It's time to start trading our players away

[Skooby]

I love the effort yesterday but we're going nowhere, let other teams that might succeed start giving us draft picks for our "talent". Byrd needs to depart, I wouldn't pay him a nickel if I was in charge. Hughes is a worthless individual, take a 7th if we can. Send Fred Jackson out for a 3rd-4th, heart of the team isn't getting younger.


We need to rebuild now, even Spiller can take his sensitive toes to a new team for the right price. It's all on the table, who wants some ??


PS Past KC, the ticket sales are over this year. Nobody is going to sit in the cold to watch a losing team, 13+ years a running.

[Dr. Lecter]

What?

[better days]

This thread has to be one of your WORST Mitch.

[Skooby]

I'm a believer that the team is holding weak cards right now, you witnessed how far we are from winning it all yesterday right ?? It's not one or two guys, it's a dozen. They aren't going to come to us in FA either.

[Dying_-2-_Live]

Dude, you want to get rid of arguably one of, if not THE best offensive player we have? This team has many problems. But Im pretty sure Freddy and bench grinder Jerry Hughes are not our problems.

[Pinkerton Security]

Go away.

Did you think we had much of a shot against the Saints with Thad Lewis starting at QB, our best playmaker out, our backup RB at about 80% or less, etc etc etc...we are headed in the right direction. I can agree with shipping off Byrd, hes gone anyways, but we are already in rebuilding mode, why re-start a rebuilding process when its not even complete?

[Skooby]

Go away.

Did you think we had much of a shot against the Saints with Thad Lewis starting at QB, our best playmaker out, our backup RB at about 80% or less, etc etc etc...we are headed in the right direction. I can agree with shipping off Byrd, hes gone anyways, but we are already in rebuilding mode, why re-start a rebuilding process when its not even complete?

We need draft picks, trading back only goes so far.

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Go away.

Did you think we had much of a shot against the Saints with Thad Lewis starting at QB, our best playmaker out, our backup RB at about 80% or less, etc etc etc...we are headed in the right direction. I can agree with shipping off Byrd, hes gone anyways, but we are already in rebuilding mode, why re-start a rebuilding process when its not even complete?

I want to win & we had no chance to win, that's why we need to change our players.

[trapezeus]

Darcy? is that you?

[don137]

I really think the difference between the Saints and Bills was QB. Overall I felt Buffalo is a better team than New Orleans if you take the QBs out of the equation. No need to get rid of players.

We have a few holes but so does every team. This team needs good play out of its QB. Lewis will never be a good QB. No one knows for certain about Manuel. If Manuel can be a good QB this will be a good team.

[Luisito23]

I would've thought by now that people stopped taking this guy seriously....

Putting him on ignore is one of the best things you can do.

[Skooby]

Darcy? is that you?

I'd fire myself if I were him.

[Skooby]

I really think the difference between the Saints and Bills was QB. Overall I felt Buffalo is a better team than New Orleans if you take the QBs out of the equation. No need to get rid of players.

We have a few holes but so does every team. This team needs good play out of its QB. Lewis will never be a good QB. No one knows for certain about Manuel. If Manuel can be a good QB this will be a good team.

Plus 2 real WRs & a tight end on offense, Stevie gutting it out made my nearly vomit. Dan D is like oh what a player to guy it out, yeah how about being healthy enough to play so we can win. Excuses don't win game, players win games.

[better days]

Plus 2 real WRs & a tight end on offense, Stevie gutting it out made my nearly vomit. Dan D is like oh what a player to guy it out, yeah how about being healthy enough to play so we can win. Excuses don't win game, players win games.

A healthy Stevie would not have won the game yesterday.

A healthy EJ might have.

But it would be STUPID to trade Hughes or Fred. Chances are the player you draft with the pick you get for either would not be as good as either.

And I doubt you could get a 3rd or 4th for a 30 year old Fred Jackson. Hell, we only got a 4th for Lynch.

[The King]

SPAM. And we're trading you to the Range.

[Skooby]

SPAM. And we're trading you to the Range.
LOL, classic.

[Famous Amos]

SPAM. And we're trading you to the Range.
we had a guy over there named Scooby who sounds an awful lot like Mitch lol

[justasportsfan]

We need to rebuild now

I agree. We need to draft a qb ,get a new coach and a new GM. The ones we have had their time.


Just say no to drugs!!!

[TedMock]

You do realize that Hughes is actually having a very good season, right? This team has problems, but pressure from Hughes is not one of them. If you're talking about that one play where Hughes, a 255 lbs pass rushing LB, was left chasing Kenny Stills, the 4.34 40 speed WR down the sideline, then you are right. He will always be useless in that effort. I don't think it was supposed to be his coverage though. Somebody blew an assignment and Hughes was left chasing as the next closest guy.

