If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

[BillsImpossible]

Last week didn't go as predicted. Once McKelvin went down, I think the defensive game plan got turned on its head. McKelvin was playing great like the number 1 corner the Bills drafted him to be, but then came the injury *****'s bite. The Bills secondary is starting to look like the defensive lineup for the Sabres in 2006 against Carolina in the playoffs.

Gilmore, Byrd, Brooks, and McKelvin are all on the mend.

Over 500 yards of offense given up by the Bills D against the Jets, but Justin Rodgers was responsible for over 200 of those yards. Kid got smoked and had no help.

The Bills secondary, "didn't look bad," against New England. They beat Cam Newton, barely.

With over 6 minutes left on the clock, the Bills were in position to win in New York.

That's a miracle in itself given the circumstance, but I digress.

I thought EJ was going to do, "it," again. "It," didn't happen, but the game was still close. Very close.

Not bad for a rookie QB playing his first NFL road game at the Meadowlands in NYC. The Kid made some horrible throws, but shrugged them off and kept his team in the game by not throwing stupid interceptions. He took 8 sacks, and with a little more seasoning called experience I think EJ is going to be just fine.

The Bills offense put up more points against the Jets defense than the Patriots did.

Just imagine if Stephon Gilmore and Jairus Byrd were on the field for all 3 games.

The 23-21 loss against New England could and should be a 21-16 win with Gilmore and Byrd in the lineup.

The 27-20 loss against the Jets could and should be a 20-13 win for the Bills with these two key players in the game.

The Bills are going to be a good team this year, but not until their secondary is healed.

[OpIv37]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

I don't think we win the Pats game even with Gilmore and Byrd. We only gave up 23 points- the problem was that the O only managed 14 (7 was the turnover returned for a TD).

I think we probably win the Jets game if McKelvin doesn't get hurt and definitely win if Gilmore plays.

I'm tired of Byrd and I'm proceeding under the assumption that he won't play another game in a Bills uni. He'll milk the injury for the year and then walk.

[Oaf]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

I think we probably win the Jets game if McKelvin doesn't get hurt and definitely win if Gilmore plays.

I'm surprised to hear you say that. I'm also surprised we didn't adjust our defense to give Rogers more help over the top when it was clear he was overmatched. It seemed like every time he was burned, he was on an island.

[JoeMama]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

Nope.

No matter how many defensive players are healthy, they can't magically make our offense score points.

Which is what we need.

[BillsImpossible]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

I don't think we win the Pats game even with Gilmore and Byrd. We only gave up 23 points- the problem was that the O only managed 14 (7 was the turnover returned for a TD).

I think we probably win the Jets game if McKelvin doesn't get hurt and definitely win if Gilmore plays.

I'm tired of Byrd and I'm proceeding under the assumption that he won't play another game in a Bills uni. He'll milk the injury for the year and then walk.

That would so suck! If Byrd does that I think he is seriously risking his future in the NFL. He needs to play and demonstrate his capabilities this year. Last year doesn't matter anymore, the NFL is a win now league. And no team is going to give him big money if he simply does not play this year.

After 3 weeks I think Byrd realizes the potential of this defense with him in it. His stock can only rise if he becomes the difference maker, and his stock will only decrease in value if he continues to sit on the sidelines.

Reputation is everything in the NFL.

[stuckincincy]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

I'm surprised to hear you say that. I'm also surprised we didn't adjust our defense to give Rogers more help over the top when it was clear he was overmatched. It seemed like every time he was burned, he was on an island.

Yep. I would have gone as far as putting Graham out on defense. One assumes he knows pass routes, and it certainly would have given the NYJ staff something to think about.

[BillsImpossible]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

Nope.

No matter how many defensive players are healthy, they can't magically make our offense score points.

Which is what we need.

Scoring 20 points against the Jets defense is a lot considering Brady could only put up 13 against them.

Scoring 14 points against a Bill Belichick defense in your first NFL game is a lot of points.

The new Bills offense is only 3 games old. How can anyone criticize an offense that was put in a position and given the opportunity to win every single game so far?

[Crisis]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

Yep. I would have gone as far as putting Graham out on defense. One assumes he knows pass routes, and it certainly would have given the NYJ staff something to think about.

"Hmmm, should we throw at this really ****ty cornerback, or this really ****ty receiver playing cornerback?"

[BillsFever21]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

Scoring 20 points against the Jets defense is a lot considering Brady could only put up 13 against them.

I guess Chad Henne and the Jaguars offense is better then Colin Keapernick and the 49ers offense then. The Jaguars scored 17 points in Seattle while the 49ers got pummeled and only scored 3 points. You can't take one team in a single game and compare it to another in a different game.

[OpIv37]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

That would so suck! If Byrd does that I think he is seriously risking his future in the NFL. He needs to play and demonstrate his capabilities this year. Last year doesn't matter anymore, the NFL is a win now league. And no team is going to give him big money if he simply does not play this year.

After 3 weeks I think Byrd realizes the potential of this defense with him in it. His stock can only rise if he becomes the difference maker, and his stock will only decrease in value if he continues to sit on the sidelines.

Reputation is everything in the NFL.

My working theory is that Byrd was trying to force the Bills' hand to get paid because he's concerned he will never be able to play at the same level again.

I have no proof of that- is just a theory based on the way things worked out.

[BillsImpossible]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

I guess Chad Henne and the Jaguars offense is better then Colin Keapernick and the 49ers offense then. The Jaguars scored 17 points in Seattle while the 49ers got pummeled and only scored 3 points. You can't take one team in a single game and compare it to another in a different game.

I agree, but EJ Manuel is a rookie. The rest are not.

[Goobylal]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

Yes.

[Meathead]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

My working theory is that Byrd was trying to force the Bills' hand to get paid because he's concerned he will never be able to play at the same level again.

I have no proof of that- is just a theory based on the way things worked out.

no then he would have accepted the top five offer the bills were ready to give him

[better days]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

I guess Chad Henne and the Jaguars offense is better then Colin Keapernick and the 49ers offense then. The Jaguars scored 17 points in Seattle while the 49ers got pummeled and only scored 3 points. You can't take one team in a single game and compare it to another in a different game.

Who is to say the Jags offense is not better than the 49ers at this point?

Kaepernick has not had a good game since the first game against Green Bay.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: If Gilmore and Byrd Were Healthy, Would The Bills Be 3-0?

Who is to say the Jags offense is not better than the 49ers at this point?

Kaepernick has not had a good game since the first game against Green Bay.

Is this a joke? Against Kansas City, it took Jax more than 50 minutes to cross their own 40 yard line. Their own 40. Jax has a real chance to be the worst offense in NFL history.