Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

[Oaf]

EJ (& co.) did near nothing in the first half, despite the defense forcing several punts. I don't know whether to blame Hackett, EJ, the receivers for not getting open, or Levit- er, Colin Brown for not opening holes, but the offense STUNK again.

The first TD was a gimme due to a PI on a gadget play and a Leonard return.
Another tame 2-minute drill.
A single long sprint by CJ
A huge conversion by Choice

Beyond a couple YAC plays by Wood, the above summarizes our offense for the night. Flat as all heck. There's no basis to think it would have turned any different had Manuel continued to play. He's missing the "it" factor (IMO), though now we might not find out if he can improve for another couple weeks (again).

We lost this game in the first half, not at the pick-6. Say Tuel sucks if you want, but offense like this is not going to win many games anyway.

[Owen DeBoard]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

The Bills rushing for 155 yards against a very good Cleveland D says that they were playing good on offence.

[kingJofNYC]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

Offensively we are a team without an identity. We can't run in shotgun and when we run under center with Smith and Summers teams stack the box since both are useless as receivers.

need to be able to run and pass from same formations. Also need better QB play, holding us back like always

[Goobylal]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

Yeah and all those yards and the score on punt returns meant nothing? Get out of here!

[Oaf]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

Also need better QB play, holding us back like always

How many one-hops, wide throws, behind throws do we have to see? I always catch myself feeling bad for Woods and WRs when they get slammed for waiting on a late ball. And these 10-yard out misses? Todd Collins could lace up now and make those throws.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

Plenty of room on my EJ sucks bandwagon.

[mjt328]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

Maybe we still lose with Manuel playing.

Without him, we had no chance... and everyone on the field knew it.

[trapezeus]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

the offense is hit or miss. and they miss a lot. it's always a big play that gets the drive completed. you can't trust them to wear down a team consistently. frankly, the bills need a team that can consistently run 5-10 plays a drive more than it needs to hit 3-4 homerun type plays. because if you are doing things well consistently, you are wearing down the other team.

As it stands now, the other team knows the 3-4 run plays we have, and they feel comfortable that EJ can't deliver and accurate pass. maybe the game will slow down for EJ and he'll set his feet, but he's not there yet.

if he misses any length of time, it's going to be really annoying. he needs to keep playing so that things do slow down for him. if he misses two weeks, it'll just look the same when he gets back.

[JoeMama]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

F-Jax was great. Even his penalty for taunting was hilarious. What a subtle dick move. I loved it.

Alonso was great.

Everything else kind of sucked. Especially when you consider that Brandon Weedon beat us. That kid is awful.

[Thurmal]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

I thought EJ was rough the first 4 games, but he was getting into a groove today, especially with Woods. When he went out, the Browns could just tee off on Tuel. I am not a homer by any means, but if the Bills didn't have every damn good player on offense knocked out, they could've pulled it out.

[justasportsfan]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

The Bills rushing for 155 yards against a very good Cleveland D says that they were playing good on offence.

imagine how much better the running game would be if we had a passing game that made defenses back off the LOS?

[colin]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

we would have had a shot at least.

keep in mind, we weren't down EJ on O.

we were down EJ, spiller, jackson, and steve johnson. Ej is the biggest lost (because our back up is not NFL ready) but those are our playmakers. Put them back in and our missing secondary on O, and we are a punter away from being a really solid. team.

i figure 7-9 is in the cards

[PTI]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

The Bills could run the ball. I guess all those runs up the middle are to setup some of the other plays. They could move the ball.

Cleveland guess right on a few plays, like the play they wanted Sanders on a short flip pass and EJ got hit.

[RedEyE]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

The offense was just starting to gain momentum and find a rhythm. Then enters Tuel who could make the right read (except for pick 6) but can't throw the ball.

[WagonCircler]

Re: Before you say, "If EJ plays, we win."

What a subtle dick move. I loved it.

What did he do? I was at the game but it happened at the far end of the field and I couldn't see it.