Geno outplayed Manuel. Now, I think that was partly a product of our coaching staff and the lack of preparation for a plan that stretched the field, but who cares at this point?

Next week better be something special. I'm not going to **** around with a QB that can't make normal mid/deep throws, while Geno absolutely can.

We lost by 7 and mostly on big plays where the reserve corner got smoked. Geno must have thought he was playing at West Virginia still. Some people here act like we got our asses totally kicked. We had a few good drives where we stalled in the redzone and had to settle for field goals, that was the difference IMO. We didn't turn the ball over, although we got lucky not losing both fumbles. A young QB is going to make mistakes and be ineffective against a good defense running different blitz packages. Their corners covered extremely well and it looks like the Jets made a smart move by letting Revis go.

All in all, we tied the game up in the fourth quarter and had a good chance to win if we don't give up the big play. Rogers needs to really work hard to improve. I call this game a learning experience for the coaching staff and the QB. If Manuel completes some of those passes early, the Jets have to loosen and respect the passing game. That didn't happen and their defense could concentrate on the run. Freddie still had a good game averaging 10 yards a carry. I also think the refs got tired of flagging NY as Woods was grabbed, held and interfered with late in the game on a long sideline pattern. Not that that is the reason we lost. Rex Ryan showed his colors with all those penalties. Dirty coach, teaching his players to try to walk the tightrope between fair and foul.

[BuffaloRedleg]

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Geno is not a good QB he tourched our 5th corner and a safety playing corner and safety that is only playing because Bryd got hurt.

It is what is a bad game by a rookie QB and a young off, and we are a team that does not have adequate depth on both lines and the secondary.

Bench mark games, please.

I hate the jets more than any team in the league, I have always hated them even before brady. I root for the pats against the jets that is how much I hate the jets, so this loss is really bitter for me because I cant stand them.

I want to see how this team plays in December and next September.

The phins and Seahawks were bad teams the first season under their new coaches but got better as the season went on, now look at them. The seahawks are best team in the league in Pete's 4th year and the phins are argueably the best team in the east in Joe's second year.

Wow Geno won a game against big deal. I did not want any part of Geno and his turnover machine ways, because if we had any off yesterday we would have won the game.

We have first and second year players all over the field on off and it will take time to adjust and figure things out, and we have a rookie QB who is going to struggle like 99% of other rookie QBs and future HOF QBs.

If a divisional game against a team relatively speaking your equal against the QB you passed over isn't a benchmark game, then I don't know what is.

The whole "he's a rookie he's going to struggle" argument doesn't work here, we were playing against the rookie we passed over! And his coaches unleashed him! And he outplayed our QB!

[jdaltroy5]

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So I guess we should shut down bills forums. We shouldn't be able to discuss the disaster that was what we just watched and forget it.

No, discussion would be great. So far, most of what I've seen today is whiny *****ing.

We should absolutely expect our QB to outplay the QB WE PASSED OVER.

And so far this season, he HAS outplayed Geno.

This wasn't just another game. This was a benchmark game if there ever was one, and we absolutely were disgusting.

How is it a benchmark game? It's the third game of the season.

We were out-everythinged. Fricken Geno outplayed Manuel. Now, I think that was partly a product of our coaching staff and the lack of preparation for a plan that stretched the field, but who cares at this point?

Yeah, we were out everythinged. That's why we lost. When the Pats put a ton of pressure on Smith, he looked a lot worse than Manuel.

Next week better be something special. I'm not going to **** around with a QB that can't make normal mid/deep throws, while Geno absolutely can.

Jesus Christ, some of you guys are ridiculous.

If he doesn't play amazingly in his 4th game, then cut his ass!

The only QB that has consistently played well since his first game recently is Luck. The other guys (Dalton, Kap, Wilson, RGIII, Newton, etc...) have looked like hot garbage at times.

[BuffaloRedleg]

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We lost by 7 and mostly on big plays where the reserve corner got smoked. Geno must have thought he was playing at West Virginia still. Some people here act like we got our asses totally kicked. We had a few good drives where we stalled in the redzone and had to settle for field goals, that was the difference IMO. We didn't turn the ball over, although we got lucky not losing both fumbles. A young QB is going to make mistakes and be ineffective against a good defense running different blitz packages. Their corners covered extremely well and it looks like the Jets made a smart move by letting Revis go.

All in all, we tied the game up in the fourth quarter and had a good chance to win if we don't give up the big play. Rogers needs to really work hard to improve. I call this game a learning experience for the coaching staff and the QB. If Manuel completes some of those passes early, the Jets have to lossen and respect the passing game. That didn't happen and their defense could concentrate on the run. Freddie still had a good game averaging 10 yards a carry. I also think the refs got tired of flagging NY as Woods was grabbed, held and interfered with late in the game on a long sideline pattern. Not that that is the reason we lost. Rex Ryan showed his colors with all those penalties. Dirty coach, teaching his players to try to walk the tightrope between fair and foul.

I hope you are right. This better be a hell of a humbling experience for them. How we managed to lose to a team that had 19 penalties for something like 160 yards is just baffling and embarassing.

[pmoon6]

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If a divisional game against a team relatively speaking your equal against the QB you passed over isn't a benchmark game, then I don't know what is.