Thad Lewis' protecting the ball and inaccuracy were the huge issues. Also, Drew Brees' ability to throw darts past Robey's earhole was impressive. Rodgers did the same last night in his TD pass to Jordy Nelson. We have to hope that EJ is able to develop that type of accuracy, or at least something remotely close to that. I love love Lewis' toughness and I think he's a fun backup that adds a slight change of pace, but the mental farts are not inspiring. He's tough and takes shots, but many are his own fault.

[sukie]

WHere is Not the Dude? This thread needs his sensibility.

[Jeff1220]

This isn't baseball.

[bdutton]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1761101/all-is-well-o.gif

[Dr. Lecter]

we had a guy over there named Scooby who sounds an awful lot like Mitch lol


yes and Clark Kent sounds a lot like Superman. Or Bruce Wayne sounds like Batman

[SquishDaFish]

Skooby your am idiot

[Skooby]

When we trade some players away in the next day or so, the song will change here & then everyone will come to grips with what's in front of us.

[HAMMER]

Why did I bother?

[IlluminatusUIUC]

The Bills have been so bad at retaining talent for so long that we aren't sitting on a ton of older guys worth shipping out. We have a whopping 5 players on this team over 30, and two of them were signed this year as fill-ins. There's zero point in dealing out a 25 year old like Hughes for a pick.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

And we're trading you to the Range.

We'd probably only get junglesouljah back or something.

[Victor7]

We'd probably only get junglesouljah back or something.

I've only been here for a few days but I've already seen one poster that fits the total homer mold that jungle so adequately fills. So no need to trade for him.


This thread is not very good. Why would we trade away young players for picks that may or may not turn into players. Is the OP a troll ??

[HAMMER]

Yes.

[mjt328]

What "dozen" players need to be replaced for us to be a playoff team?

Assuming EJ Manuel develops into a solid franchise QB... I see LG (Legursky) and WLB (Moats) as our only real weak spots in the starting lineup. I think we also need another playmaker at WR or TE, a better pass rusher opposite Mario, and some depth at CB. I would also consider options for upgrading Urbik and Pears, but both guys are solid.

Those are holes that can be fixed in a single offseason. Your plan is to trade away the strongest part of our team (both RBs), dump our Pro Bowl safety and get rid of a good pass-rush specialist for a 7th rounder?

[Mr. Pink]

Unless you can trade a plethora of stuff for a real QB, there's no point.

What are you gonna do, make a bunch of lateral moves that are meaningless?

[BertSquirtgum]

I love the effort yesterday but we're going nowhere, let other teams that might succeed start giving us draft picks for our "talent". Byrd needs to depart, I wouldn't pay him a nickel if I was in charge. Hughes is a worthless individual, take a 7th if we can. Send Fred Jackson out for a 3rd-4th, heart of the team isn't getting younger.


We need to rebuild now, even Spiller can take his sensitive toes to a new team for the right price. It's all on the table, who wants some ??


PS Past KC, the ticket sales are over this year. Nobody is going to sit in the cold to watch a losing team, 13+ years a running.

Dumb dee dumb dumb dee dumb. dumb

[Night Train]

WHere is Not the Dude? This thread needs his sensibility.
He has probably posted 8 times already in this thread.

You do realize there are only 40 actual posters left on this board, each using 25 aliases.

I'm so alone.

[BertSquirtgum]

Aliases should be banned.

[Skooby]

They want to trade Byrd away for a younger player.

[JCBills]

They want to trade Byrd away for a younger player.

He's all of 27.

[Skooby]

He's all of 27. We're 3-5 & Byrd is taking up space.

[Dr. Lecter]

We're 3-5 & Byrd is taking up space.

What space?

You are taking up space too, fwiw

[JCBills]

We're 3-5 & Byrd is taking up space.

So unload players for picks because that will help them win games now, right?

Crikey.

[Skooby]

So unload players for picks because that will help them win games now, right?

Crikey.

Getting a younger / healthier player is not a bad idea.

[Beebe's Kid]

Skooby your am idiot
Perfect. I want to say that I hope you realized what you typed, but it doesn't even matter.

The Bills aren't smart enough to get rid of high priced talent...just players that will be high priced because they have talent. The people that are on their second contract are demigods on a perennial 6 win team. You can't trade them...

[Skooby]

We need to replace all the older "talent" with younger talent by player trade or draft picks, that's the mindset at OBD. You heard it here first & I'm getting ripped for it. NFL network reported it as well, a 27 year old pro bowler is too old right now & we want a younger talent. How does that fair for a 33 year old (RB) Fred Jackson you ask? How many 33 YO starting RBs are playing right now?


