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  • The King
    Without me it's just Awe so
    • Jun 2004
    • 42380

    Bills @ Browns Comparison

    I consider this game a season defining ones for the Buffalo Bills. So far the Bills have stayed with every opponent, making each game matter late into the 4thquarter. As Bills fans we’ve seen this many times, after a big-time win comes a humbling loss making us realize, it’s just more of the same. We keep hearing that this is a new team, that there’s a new mentality. Now they need to show us on the road in Cleveland, against a team that had basically conceded their season.

    Quarterback:
    Look, we don’t know anything about Bobby Hoyer (joke). We know that he was handed the reigns over Jason Campbell, most likely to lose out, but he’s battling and he’s playing well especially since the team has shown no ability to run the ball after trading Trent Richardson.
    EJ Manuel has been criticized the last two weeks, I was actually quite happy with his play against Baltimore, he threw 2 INT’s sure, but both were very forgivable, if people want to see him working the long ball interceptions are part of that development. Browns need to count on Hoyer to win this game, and I don’t think he can do it three weeks in a row. = Bills
    EJ Manuel: 74/130, 856 yards, 5TD – 3INT, QBR 80.2
    Brian Hoyer: 55/92, 590 yards, 5TD – 3INT, QBR 83.2

    Running back:
    Both Fred Jackson and CJ Spiller are expected to play at less than 100% on Thursday night, Cleveland has the 6th ranked rushing defense. What can we expect? Is this going to be like the Jets game or the Baltimore game? (Both defenses ranked in the top ten when facing the Bills) I think it will be somewhere in the middle, I think we’ll see each back pick up about 60 yards or so, and I think we’ll see CJ find the endzone for the first time in 2013. On the opposite side of the field Willis McGahee is still trying to get into rhythm with the Browns offense I expect we will continue to see him improve but this matchup favors the Bill. = Bills
    Fred Jackson: 48/256 yards, 5.3YPC, 2TD’s
    Willis McGahee: 23/55 yards, 2.4YPC, 0 TD’s

    Wide Receivers/Tight ends:
    Robert Woods and Scott Chandler are getting better every week, TJ Graham had a huge play to set the tempo for the Bills against Baltimore and Stevie Johnson was almost shutout. We’re seeing inconsistencies in Manuel and that carries down to his receivers. In Cleveland it’s all about Jordan Cameron. No team has found an answer for him yet. Josh Gordon is the other big name in the Dog Pound, but it’s Davone Bess who worries me. I expect him to have a similar game that Tedd Ginn had just a few weeks ago in Buffalo. = Browns
    Jordan Cameron: 30/360 yards, 5 TD
    Stevie Johnson: 18/235 yards, 2 TD
    Josh Gordon: 14/217 yards, 1 TD
    Robert Woods: 11/201 yards, 2 TD
    Oline:
    Cleveland has allowed 17 sacks this year, allowing that kind of pressure has resulted in 6 INT’s. The Bills have allowed 13 sacks, 8 of them coming against the Jets. Both teams have faced four solid defenses, but the Browns inability to run the ball has me leaning to the Bills on this one. =Bills
    Dline/LBers:
    The Browns are led by DE Desmond Bryant and LBer’s D’Qwell Jackson & Barkevious Mingo. Their front seven can get after your QB and are sure tacklers in the run game. The Bills have had great success up the middle lately with Darues and Williams, where the play from the Outside/End position has been up and down. Kiko Alonso has shown to have the right instincts and has become a fan favorite overnight. A defining game for both groups, so I’ll call this one a draw. = Tie

    Defensive backs:
    What a difference a week makes. Aaron Williams versatility was a huge factor in why the Bills were able to squeak out a win over the Ravens. With question marks all over the secondary again (Byrd, McKelvin) Williams is going to need to step it up again. This Browns secondary is almost always in perfect position, it’s going to take some good throws and some play-action to take advantage of this group. I feel wrong doing this after a 5 INT game, but Browns win this battle. = Browns

    Coaching:
    Memo from the front office to Rob Chudzinski: You’re messing it up!
    Both rookie coaches come into this game at 2-2, Chudzinski, beat MIN on the road and CIN at home, and Marrone has 2 home wins and a loss at NYJ.
    Chudzinski got the Cleveland job from his success in working with Cam Newton. After being hired as head coach, he brought with him Norv Turner who he worked under in San Diego as a TE coach and Ray Horton who was a hot head coaching prospect in his own right working under Whisenhunt in AZ.
    Both coaches are well supported but I give Cleveland the edge. = Browns
    Last edited by The King; 10-02-2013, 12:27 PM.
    I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
    "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
    You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
    It was all
    true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
    He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
    mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


  • Thurmal
    Registered User
    • Oct 2005
    • 2412

    #2
    Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

    The Bills are playing at night, on the road, against a good defense. This almost always equals a loss for them.
    "Miami played pretty damn good today and still got their ass kicked."