The whole "he's a rookie he's going to struggle" argument doesn't work here, we were playing against the rookie we passed over! And his coaches unleashed him! And he outplayed our QB!

haHaHa. If you think Geno Smith overwhelmingly outplayed Manuel, you're the one that's delusional. The Jets won because of their defense. Ours was playing the back ups in the secondary with our two best corners out.

With the rebuild going on you can't expect us to have much depth at any position and we only lost by a touchdown on the road. If you want to dismiss the "Rookie" argument, then you really don't know anything about the game.

[pmoon6]

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I hope you are right. This better be a hell of a humbling experience for them. How we managed to lose to a team that had 19 penalties for something like 160 yards is just baffling and embarassing.

It should be humbling and hopefully will spur the young guys to work harder. I don't expect them to be over .500, but I like what I see. They are fighting and competitive. You can ask for nothing more.

[BuffaloRedleg]

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No, discussion would be great. So far, most of what I've seen today is whiny *****ing.

Fair enough.

And so far this season, he HAS outplayed Geno.

Maybe, but not by enough to make anything conclusive. I think coaching has a lot to do with it, the Jets let Geno play while our staff sticks to the run run pass template too much. Bottom line is Geno is 2/1 and Manuel is 1/2, and our guy was outplayed in the head to head matchup. I'm not saying sell the farm but I feel like I have every reason to be concerned.

How is it a benchmark game? It's the third game of the season.

Similarly talented team, division rival against the QB we passed over to draft our QB. What more do you want?

Yeah, we were out everythinged. That's why we lost. When the Pats put a ton of pressure on Smith, he looked a lot worse than Manuel.

I guess we agree on this point?

Jesus Christ, some of you guys are ridiculous.

If he doesn't play amazingly in his 4th game, then cut his ass!

What? Who is saying cut his ass?

The only QB that has consistently played well since his first game recently is Luck. The other guys (Dalton, Kap, Wilson, RGIII, Newton, etc...) have looked like hot garbage at times.

Fair enough, but in a head to head matchup against the guy we passed over I'd like our QB to perform the better of the two. I feel like that is reasonable, and I feel like it is reasonable to be frustrated that he didn't. I guess I'm a big whiner.

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No, discussion would be great. So far, most of what I've seen today is whiny *****ing.

Fair enough.

And so far this season, he HAS outplayed Geno.

Maybe, but not by enough to make anything conclusive. I think coaching has a lot to do with it, the Jets let Geno play while our staff sticks to the run run pass template too much. Bottom line is Geno is 2/1 and Manuel is 1/2, and our guy was outplayed in the head to head matchup. I'm not saying sell the farm but I feel like I have every reason to be concerned.

How is it a benchmark game? It's the third game of the season.

Similarly talented team, division rival against the QB we passed over to draft our QB. What more do you want?

Yeah, we were out everythinged. That's why we lost. When the Pats put a ton of pressure on Smith, he looked a lot worse than Manuel.

I guess we agree on this point?

Jesus Christ, some of you guys are ridiculous.

If he doesn't play amazingly in his 4th game, then cut his ass!

What? Who is saying cut his ass?

The only QB that has consistently played well since his first game recently is Luck. The other guys (Dalton, Kap, Wilson, RGIII, Newton, etc...) have looked like hot garbage at times.

Fair enough, but in a head to head matchup against the guy we passed over I'd like our QB to perform the better of the two. I feel like that is reasonable, and I feel like it is reasonable to be frustrated that he didn't. I guess I'm a big whiner.

[BleedinGreenNC]

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Geno is not a good QB he tourched our 5th corner and a safety playing corner and safety that is only playing because Bryd got hurt.

It is what is a bad game by a rookie QB and a young off, and we are a team that does not have adequate depth on both lines and the secondary.

Bench mark games, please.

I hate the jets more than any team in the league, I have always hated them even before brady. I root for the pats against the jets that is how much I hate the jets, so this loss is really bitter for me because I cant stand them.

I want to see how this team plays in December and next September.

The phins and Seahawks were bad teams the first season under their new coaches but got better as the season went on, now look at them. The seahawks are best team in the league in Pete's 4th year and the phins are argueably the best team in the east in Joe's second year.

Wow Geno won a game against big deal. I did not want any part of Geno and his turnover machine ways, because if we had any off yesterday we would have won the game.

We have first and second year players all over the field on off and it will take time to adjust and figure things out, and we have a rookie QB who is going to struggle like 99% of other rookie QBs and future HOF QBs.

I will take Genos 2 INT's and the win, over EJ's 8 sacks and a loss any day.

[BuffaloRedleg]

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haHaHa. If you think Geno Smith overwhelmingly outplayed Manuel, you're the one that's delusional. The Jets won because of their defense. Ours was playing the back ups in the secondary with our two best corners out.

With the rebuild going on you can't expect us to have much depth at any position and we only lost by a touchdown on the road. If you want to dismiss the "Rookie" argument, then you really don't know anything about the game.

Well I don't think he was overwhelmingly better or the reason they won, but I certainly think he was the better of the two in this game. I sound like I'm jumping to a lot of conclusions here, but I'm not trying to.