Publicly it's all love but privately the Bills want to get younger as reported, shooting the messenger doesn't change these facts. Would you rather have a 23 year old very talented guy at their position or a 33 YO RB? Which will last longer or give you more years at their position? The desire to become younger is a organizational effort, we're the 3rd youngest team in case you missed it.

[Night Train]

Give it up, Darcy Jr.

[Forward_Lateral]

SPAM. And we're trading you to the Range.

For a bag of burnt turds.

[stuckincincy]

For a bag of burnt turds.

They are only $9.00 at the stadium concession stands!

[better days]

We need to replace all the older "talent" with younger talent by player trade or draft picks, that's the mindset at OBD. You heard it here first & I'm getting ripped for it. NFL network reported it as well, a 27 year old pro bowler is too old right now & we want a younger talent. How does that fair for a 33 year old (RB) Fred Jackson you ask? How many 33 YO starting RBs are playing right now?


Publicly it's all love but privately the Bills want to get younger as reported, shooting the messenger doesn't change these facts. Would you rather have a 23 year old very talented guy at their position or a 33 YO RB? Which will last longer or give you more years at their position? The desire to become younger is a organizational effort, we're the 3rd youngest team in case you missed it.

WHY would any team trade any VALUE for an OLD Fred Jackson?

And if you can't get VALUE for him, why trade him?

[Skooby]

Skooby your am idiot
LOL, this is a classic.

[SquishDaFish]

Perfect. I want to say that I hope you realized what you typed, but it doesn't even matter.

The Bills aren't smart enough to get rid of high priced talent...just players that will be high priced because they have talent. The people that are on their second contract are demigods on a perennial 6 win team. You can't trade them...

Yea I noticed too late. that's what I get for responding on my phone

[stuckincincy]

LOL, this is a classic.

HEY! Not everybody can be an Alvin Einstein. :chair:

[feldspar]

We need to replace all the older "talent" with younger talent by player trade or draft picks, that's the mindset at OBD. You heard it here first & I'm getting ripped for it. NFL network reported it as well, a 27 year old pro bowler is too old right now & we want a younger talent. How does that fair for a 33 year old (RB) Fred Jackson you ask? How many 33 YO starting RBs are playing right now?


Publicly it's all love but privately the Bills want to get younger as reported, shooting the messenger doesn't change these facts. Would you rather have a 23 year old very talented guy at their position or a 33 YO RB? Which will last longer or give you more years at their position? The desire to become younger is a organizational effort, we're the 3rd youngest team in case you missed it.

The Bills are already the third youngest team in the league. They privately "want to get younger" according to whose imagination? There are only five players over 28 on the active roster.

And nobody is getting rid of Freddie. Don't be stupid. Not only is he still a very good player, but he brings SO much more to the table in terms of leadership, heart, attitude, and other intangibles. He's an excellent influence to the other players on this team. They elected him Captain.

[BillsFever21]

As much as I like Fred if somebody came calling with a 3rd round pick I would take it. He isn't getting any younger and each year the RB is losing a step or is more injury prone. It feels like it's only a matter of time before he's done for the season like the past two years. Nobody would offer a 3rd round pick for him unless they were desperate for a RB this season though.

We could use that extra 3rd round pick to draft a RB to compliment Spiller next year and possibly be his replacement if we don't re-sign him. I would miss Jackson but on a team that isn't going anywhere this season it would make sense if somebody offered it. He just doesn't fit into any long-term plans with his age and his time is almost up. It would never happen though.

[better days]

As much as I like Fred if somebody came calling with a 3rd round pick I would take it. He isn't getting any younger and each year the RB is losing a step or is more injury prone. It feels like it's only a matter of time before he's done for the season like the past two years. Nobody would offer a 3rd round pick for him unless they were desperate for a RB this season though.

We could use that extra 3rd round pick to draft a RB to compliment Spiller next year and possibly be his replacement if we don't re-sign him. I would miss Jackson but on a team that isn't going anywhere this season it would make sense if somebody offered it. He just doesn't fit into any long-term plans with his age and his time is almost up. It would never happen though.

Well, except the trade deadline has come & gone.

NO trades now until the season is over.

[DynaPaul]

HEY! Not everybody can be an Alvin Einstein. :chair:

According to Theissman it's Norman Einstein, lol.

[Ginger Vitis]

Did Skooby say "we need more draft picks trading back only goes so far" lol classic skooby the logic is so bad and contradictory its great

[kishoph]

Darcy? is that you?


LOL, I swear that's the very 1st thing that came to my mind when I read the OP. :lolabove:

[Bert102176]

shut the F up Mitch damn

[mush69]

When we trade some players away in the next day or so, the song will change here & then everyone will come to grips with what's in front of us.

Well No trades, so where do we go from here? One way ticket to the AARP convention and free Metamucil for all the old folks left on the roster?