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    • Pinkerton Security
      Pinkerton's son
      • Feb 2006
      • 6003

      #3
      Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

      "but it’s Davone Bess who worries me. I expect him to have a similar game that Tedd Ginn had just a few weeks ago in Buffalo. = Browns"

      I can certainly understand taking their WRs/TEs over ours, but this sentence doesnt make any sense to me...Ginn is a pure speed receiver, and Bess is a pure route runner underneath...I dont see the connection at all. If anything I'd expect Josh Gordon to make plays down the field like Ginn did.

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      • The King
        Without me it's just Awe so
        • Jun 2004
        • 42380

        #4
        Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

        Originally posted by NaturalBornSpiller View Post
        "but it’s Davone Bess who worries me. I expect him to have a similar game that Tedd Ginn had just a few weeks ago in Buffalo. = Browns"

        I can certainly understand taking their WRs/TEs over ours, but this sentence doesnt make any sense to me...Ginn is a pure speed receiver, and Bess is a pure route runner underneath...I dont see the connection at all. If anything I'd expect Josh Gordon to make plays down the field like Ginn did.
        I was comparing more to a match-up sense than a style. Against Carolina, Bills had to focus on Olsen and Smith... Ginn got the best match-up and exploited it. Tomorrow it's going to focused on Cameron and Gordon and Bess will get the better of Rogers, he's also had some pretty solid games against Buffalo in the past. 40 catches and about 350 yards receiving.
        I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
        "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
        You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
        It was all
        true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
        He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
        mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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        • GingerP
          Registered User
          • Aug 2012
          • 1717

          #5
          Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

          I think the Brown's front-7 is better than the Bills. Phil Taylor is ridiculous inside. They also have Rubin, Bryant, Sheard, Mingo, Jackson, Kruger. That is a bunch of really good players up front, and they are better overall than the Bills.

          The Browns are the NFL's 3rd ranked defense. They are especially good against the run and the Bills are going to have to throw the ball to win.
          Last edited by GingerP; 10-02-2013, 10:39 AM.

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          • SquishDaFish
            Lets GO BUFFALO!!
            • Jun 2005
            • 17034

            #6
            Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

            I think he means in terms of production not type of play

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            • EDS
              Registered User
              • Jan 2003
              • 5216

              #7
              Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

              Here's to hoping Gragg can develop like Cameron! What a great pick by the Browns and great job developing him.

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              • The King
                Without me it's just Awe so
                • Jun 2004
                • 42380

                #8
                Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

                Originally posted by EDS View Post
                Here's to hoping Gragg can develop like Cameron! What a great pick by the Browns and great job developing him.
                Here's hoping the Bills can find an answer to Cameron.
                I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                It was all
                true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                • better days
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 22028

                  #9
                  Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

                  I saw a by the numbers by the Browns & they give the Bills the advantage & predict the Bills to win.

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                  • The King
                    Without me it's just Awe so
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 42380

                    #10
                    Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

                    Originally posted by better days View Post
                    I saw a by the numbers by the Browns & they give the Bills the advantage & predict the Bills to win.
                    I'm optimistic of a Bills win but I am also 2-2 in the prediction game, so I omitted my prediction this week.
                    I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                    "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                    You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                    It was all
                    true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                    He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                    mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                    • TacklingDummy
                      Unreachable Douche
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71725

                      #11
                      Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

                      So undrafted Brian Hoyer (who?) has better stats in 2 games with a less talented team than our 1st round pick with weapons like Jackson, Johnson, Spiller, Woods, and Chander, does in 4 games.

                      Sweet.

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                      • Meathead
                        Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 21349

                        #12
                        Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

                        yes but can cj and freddie handle a 120 carry load?
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                        • The King
                          Without me it's just Awe so
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 42380

                          #13
                          Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

                          Originally posted by Meathead View Post
                          yes but can cj and freddie handle a 120 carry load?
                          Good catch.
                          I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                          "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                          You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                          It was all
                          true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                          He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                          mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                          • BuffaloRedleg
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1270

                            #14
                            Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

                            Originally posted by TacklingDummy View Post
                            So undrafted Brian Hoyer (who?) has better stats in 2 games with a less talented team than our 1st round pick with weapons like Jackson, Johnson, Spiller, Woods, and Chander, does in 4 games.

                            Sweet.

                            Cameron has a lot to do with that. The guy is playing far better than anyone on our team other than Alonso. He is absolutely unstoppable out there. Hoyer has also been in the league for longer than 4 games and studied behind Tom Brady and in Belicheck's system.

                            Once again you show a complete inability to perform basic analysis of anything.
                            Last edited by BuffaloRedleg; 10-02-2013, 02:04 PM.

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                            • The King
                              Without me it's just Awe so
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 42380

                              #15
                              Re: Bills @ Browns Comparison

                              Originally posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
                              Cameron has a lot to do with that. The guy is playing far better than anyone on our team other than Alonso. He is absolutely unstoppable out there. Hoyer has also been in the league for longer than 4 games and studied behind Tom Brady and in Belicheck's system.

                              Once again you show a complete inability to perform basic analysis of anything.
                              His "worst" production of the season was against BAL where he had 5 catches for 95 yards

                              The Bills have surrendered just 161 yards to opposing tight ends this season
                              Last edited by The King; 10-02-2013, 02:10 PM.
                              I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                              "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                              You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                              It was all
                              true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                              He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                              mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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