Morris Claiborne?

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  • IlluminatusUIUC
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    • Sep 2012
    • 8966

    Morris Claiborne?

    Word is that Dallas' switch from an attacking 3-4 to a Tampa 2 has really screwed over Morris Claiborne - their Top 6 pick from 2012. So much so that they benched him over it. If Dallas is committing to this new scheme, maybe we can talk them into dealing Claiborne to us? We run a scheme not far removed from the one he was drafted for. I think this could be a good buy low opportunity.

    Thoughts?


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  • clumping platelets

    #2
    Re: Morris Claiborne?

    Byrd for Claiborne

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    • IlluminatusUIUC
      Registered User
      • Sep 2012
      • 8966

      #3
      Re: Morris Claiborne?

      Originally posted by clumping platelets View Post
      Byrd for Claiborne
      ...Honestly that makes a lot of sense for both teams.

      The same cover 2 that made Claiborne expendable made Byrd a superstar.
      Last edited by IlluminatusUIUC; 10-05-2013, 01:22 AM.


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      • YardRat
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        • Dec 2004
        • 86262

        #4
        Re: Morris Claiborne?

        I would do that trade.
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        • tampabay25690
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          • Feb 2004
          • 9670

          #5
          Re: Morris Claiborne?

          Originally posted by clumping platelets View Post
          Byrd for Claiborne
          Sign me. Up!!!
          GO Gators!!!!!!
          GO GATORS!!

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          • jamze132
            Don’t hate…
            • Jun 2003
            • 29379

            #6
            Re: Morris Claiborne?

            Byrd and a 3rd for Claiborne

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            • RedEyE
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              • Jul 2002
              • 24661

              #7
              Re: Morris Claiborne?

              I actually think that makes a ton of sense.

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              • better days
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                • Jan 2010
                • 22028

                #8
                Re: Morris Claiborne?

                I'm on board. Give Whaley a call.

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                • Mr. Miyagi
                  Lecter's Little *****

                  • Sep 2002
                  • 53616

                  #9
                  Re: Morris Claiborne?

                  OK do it already!

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                  • DBrown77
                    Watching the Bills suck since 1999
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 1285

                    #10
                    Re: Morris Claiborne?

                    He's been injured a lot and pretty much a bust

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                    • mayotm
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 2333

                      #11
                      Re: Morris Claiborne?

                      Are there rumors out there that Dallas is looking to move Claiborne? Or are we just playing make believe?

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                      • RedEyE
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 24661

                        #12
                        Re: Morris Claiborne?

                        Yeah, just some message board make believe to pass the time. But it really makes sense for both teams.

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                        • GingerP
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                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1717

                          #13
                          Re: Morris Claiborne?

                          Dallas hasn't been playing a lot of Tampa-2. They have been mixing it up more this year. Claiborne has struggled this year independent of scheme, although he has been playing through a shoulder injury.

                          One reason this would be difficulty is the cap. Dallas is tight up against the cap, with $1.673M in cap room. Trading Claiborne would save them about $797,150 in pro-rated salary for this year, but $5,175,069 in future bonus pro-ration would accelerate and hit their cap. They would have to accept Byrd's remaining tender on top of that. They have very little wiggle room left to make cap room, since they already restructured a bunch of contracts to deal with the penalty the league gave them that took away cap room.

                          In short, the cap makes this virtually impossible. Beyond that, they would be trading a guy they drafted in the first round after 1 season for a player they wouldn't control beyond this year. It makes no sense for them.

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                          • GingerP
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1717

                            #14
                            Re: Morris Claiborne?

                            Originally posted by RedEyE View Post
                            Yeah, just some message board make believe to pass the time. But it really makes sense for both teams.
                            It doesn't make sense for Dallas. They don't have the cap to make it happen, as they would absorb a big hit for Claiborne and then take on Byrd, and they would be giving up on a 1st round pick after one year for a guy they won't control beyond this season. Claiborne may be struggling, but the inability to sign Byrd to an extension kills his value.

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                            • X-Era
                              What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 27670

                              #15
                              Re: Morris Claiborne?

                              Seriously?

                              We have a #1 CB and a solid #2 CB (when healthy) which appears to be the next game or the one after. Furthermore, Byrd is finally about to play.

                              So we should trade our top S (and DB for that matter) for the 6th overall player at that contract size to be our #3 CB or at best our #2 CB?

                              Claiborne's deal:

                              4 at 16.265 fully guaranteed.

                              Besides, Dallas gave up a 1st and 2nd to move up for him and now after 1 year and the early part of this season they're going to dump him?

                              We would be trading for the 6th overall player at 6th overall pay you better be getting a proven #1 CB. We already have that.

                              Trade a mid round pick for a solid young #2 or #3 proven CB. I'd say sign one but there isn't one out there.

                              I can't see trading a strength (when Byrd is on the field) for a luxury. If we want the guy, trade a pick for him. I'm alright with that. Why not have Byrd as either a player or trade asset, and Claiborne. Because the quality of the pick will be based on his play. That may not go above a 3rd rounder despite what Dallas may want. Even then we'd still be paying 6th overall money for a guy that apparently isn't earning it.

                              3.6 mill cap hit for him.

                              Last edited by X-Era; 10-05-2013, 11:18 AM.

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